Re: Hydrocodone not bad drug~Crack is a bad drug ! ! !! Sorry but have to post on this Lori

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I am just getting caught up and sorting through replying and not. I just

can't help but respond to this contraversy of the pain meds. First if you think

about it ANY drug can be bad, as mentioned it one can depend on who's hands it

is put in, what else that person may have going on etc. Second we have to

remember what works for one may not work for another, so no one should be told a

narcotic is bad verses the other. Hydrocodone=Vicodin, and the more dangerous

part of the pill is the tylenol that is in it!, so how many take like I did

before going to this drug also for yrs handfulls of OTC tylenol, day and then go

into the tylenol pm to control pain, and then p.m hope for sleep. I took way to

much before CHOOSING to be put on this med, and I take it daily, have to and

that is the bottom line beliveable or not, it is just a fact, if I did not use

it I may as well be taken out back and put down like a lame horse. I am not

addicted, I am dependent, I have stopped it

and when I chose to go back on it was in much worse pain then I ever should of

put myself through. I REQUEST every other dr. visit to have my liver enzymes

checked, I am aware I can go into pancretitis, I know my kidneys can become

involved to damage, I drink more than required enough water just because I like

it, but hope it helps with doing some cleansing the high amt of tylenol in the

drug through my liver, if not what do I care. I have lived with this pain daily

raising 3 children from babies to a young woman and 2 young men, I was robbed

from caring for them the way I would of liked, playing, traveling etc. If I had

had this drug back then maybe I would of been a better, fun,more involved hands

on mom. Bottom line my belief is a drug seeker, addict, someond using this drug

and others to get high. I also used oxcycodon=percocet at one time for H.S

break through pain as vicodin keeps me awake, to much caffine, but stopped it

myself. I have been on every med out

there I think, before settling for the vicodin, and that is all I have done at

this point settled,as I am nowhere near out of pain when taking a pill. Good

Drugs Bad Drugs who cares as long as it is attempting to help us get through a

day. I am still searching for something that will give me 15 mins at this time

in my life of being able to say " I FEEL GOOD " , doesn't even have to be great.

Where I live I know the druggies out there are buying and using everything from

darvocet,vicodin, percocet, adderall, ridolin, morphine pills, licking fenytal

patches, even snorting Viagra!!! so really what is a good drug anymore? And

most of these scums up here are buying vicodin paying $8.00 a pill verses

percocet only willing to pay $4.00 and the percocet is the stronger narcotic, so

again no one should say that these narcotic's used correctly are bad. HECK

lipitor is more dangerous and I say a called a Bad drug more so than these, read

up on them. Talking the street value

again don't want anyone thinking this is my thing but when you work, or now

worked pushing pills for a living, Legally, out of a cart you know and hear what

is going on out there. This to is why I in the past was on caution before

giving into taking RX narcotic's, but now as I say would want to be out to

pasture to have to endure anymore feeling 100% pain as it consumes me with age.

Hope all is feeling no pain and understands the good and bad in everything...

Lighter Days Sharon

Honeycutt wrote:

I take hydrocodone as a last resort and rely on Darvon 65 yea the old fashion

Darvon 65 which is just as effective as Darvacet N-100 as the Napsolate

is a compoundind formula that enable the propoxyphen to bond w/acetaminophen and

at the same time napsulate limits the effectiveness of propoxyphene(nevermind

any MISpells) This bonding came about as the result of junkys mainlining the

propoxyphen in the capsules..FYI or TMI??

Meanwhile back @ the ranch my back is a little sore from my brief BIcycle ride

but also the barametric pressure is HI today so I'll never know which is the

greater factor.. . . .................. . . . GOD grant me the serenityto

accept the things I cannot change the courage to change the things I canand the

wisdom to know the difference. Amen ! ! !

To: Fibromyalgia_Support_Group@...: dodgeturbo99@...:

Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:11:14 -0700Subject: Re: : Please tell me what you

think/DRUGS!Hydrocodone not bad drug~ PCP=BAD DRUG ! ! !

