Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 HI all, Well, if you don't mind, I'd like to vent. I'm just so frustrated with the way the whole medical system is set up. First of all, has anyone noticed that all doctors do these days is give referrals? It's like a family practicioner doesn't really have to know anything, just how to refer you to another specialist that does. OK first vent out of the way. Now for the whopper. I have pain during sex, and it's gotten a lot better during the last 2 years since I've been off BC. Tampons are uncomfortable too. Basically it's like there's a ring of muscle inside the vagina about an inch in that doesn't want to stretch open. However this pain all goes away around ovulation. So - I think it's hormone related. Now a lot of you ladies have had succes with Estrace and topical hormone creams. I have done physical therapy for a couple of sessions, and am due back for a couple more. I think that has helped everything overall. But I can't ignore the fact that I have O pain during sex around ovulation and pain at a level of a 3 for the week before an dafter my period. I am 30 years old and ovulating most of the time. I would like to try to get a prescription for Estrace and just use it a little bit ot to see if it helps. So I went to a Reproductive Endocrinologist, who happened to be working at a fertility clinic. She basically referred me to Goldstein, who charges $1200 for a visit and doesn't take insurance (I live in the DC area) and said she's not educated on dealing with this issue and she couldn't help me. What frustrates me is this: I posed the question about getting a prescription for estrace, and she said that if I add estrogen at the "bad" times of the month, then I would actually be doing my body harm since it wouldn't have the ups and downs and surges it needs to induce ovulation. In other words increasing estrogen overall will actually act like birth control by raising levels and keeping them at a more steady level throughout the month. Then it occured to me that most of the people on this list are either menopausal or not trying to have babies, which I am neither. She also disagreed with Dr. Vliet's philosophy regarding how much estrogen you should have at the beginning of the cycle. Dr. Vliet says no less than 80 for the first seven days of the cycle, she says it should never go above 60. I was tested in Feb. and had 32. So she says all my hormone levels are perfectly normal, and especially the Estrogen. So... I'm screwed if I leave it the way it is (pain during the first week and last week of the cycle) And I'm screwed if I add estrogen (I'll lose the amount of surge needed to ovulate.) I mentioned that I noticed that I don't ovulate if I eat sugar and she said the best thing for me is to do a sugar busters diet and exercise to help the insulin levels and that could possibly help the dyspeurunia. (sp?) I thought that was interesting. So anyway that's my vent. I'm wondering if there is anyone else trying to have babies that is also on Estrace and what it has done to them. OK so thats all. Sorry for the long post Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 , I'm not menopausal AND I'm going to try and start a family next year...so we're in the same boat. I use estrace topically. Would you be open to that? It seems to have helped a lot. Lindsey - -- In VulvarDisorders , Gunn wrote: > > HI all, > Well, if you don't mind, I'd like to vent. I'm just so frustrated with the way the whole medical system is set up. First of all, has anyone noticed that all doctors do these days is give referrals? It's like a family practicioner doesn't really have to know anything, just how to refer you to another specialist that does. OK first vent out of the way. Now for the whopper. > I have pain during sex, and it's gotten a lot better during the last 2 years since I've been off BC. Tampons are uncomfortable too. Basically it's like there's a ring of muscle inside the vagina about an inch in that doesn't want to stretch open. However this pain all goes away around ovulation. So - I think it's hormone related. Now a lot of you ladies have had succes with Estrace and topical hormone creams. I have done physical therapy for a couple of sessions, and am due back for a couple more. I think that has helped everything overall. But I can't ignore the fact that I have O pain during sex around ovulation and pain at a level of a 3 for the week before an dafter my period. I am 30 years old and ovulating most of the time. I would like to try to get a prescription for Estrace and just use it a little bit ot to see if it helps. So I went to a Reproductive Endocrinologist, who happened to be working at a fertility clinic. She basically referred me to > Goldstein, who charges $1200 for a visit and doesn't take insurance (I live in the DC area) and said she's not educated on dealing with this issue and she couldn't help me. What frustrates me is this: > I posed the question about getting a prescription for estrace, and she said that if I add estrogen at the " bad " times of the month, then I would actually be doing my body harm since it wouldn't have the ups and downs and surges it needs to induce ovulation. In other words increasing estrogen overall will actually act like birth control by raising levels and keeping them at a more steady level throughout the month. Then it occured to me that most of the people on this list are either menopausal or not trying to have babies, which I am neither. She also disagreed with Dr. Vliet's philosophy regarding how much estrogen you should have at the beginning of the cycle. Dr. Vliet says no less than 80 for the first seven days of the cycle, she says it should never go above 60. I was tested in Feb. and had 32. So she says all my hormone levels are perfectly normal, and especially the Estrogen. So... > I'm screwed if I leave it the way it is (pain during the first week and last week of the cycle) > And I'm screwed if I add estrogen (I'll lose the amount of surge needed to ovulate.) > I mentioned that I noticed that I don't ovulate if I eat sugar and she said the best thing for me is to do a sugar busters diet and exercise to help the insulin levels and that could possibly help the dyspeurunia. (sp?) I thought that was interesting. > So anyway that's my vent. I'm wondering if there is anyone else trying to have babies that is also on Estrace and what it has done to them. > OK so thats all. Sorry for the long post > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 , I'm not menopausal AND I'm going to try and start a family next year...so we're in the same boat. I use estrace topically. Would you be open to that? It seems to have helped a lot. Lindsey - -- In