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We took our son in for his 4-month checkup today and I broached the

subject of Plagiocephaly with his pediatrician. I had to point out

the indicators to her (flattened back of the head, pronounced eyebrow

on one side, one ear pushed forward). Her first response was, " Well,

we'll see how he looks on his first birthday. " My response was that

I've done a good deal of research on the topic and waiting until he

turns one was not a good plan, that his head is actively growing

right now and I want to act as quickly as possible should it be

determined he needs a band. She agreed to a set of x-rays and said

she'd send them to a pediatric neurosurgeon if necessary.

I'm wondering what proactive steps I should be taking with this

doctor to ensure she takes the issue seriously and my son gets

evaluated appropriately by an expert?

-Ray

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Hey there-

I am in Atlanta, and I just simply told my pediatrician I wanted to

go to the cranial remolding program at Children's Health Care of

Atlanta. My son has torticollis and his PT recommended we do this.

The pediatrician wrote the referral. Turns out our son is a candidate

for the STARband and we are picking it up this Tuesday. Our ped would

never have sent us on her own. Then, after much research, my husband

and I have decided that we want to see a pediatric neurosurgeon and

for insurance purposes- we must have a referral. I called the

pediatrician and told them I want to see the ped neuro and they wrote

the referral. I don't think, at least with my ped, that they want to

take the risk of " denying " me a referral to see a specialist. Could

this work with your ped??

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> We took our son in for his 4-month checkup today and I broached

the

> subject of Plagiocephaly with his pediatrician. I had to point

out

> the indicators to her (flattened back of the head, pronounced

eyebrow

> on one side, one ear pushed forward). Her first response

was, " Well,

> we'll see how he looks on his first birthday. " My response was

that

> I've done a good deal of research on the topic and waiting until

he

> turns one was not a good plan, that his head is actively growing

> right now and I want to act as quickly as possible should it be

> determined he needs a band. She agreed to a set of x-rays and

said

> she'd send them to a pediatric neurosurgeon if necessary.

>

> I'm wondering what proactive steps I should be taking with this

> doctor to ensure she takes the issue seriously and my son gets

> evaluated appropriately by an expert?

>

> -Ray

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Ray,

I understand your concern and I would certainly request a referral to

see an Orthoist.

My pediatrician brought up the flattening to me at my son't 4 month

visit(although I had mentioned it 2 months earlier at his 2 month

check up and he said his head looked fine then...). He gave me a

referral right away to Cranial Tech. I ended up requesting another

referral to Hanger (and ultimately ended up using them). I honestly

can't say if you need a referral to go to one of these places...since

we had one I didn't look into that. There was no charge at either

place for the evaluations.

You always hope that your pediatrian knows and does what is best for

your child but you are the one who knows your son better than anyone

and if you feel like there is an issue than I would push to get the

referral to Cranial Tech or Hanger, etc...

We got our son't helmet when he was a few days shy of 5 months and he

only had to wear it full time (23 hours a day) for 7 weeks. His

results have been fantastic. I think the earlier you recognize the

issue and work to correct it the better as their heads are growing so

quickly at this age like you mentioned.

My ped. didn't mention getting xrays so I am not sure about that.

I wouldn't think she should have a problem if you tell her that along

with the Xrays you do want to get him evaluated by Cranial Tech

Hanger or somewhere similar.

Good luck to you!!

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> We took our son in for his 4-month checkup today and I broached

the

> subject of Plagiocephaly with his pediatrician. I had to point

out

> the indicators to her (flattened back of the head, pronounced

eyebrow

> on one side, one ear pushed forward). Her first response

was, " Well,

> we'll see how he looks on his first birthday. " My response was

that

> I've done a good deal of research on the topic and waiting until

he

> turns one was not a good plan, that his head is actively growing

> right now and I want to act as quickly as possible should it be

> determined he needs a band. She agreed to a set of x-rays and

said

> she'd send them to a pediatric neurosurgeon if necessary.

>

> I'm wondering what proactive steps I should be taking with this

> doctor to ensure she takes the issue seriously and my son gets

> evaluated appropriately by an expert?

>

> -Ray

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Our ped wanted to take the wait and see approach, I finally just

contacted a neurologist myself. After speaking with him we went and

had the cat scan done. If I would of waited I don't think we would of

ever gotten the correction we had. As it was we were banded when Jack

was 6 months old. If your insurance lets you go with a referral I

would do it.

