Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Val, I already responded to on this but I have NO thyroid, therefore, does it not make sense I could still take armour and Cytomel together yet maybe I will end up lowering my armour and increasing my cytomel? Is the goal to have NO T4 or low T4? Debbie > > >>Treatment of this thyroid problem usually involves prescribing active T3 and Armour Thyroid,<< > > Nope I do not agree, There si WAY too much T4 in Armoru fo rti to be used in treating this. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 >>I already responded to on this but I have NO thyroid, therefore, does it not make sense I could still take armour and Cytomel together yet maybe I will end up lowering my armour and increasing my cytomel? Is the goal to have NO T4 or low T4?<< After a WHOLE lto odf digging and research I am not convinced we need T4 at all. It's OPNLY purpose I have found to date is to convert to T3. If you are taking ENOUGH T3 why do you need T4? The ONE thing in Armoru that you (and the rest of us too but you moreso) need is Calcitonin which is why when the RT3 problem is corrected I would suggest then going back on Armour and nbot staying on just T3. But even then you would need to take it sublingually to get th ebenefit of Calcitonin as it is destroyed by stomach acids. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I just copied that from a Reverse T3 dominance website and wanted to get opinions. Re: Reverse T3 treatment , Let me see if I can paraphrase this so I know I completely understand your post: A person with high RT3 should take both armour and T3. This will help the body reduce the production of T4 thus eventually reducing the RT3 (thyroxine resistence). After the RT3 has been sufficiently lowered, a person could go back to taking just armour? OK. This makes sense for someone who makes T4 with their thyroid. I have no thyroid. So would the same principle apply? I would just be lowering my T4 to ???? what level until my RT3 is suppressed? BTW... Is this from Dr. 's book that you mentioned to me the other day called " Adrenal Fatigue? " Debbie -- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , " Gikas " wrote: > > Reverse T3 Dominance Treatment > > Reverse T3 dominance treatment should be done under the care of a health practitioner who understands this condition. > Treatment of this thyroid problem usually involves prescribing active T3 and Armour Thyroid, a naturally derived thyroid extract. This reduces the symptoms of low thyroid function and will also slow TSH production. This in effect reduces the bodies own production of T4. > > With little or no T4 left in the system reverse T3 production eventually decreases. Further, the conversion of T4 into T3 will then no longer be inhibited by the reverse T3 allowing the appropriate activation of T4 into the active T3 form. > > It is important that T4 (thyroxine) medication is not used alone for this condition. Supplemental T4 may also convert to reverse T3, further driving this thyroid hormone imbalance. > > The contributing health factors should also be addressed, with treatment more effective when all aspects of your health are addressed. > > Treatment also includes getting plenty of rest, eliminating as much emotional stress as possible, performing moderate exercise for stress control and avoiding foods that damage the thyroid > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 If I have sufficient T3 and no (or low T4), will be TSH remain low or suppressed? > > >>I already responded to on this but I have NO thyroid, therefore, > does it not make sense I could still take armour and Cytomel together > yet maybe I will end up lowering my armour and increasing my cytomel? > Is the goal to have NO T4 or low T4?<< > > After a WHOLE lto odf digging and research I am not convinced we need T4 at all. It's OPNLY purpose I have found to date is to convert to T3. If you are taking ENOUGH T3 why do you need T4? The ONE thing in Armoru that you (and the rest of us too but you moreso) need is Calcitonin which is why when the RT3 problem is corrected I would suggest then going back on Armour and nbot staying on just T3. But even then you would need to take it sublingually to get th ebenefit of Calcitonin as it is destroyed by stomach acids. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Val, I'm going to rephrase this question as to get an answer I can better understand. Would you diagnose me as having: Hypothyroidism OR Reverse T3 dominance OR Are they one in the same? When I think of " hypothyroidism " I think of an underactive thyroid gland that's not producing enough hormones. Isn't that right? So I don't have that, thus can I be diagnosed as being hypothyroid? Re: Reverse T3 treatment >>I already responded to on this but I have NO thyroid, therefore, does it not make sense I could still take armour and Cytomel together yet maybe I will end up lowering my armour and increasing my cytomel? Is the goal to have NO T4 or low T4?<< After a WHOLE lto odf digging and research I am not convinced we need T4 at all. It's OPNLY purpose I have found to date is to convert to T3. If you are taking ENOUGH T3 why do you need T4? The ONE thing in Armoru that you (and the rest of us too but you moreso) need is Calcitonin which is why when the RT3 problem is corrected I would suggest then going back on Armour and nbot staying on just T3. But even then you would need to take it sublingually to get th ebenefit of Calcitonin as it is destroyed by stomach acids. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 What is the function of calcitonin? I am trying to figure out if some of my issues are due to being low in this. Cheri -----Original Message----- But even then you would need to take it sublingually to get th ebenefit of Calcitonin as it is destroyed by stomach acids. -- . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Good thing I didn't just follow your advice since you were just seeking opinions. I don't think I know enough to have an OPINION worth sharing until I see how I do for a longer period of time. I will share my labs when I get them (hopefully) Monday, and maybe that will give some idication why I am doing better adding Cytomel and not increasing my armour. Debbie > > > > Reverse T3 Dominance Treatment > > > > Reverse T3 dominance treatment should be done under the care of a > health practitioner who understands this condition. > > Treatment of this thyroid problem usually involves prescribing > active T3 and Armour Thyroid, a naturally derived thyroid extract. > This reduces the symptoms of low thyroid function and will also slow > TSH production. This in effect reduces the bodies own production of > T4. > > > > With little or no T4 left in the system reverse T3 production > eventually decreases. Further, the conversion of T4 into T3 will then > no longer be inhibited by the reverse T3 allowing the appropriate > activation of T4 into the active T3 form. > > > > It is important that T4 (thyroxine) medication is not used alone > for this condition. Supplemental T4 may also convert to reverse T3, > further driving this thyroid hormone imbalance. > > > > The contributing health factors should also be addressed, with > treatment more effective when all aspects of your health are > addressed. > > > > Treatment also includes getting plenty of rest, eliminating as much > emotional stress as possible, performing moderate exercise for stress > control and avoiding foods that damage the thyroid > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I know it's very important for your bones and I believe it's a pain inhibitor as well. I'm sure there are more functions though. RE: Reverse T3 treatment What is the function of calcitonin? I am trying to figure out if some of my issues are due to being low in this. Cheri -----Original Message----- But even then you would need to take it sublingually to get th ebenefit of Calcitonin as it is destroyed by stomach acids. -- . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 >>If I have sufficient T3 and no (or low T4), will be TSH remain low or suppressed? << YES. My last TSH was .015 and my T3 was 6.2 and T4 .026 this on 150mcg T3 only. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 >>What is the function of calcitonin? I am trying to figure out if some of my issues are due to being low in this.<< They haven't decided what it DOES do in humans.. LOL BUT in animals it's principle function is to keep calcium in the bones. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 >>Hypothyroidism OR Reverse T3 dominance OR Are they one in the same?<< Reverse T3 dominance causes hypothyroidism, and you have both. Hashi's causes hypothyroidism too. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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