Re: Re: Confused about Sea Salt

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> Apparently it is the refined salt that causes people problems like

> water

> retention. Unrefined sea salt actually helps fluid pass through

> cells and so

>

It could be something else in the regular salt (aluminum, or

preally anything probably) that is out of the normal concentratoion

balance between the blood/cells with our bodies. Our bodies

naturally may try to equalize the concentrations of various minerals/

elements, so if there it's too high in the blood, it either takes the

element into the cells (which may very well be toxic), or pushes

water out to try to dilute the blood (water osmosis). I'm not sure

which of these processes would predominate, especially given that

some of the things found in salt are not found naturally in the body

at all or much.. Of course, I look at the trace element analysis on

sea salt, and a lot of those migh not be either - at least not on a

standard diet.

What I find interesting is the testimonials by people who say that

their blood pressure while on sea salt, has not gone up (as the

" powers that be " would have us believe), but actually LOWERS blood

pressure. I wonder why - I'd think this would be immensely important

to fingure out, although IT would shatter one of the establishments

most cherished dogmas - the the link between high sodium and high

blood pressure is neat and pat and ALWAYS right - just like the

cholesterol hypothesis. That's probably why it doesn't get done.

Although why the salt trade groups don't, who knows.

Does anyone know if there are there any restrictions on whether

" common salt " makers from ADDING things to their salt, and stil

calling it refined salt (or whatever they want to). If so, it would

seem in their best interst to try to figure out if one of the

hundreds of trace things in sea salt actually helpls blood pressure,

and then start adding it. Self-serving yes. Expensive, certainly.

Possibly dangerous to them as they'd essentially be saying that

element X is a drug and thus perhaps subject to regulation (unless

they could get it classified as a supplement) - probably. Useless

fromt he consumer's point of view (we can just buy sea salt), certainly.

But useful for science - I think so. But then, science

(especially medical) seems inclined to " think outside the box " only

very occasionally. Which I think is when REAL progress happens. Not

just little incremental (forward and backward) changes within the

current paradigms.

Jim

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>>Of course, I look at the trace element analysis on

sea salt, and a lot of those migh not be either - at least not on a

standard diet.<<

Actually unrefined sea salt IS the same composition as our intracellular fluid.

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MY BP was good to begin with, but went down even lower on Celtic SeaSalt.

>>> What I find interesting is the testimonials by people who say that their

blood pressure while on sea salt, has not gone up (as the " powers that be "

would have us believe), but actually LOWERS blood pressure.

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I found this on curezone:

http://curezone.com/foods/salt/Celtic_Sea_Salt_Analysis.asp

And this on another health site that seems to be the same info:

http://www.curzio.com/N/Celtic_Sea_Salt1.htm

Re: Re: Confused about Sea Salt

You are not mentioning TRACE minerals but main mineras. Sea salt is one

of the VERY best sources for TRACE minerals as thta is all that is

needed.. traces. Sorry but I have read this on too many docotr's sites

as well that it is the perfect blend of trace mineral and matches

intracellular fluid exactly. Supplementing TRACE minerals you cna easily

fgo too hig as only traces are needed and Celtic sea salt is 20% minerals.

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Trace minerals would include, zinc, copper, manganese, iodine, chromium,

vanadium, selenium, molybdenum, boron, silicon and germanium. You can easily

tell by their own analysis that Celtic Sea Salt is not a good source of trace

minerals.

From the Manufacturers Brochure:

You will notice that many elements are listed as " less than " amounts, such as

'Selenium: <0.0002%'. This means that the amount of Selenium present in our

salt is so small that it could not be detected by our chemist's equipment, which

can only detect that particular element in concentrations greater than 0.0002%.

Selenium is referred to as a trace element, meaning that only minute quantities

of the element are required for the human body.

Non-Destructive X-Ray Emission Analysis of Light Grey Celtic Sea Salt

Sodium 31.42

Bromine 0.0403

Promethium <0.0011

Magnesium 3.12

Rubidium <0.0007

Samarium <0.0010

Aluminum <0.05

Strontium 0.0050

Europium <0.0009

Silicon 0.27

Yttrium <0.0004

Gadolinium <0.0007

Phosphorous <0.0395

Zirconium <0.0007

Terbium <0.0013

Sulfur 1.17

Niobium <0.0006

Dysprosium <0.0015

Chlorine 62.89

Molybdenum <0.0007

Holmium <0.0006

Potassium 0.64

Technetium <0.0009

Erbium <0.0007

Calcium 0.41

Ruthenium <0.0013

Thulium <0.0006

Scandium <0.005

Rhodium <0.0016

Ytterbium <0.0005

Titanium <0.0015

Palladium <0.0019

Lutetium <0.0005

Vanadium <0.0006

Silver <0.0025

Hafnium <0.0004

Chromium <0.0004

Cadmium <0.0035

Tantalum <0.0004

Manganese <0.0003

Indium <0.0044

Tungsten <0.0004

Iron 0.0284

Tin <0.0059

Rhenium <0.0004

Cobalt <0.0002

Antimony <0.0074

Osmium <0.0004

Nickel <0.0001

Tellurium <0.0537

Iridium <0.0003

Copper <0.0001

Iodine <0.0002

Platinum <0.0004

Zinc <0.0001

Cesium <0.0059

Gold <0.0004

Gallium <0.0001

Barium <0.0048

Mercury <0.0004

Germanium <0.0001

Lanthanum <0.0034

Thallium <0.0004

Arsenic <0.0001

Cerium <0.0023

Lead <0.0004

Selenium <0.0002

Praseodymium <0.0017

Bismuth <0.0004

Neodymium <0.0014

Thorium <0.0007

Uranium <0.0009

MsSquarepants wrote: I

didn't read the article or her claims, but sea salt is a good source of

" trace " minerals. Not large quantities a person might need like in selenium.

