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I'm on my second brand of good probiotics - started with Enzymedica's

and now on GOL Ultra - 30 billion/day. I'm still taking the Digest

Gold - 2-3 caps with meals and 1-2 with snacks. I know that you take

more but I frankly can't tell very well whether they help me or not

based on how I feel. Same goes with the probiotics. I was having a

better GI day today until about 45 minutes after a very simple lunch

of quinoa (soaked overnight and strained this time) and some roasted

chicken. With it I took 500mg of bromelain, one cap of HCL, and 2

caps of Digest Gold. The rumbling started after 45 minutes or so and

is continuing although now it feels like hunger too which is usually

how it happens. So, I'll eat some more and the cycle will probably

continue like that for the rest of the day until I go to bed with a

bloated stomach and gas. I had none of this after a breakfast of 2

egg whites, 3 pieces of bacon, a few bites of hash browns and a cup of

decaf, with the same digestive aids. I'm tempted to blame the quinoa

because I had a hard time with last time I made it, but I've had it

once this time after soaking it and had no trouble. I just don't know

how to do this.

BTW, I heard somewhere that the xymogen stuff was going prescription only.

>

> ..... just remember that sometimes even good stuff can cause

> issues for us. There were times that probiotics seemed to feed my

> dysbiosis causing additional issues.. This didn't make sense until I

> studied some. So I pulled back to bifidus only, cleared up symptoms

> then started to cycle the probiotics again. Some practitioners have

> you load at super high doses of probiotics, say 50-200 billion for a

> couple of day , then taper over the course of a few days to a normal

> dose, then off. At this point they wait and then start up another

> combination with another dosing schedule. The idea is that sometimes

> we have to go off probitics or switch them. For me I seem to get much

> more from them when I do this. And as for the digestive enzymes I

> even cycle these too. In fact, I change out most things periodically

> to keep from developing immune reactions to anything.

> Xymogen makes a product that did wonders for my gut. It's IgG 2000 DF.

>

> http://www.xymogen.com/xy_products.asp?code=000019

>

> Speeded my gut recovery up.

>

> -AG

>

> Begin forwarded message:

>

> > I'm assuming that I should keep on with the probiotics and

> > disgestive enzymes since they're supportive. Even without the vits

> > today my GI is still pretty fired up now during the day so it will

> > probably be worse tnite.

> >

> >

>

> Errors like straws upon the surface flow,

> Who would search for pearls must dive below.

>

> - Dryden

>

>

>

>

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After thinking of this more, it could be as I said before ongoing parasites.

Didn't you also say your tests showed a reaction to chicken?

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

I'm on my second brand of good probiotics - started with Enzymedica's

and now on GOL Ultra - 30 billion/day. I'm still taking the Digest

Gold - 2-3 caps with meals and 1-2 with snacks. I know that you take

more but I frankly can't tell very well whether they help me or not

based on how I feel. Same goes with the probiotics. I was having a

better GI day today until about 45 minutes after a very simple lunch

of quinoa (soaked overnight and strained this time) and some roasted

chicken. With it I took 500mg of bromelain, one cap of HCL, and 2

caps of Digest Gold. The rumbling started after 45 minutes or so and

is continuing although now it feels like hunger too which is usually

how it happens. So, I'll eat some more and the cycle will probably

continue like that for the rest of the day until I go to bed with a

bloated stomach and gas. I had none of this after a breakfast of 2

egg whites, 3 pieces of bacon, a few bites of hash browns and a cup of

decaf, with the same digestive aids. I'm tempted to blame the quinoa

because I had a hard time with last time I made it, but I've had it

once this time after soaking it and had no trouble. I just don't know

how to do this.

BTW, I heard somewhere that the xymogen stuff was going prescription only.

.

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Agree with Cheri, last year could not even sleep laying down at

night had to prop myself and still was miserable laying awake

in pain finally sleeping for about 20 to 30 minutes then laying for

an hour or more, then a little more sleep. Wanting to eat all day and

knowing it would make me sick. After starting humaworm in three weeks

all of this went away, so far it has not come back in February will

do another cleanse as it is best to do them twice a year.

Trustfully wish had done parasite cleanses years ago. Although did not

actually see anything my body feels tons better have not had

gas or pains or discomfort in 5 months which is totally awesome.

From: MsSquarepants

After thinking of this more, it could be as I said before ongoing parasites.

Didn't you also say your tests showed a reaction to chicken?

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

I'm on my second brand of good probiotics - started with Enzymedica's

and now on GOL Ultra - 30 billion/day. I'm still taking the Digest

Gold - 2-3 caps with meals and 1-2 with snacks. I know that you take

more but I frankly can't tell very well whether they help me or not

based on how I feel. Same goes with the probiotics. I was having a

better GI day today until about 45 minutes after a very simple lunch

of quinoa (soaked overnight and strained this time) and some roasted

chicken. With it I took 500mg of bromelain, one cap of HCL, and 2

caps of Digest Gold. The rumbling started after 45 minutes or so and

is continuing although now it feels like hunger too which is usually

how it happens. So, I'll eat some more and the cycle will probably

continue like that for the rest of the day until I go to bed with a

bloated stomach and gas.

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