,I am on Hydrocodone and have been for years, they have tried some of the

newer things on me that were worthless or I had a bad reaction. I don't think

that is on the streets as much as the oxycodone and oxycontin. which worked well

for me but all I wanted to do was sleep. I took my self off of oxycontin at

first I thought I made a mistake as the hydrocodone that iwent back to just

wan't cutting it. the withdrawl was hell. But I did it. It took me a month. But

I believe in hydrocodone even though it is not as effective as far as taking the

pain away completely. The way I explain it without hydrocodone I can't move so I

say I am like the tinman in OZ as soon as it kicks in I can walk, its llike my

can of oil . Its not a bad drug its the person taking it that can make it a bad

drug. so I understand where you are coming from. I am trying right now to get

something for breakthrough pain right now . But my rhuemie just upped the dose

to a 10/325. I will have towait and speak

with him in April when I have my next appointment. Its not the drugs that are

bad its how the person handles take taking them. Have a great night all!Lori H

ModeratorHydrocodone and IS NOT A BAD drug ! ! ! PCP is a bad drug GET FACTS and

don't pass judgement on usefull medications that have been around for a long

time ! ! ! This is what I know and what I think is a whole other realm!!!!. . .

...................... GOD grant me the serenityto accept the things I cannot

change the courage to change the things I canand the wisdom to know the

difference. Amen ! ! !To: Fibromyalgia_Support_Group@...:

angelzheart@...: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:54:00 -0700Subject: Re:

Re: Please tell me what you think/DRUGSHYDROCODONE, and VICADIN are baaaaaaaaaad

drugs..and they are verry popular on the streets' and druggies can SELL them for

PREMIUM. That is why thosedrugs are limited and one has to get an RX from their

physician each timethey need a

refill.....Hugs, Faithy -------Original Message-------From: AndersenDate:

3/14/2008 6:40:17 PMTo: Fibromyalgia_Support_Group@...: Re:

Re: Please tell me what you thinkI think that most doctors have never

experienced true pain. Maybe if theydid, they wouldn't be so stingy with the

pain meds./Mi Re: Please tell me what you thinksame with me, only i just

started asking for something for pain.i think the truth is the docs are getting

audited more everytime theywrite a script for a controlled substance, so i

really do feel andbeleive that they are now not even bothering toacknowledge

oursymptoms nor are they making the proper diagnoses so they won't haveto write

scripts and treat us, looking at us like we are nuts.i have been close to

writing a list of all my dxs, all my meds, andall my ongoing symptoms

getting worse, handing a copy to my docs andasking them to sign my copy that

they did receive the informationfrom me. this would be evidence, in a court of

law, of their ongoingnegligence, if needed.hang in there, it is really

hard,marg--- InFibromyalgia_Support_Group ,

" chainedtoabutterfly " wrote:>> I'm new to this group

and so far some of the things I'm readin from> other people I have experienced

also. What is it with thesedoctors?> They should read these group things to see

exactly how people with> Fybromyalgia feel and the terrible treatment allot of

us get.> I have experienced so many things and now see that all

thosesymptoms[Non-text portions of this message have

beenremoved]------------------------------------1. While it is wonderful to

share our experiences with everyone on the listas to what treatments do and

don't work for us, pls always check with yourdr. Some treatments are dangerous

when given along with other meds as

wellas to certain health conditions or just dangerous in general.2. If you are

in a difficult situation (doesn't matter what it is) pls don'tbe afraid to ask

for help. It is the first step to trying to make thatsituation better.3. To

unsubscribe the e-mail

is:Fibromyalgia_Support_Group-unsubscribe@.... Also, it is not

uncommon for more than one member to be feeling bad atthe same time when it

comes to flares and b/c of that potentially takesomething another member says

the wrong way. And that includes the thingsthat one member may find funny (even

if it's laughing at fibro itself) eventhough we who deal with illness whether

one such as fibro or multipleillnesses try to keep a sense of humor.5. Plslet's

be gentle with each other, and if you are having a bad day plslet us know so

that we can do our best to offer our support.Have a nice day everyone.Yahoo!

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