VulvarDisorders , Gunn wrote: > > HI all, > Well, if you don't mind, I'd like to vent. I'm just so frustrated with the way the whole medical system is set up. First of all, has anyone noticed that all doctors do these days is give referrals? It's like a family practicioner doesn't really have to know anything, just how to refer you to another specialist that does. OK first vent out of the way. Now for the whopper. > I have pain during sex, and it's gotten a lot better during the last 2 years since I've been off BC. Tampons are uncomfortable too. Basically it's like there's a ring of muscle inside the vagina about an inch in that doesn't want to stretch open. However this pain all goes away around ovulation. So - I think it's hormone related. Now a lot of you ladies have had succes with Estrace and topical hormone creams. I have done physical therapy for a couple of sessions, and am due back for a couple more. I think that has helped everything overall. But I can't ignore the fact that I have O pain during sex around ovulation and pain at a level of a 3 for the week before an dafter my period. I am 30 years old and ovulating most of the time. I would like to try to get a prescription for Estrace and just use it a little bit ot to see if it helps. So I went to a Reproductive Endocrinologist, who happened to be working at a fertility clinic. She basically referred me to > Goldstein, who charges $1200 for a visit and doesn't take insurance (I live in the DC area) and said she's not educated on dealing with this issue and she couldn't help me. What frustrates me is this: > I posed the question about getting a prescription for estrace, and she said that if I add estrogen at the " bad " times of the month, then I would actually be doing my body harm since it wouldn't have the ups and downs and surges it needs to induce ovulation. In other words increasing estrogen overall will actually act like birth control by raising levels and keeping them at a more steady level throughout the month. Then it occured to me that most of the people on this list are either menopausal or not trying to have babies, which I am neither. She also disagreed with Dr. Vliet's philosophy regarding how much estrogen you should have at the beginning of the cycle. Dr. Vliet says no less than 80 for the first seven days of the cycle, she says it should never go above 60. I was tested in Feb. and had 32. So she says all my hormone levels are perfectly normal, and especially the Estrogen. So... > I'm screwed if I leave it the way it is (pain during the first week and last week of the cycle) > And I'm screwed if I add estrogen (I'll lose the amount of surge needed to ovulate.) > I mentioned that I noticed that I don't ovulate if I eat sugar and she said the best thing for me is to do a sugar busters diet and exercise to help the insulin levels and that could possibly help the dyspeurunia. (sp?) I thought that was interesting. > So anyway that's my vent. I'm wondering if there is anyone else trying to have babies that is also on Estrace and what it has done to them. > OK so thats all. Sorry for the long post > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Yes I'm open to estrace, the problem is getting a doctor to agree. What type of doctor did you go to to get that? Do you have any side effects? Has it affected your systemic levels? shannon > > > > HI all, > > Well, if you don't mind, I'd like to vent. I'm just so frustrated > with the way the whole medical system is set up. First of all, has > anyone noticed that all doctors do these days is give referrals? It's > like a family practicioner doesn't really have to know anything, just > how to refer you to another specialist that does. OK first vent out > of the way. Now for the whopper. > > I have pain during sex, and it's gotten a lot better during the > last 2 years since I've been off BC. Tampons are uncomfortable too. > Basically it's like there's a ring of muscle inside the vagina about > an inch in that doesn't want to stretch open. However this pain all > goes away around ovulation. So - I think it's hormone related. Now a > lot of you ladies have had succes with Estrace and topical hormone > creams. I have done physical therapy for a couple of sessions, and am > due back for a couple more. I think that has helped everything > overall. But I can't ignore the fact that I have O pain during sex > around ovulation and pain at a level of a 3 for the week before an > dafter my period. I am 30 years old and ovulating most of the time. I > would like to try to get a prescription for Estrace and just use it a > little bit ot to see if it helps. So I went to a Reproductive > Endocrinologist, who happened to be working at a fertility clinic. > She basically referred me to > > Goldstein, who charges $1200 for a visit and doesn't take > insurance (I live in the DC area) and said she's not educated on > dealing with this issue and she couldn't help me. What frustrates me > is this: > > I posed the question about getting a prescription for estrace, > and she said that if I add estrogen at the " bad " times of the month, > then I would actually be doing my body harm since it wouldn't have > the ups and downs and surges it needs to induce ovulation. In other > words increasing estrogen overall will actually act like birth > control by raising levels and keeping them at a more steady level > throughout the month. Then it occured to me that most of the people > on this list are either menopausal or not trying to have babies, > which I am neither. She also disagreed with Dr. Vliet's philosophy > regarding how much estrogen you should have at the beginning of the > cycle. Dr. Vliet says no less than 80 for the first seven days of the > cycle, she says it should never go above 60. I was tested in Feb. and > had 32. So she says all my hormone levels are perfectly normal, and > especially the Estrogen. So... > > I'm screwed if I leave it the way it is (pain during the first > week and last week of the cycle) > > And I'm screwed if I add estrogen (I'll lose the amount of surge > needed to ovulate.) > > I mentioned that I noticed that I don't ovulate if I eat sugar > and she said the best thing for me is to do a sugar busters diet and > exercise to help the insulin levels and that could possibly help the > dyspeurunia. (sp?) I thought that was interesting. > > So anyway that's my vent. I'm wondering if there is anyone else > trying to have babies that is also on Estrace and what it has done to > them. > > OK so thats all. Sorry for the long post > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get > listings, and more! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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