Sea veggies are also a good source. As long as the salt is not processed and

refined but dried naturally, it retains the minerals. 70-80 trace minerals

on average. Do you have a source to dispute the trace mineral count? I would

be interested in reading it if so.

Cheri

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I read the article you referenced. What are her credentials? From what I

can gather, she is just a lay person as we all are. Cetlic Sea salt is NOT a

good source of trace minerals. Why would anyone purveying health information

glibly state that you can get all the selenium you need from Celtic Sea Salt

when, in actual fact you can't.

By admission of the makers of Celtic Sea Salt that it

doesn't contain even negligible amounts of any minerals except

sodium and chloride, to recommend Sea Salt as a reliable source for

minerals such as zinc, copper, manganese, iodine, chromium,

vanadium, selenium, molybdenum, boron, silicon and germanium is

just irresponsible.

Pamela

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Well I must have a good source oif minerals then other wise as I have

never needing anythign else.

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[Guest guest]

Hmm. I am not sure we aren't talking about different things. Is your point

that sea salt doesn't provide enough minerals required for the body when

larger quantities are needed? I totally agree with that.

But are you also saying the manufacturer's brochure amounts are not " trace "

amounts because they are too small? I haven't heard that, i.e. what the

barometer of trace minerals is but trace to me just means that...pretty

microscopic, lol.

Selenium for one is a mineral people need in more than trace amounts, so I

don't recommend sea salt to get your needed amount. Especially for how

depleted our soils are. I myself supplement. They salt may contain very

trace amounts but I don't think they claim that is ALL you need of certain

minerals. I certainly supplement several things.

I thought Val's point was that the makeup of the Celtic sea salt is the same

as the salt water in the human body. What I was asking for is there any

research that sea salt is not the same makeup as the cellular fluid (salt

water) in the human body? Because everything I have read is saying that it

is. Dr. Oz is always touting it too.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

Trace minerals would include, zinc, copper, manganese, iodine, chromium,

vanadium, selenium, molybdenum, boron, silicon and germanium. You can easily

tell by their own analysis that Celtic Sea Salt is not a good source of

trace minerals.

From the Manufacturers Brochure:

You will notice that many elements are listed as " less than " amounts, such

as 'Selenium: <0.0002%'. This means that the amount of Selenium present in

our salt is so small that it could not be detected by our chemist's

equipment, which can only detect that particular element in concentrations

greater than 0.0002%. Selenium is referred to as a trace element, meaning

that only minute quantities of the element are required for the human body.

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[Guest guest]

Yes, as I said, the Manufacturers Brochure showed how negligible the amounts of

trace minerals are in Celtic Sea Salt. As stated, it is a good source of the

minerals sodium and chloride and that is about it.

Pamela

MsSquarepants wrote:

Hmm. I am not sure we aren't talking about different things. Is your point

that sea salt doesn't provide enough minerals required for the body when

larger quantities are needed? I totally agree with that.

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Jim Witte wrote:

> From what I understand, Celtic Sea Salt is salt that is mined from

> the oceans *today*, not salt that is mined from the salt left over

> from the Jurassic seas (or whenever). Doesn't this mean it could

> have some small contamination from all the synthetic crap we've been

> throwing into the oceans (and soil, and air..) for the past 60 or so

> years?

>

One would certainly think so. I have read (but not verified because I

can't use it anyway) that most seaweeds today are full of mercury.

Supposedly the only seaweed product that is mercury free is Thorvin Kelp.

sol

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Kombu seems to chelate mercury from my body. The alginates have that

function. Most studies I have read say even if there is mercury it does not

get distributed in the body but picks up the excess your body has and helps

eliminate it along with any mercury already in the seaweed. In other words,

it does redistribute it.

The only cases I have seen of mercury increasing were using high doses of

kelp pills. I am wondering if it had more to do with processing and that

eliminated kelps benefits. I take mine in unprocessed form (kombu strips).

I will be trying capsule form of Kombu soon so I will let you know if my

mercury symptoms increase or decrease on it. Many on the mercury boards

swear it chelates it out of the body (seems to be my experience with the

kombu strips) so I see after using it.

The kombu I bought listed the contaminants in it and mercury and aluminum

were so low I didn't worry about it. I try to get the Japanese kind and not

the kind they get off the US Atlantic and Pacific coasts which are a lot

more contaminated.

A bigger source of mercury is if you live in a state that uses coal as the

electricity source. Coal burning plants are horrendous for mercury

emissions. Read about what is happening in China. I cannot even travel to

countries I would have loved to see because of all the pollution I cannot

risk being exposed to.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

One would certainly think so. I have read (but not verified because I

can't use it anyway) that most seaweeds today are full of mercury.

Supposedly the only seaweed product that is mercury free is Thorvin Kelp.

sol

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