>

> We took our son in for his 4-month checkup today and I broached

the

> subject of Plagiocephaly with his pediatrician. I had to point

out

> the indicators to her (flattened back of the head, pronounced

eyebrow

> on one side, one ear pushed forward). Her first response

was, " Well,

> we'll see how he looks on his first birthday. " My response was

that

> I've done a good deal of research on the topic and waiting until

he

> turns one was not a good plan, that his head is actively growing

> right now and I want to act as quickly as possible should it be

> determined he needs a band. She agreed to a set of x-rays and

said

> she'd send them to a pediatric neurosurgeon if necessary.

>

> I'm wondering what proactive steps I should be taking with this

> doctor to ensure she takes the issue seriously and my son gets

> evaluated appropriately by an expert?

>

> -Ray

>

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I'm not sure how x-rays will dx Plagio - but they will show cranio, which is good to rule out. Ask to see a craniofacial dr or go to a band providerfor a consultation - Cranial Tech does them for free - and see if they think a band is need. Then take that info to your ped to get a script.

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Jen and Luli - 23 months

Left tort - Right Plagio - Hanger Band Grad - CA

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Pediatrician Visit

We took our son in for his 4-month checkup today and I broached the

subject of Plagiocephaly with his pediatrician. I had to point out

the indicators to her (flattened back of the head, pronounced eyebrow

on one side, one ear pushed forward). Her first response was, "Well,

we'll see how he looks on his first birthday." My response was that

I've done a good deal of research on the topic and waiting until he

turns one was not a good plan, that his head is actively growing

right now and I want to act as quickly as possible should it be

determined he needs a band. She agreed to a set of x-rays and said

she'd send them to a pediatric neurosurgeon if necessary.

I'm wondering what proactive steps I should be taking with this

doctor to ensure she takes the issue seriously and my son gets

evaluated appropriately by an expert?

-Ray

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I have never heard of X-rays detecting plagio but have heard of them

used to rule out craniosyntosis (early fusing of sutures). I went

to Cranial Tech. and had them fax over the measurements and that my

son would benefit from the band. Then I called my ped. to tell him

I really wanted to band my son and CT had faxed over info, my ped.

sent the prescription that day. CT says 4-6 months is the best time

to treat plagio. I would definitely NOT wait till a year. If you

have to, then I would switch pediatricians. Good luck.

> >

> > We took our son in for his 4-month checkup today and I broached

> the

> > subject of Plagiocephaly with his pediatrician. I had to point

> out

> > the indicators to her (flattened back of the head, pronounced

> eyebrow

> > on one side, one ear pushed forward). Her first response

> was, " Well,

> > we'll see how he looks on his first birthday. " My response was

> that

> > I've done a good deal of research on the topic and waiting until

> he

> > turns one was not a good plan, that his head is actively

growing

> > right now and I want to act as quickly as possible should it be

> > determined he needs a band. She agreed to a set of x-rays and

> said

> > she'd send them to a pediatric neurosurgeon if necessary.

> >

> > I'm wondering what proactive steps I should be taking with this

> > doctor to ensure she takes the issue seriously and my son gets

> > evaluated appropriately by an expert?

> >

> > -Ray

> >

>

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Hi Ray:

I had a

similar experience with my twin sons’ pediatrician.  At 4 months, when I

brought it up he said to wait until they were 6 months old and see if it had

corrected by itself (I regret listening to him and waiting two precious

months).  At 6 months it was not worse but it was definitely not improving so I

asked him to send my sons to CranialTech here in Miami to have them evaluated

(hopefully you could find one in your area; they are very good).   Fortunately,

he agreed and gave me the info; when you go to CranialTech the first time there

is no charge for the evaluation and you don’t need an insurance approval

at this time so at least you will have real numbers as far as the asymmetry of

the head of your daughter and the Ortho’s opinion.

In my

case it confirmed what I already knew.  Andres had 12mm right palgio

(considered moderate) and Pablo had 8mm left-plagio (mild).  The therapist told

me that both babies would definitely benefit from wearing the DocBand.  They

asked for a pedriatrician’s prescription and a letter stating “medical

necessity” to be submitted to NHP for approval.  The pediatrician was

very understanding at that point and gave me all I needed; within two days I

had the approval from our insurance with $500 co-pay for each baby and

CranialTech scheduled the appointment to take 3D digital images (new technology

being used instead of casting) for that same week.

My twins

are getting their band next Thursday and I can’t wait since I know that

the sooner the better.   So keep up with your research so you sound confident

when addressing the issue with her pediatrician as well as with the insurance

and don’t hesitate for a moment.  It is the best you can do for her NOW

not later.

Good

luck and keep us posted.

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Plagiocephaly [mailto:Plagiocephaly ] On Behalf Of Ray Fox

Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007

7:42 PM

Plagiocephaly

Subject: Pediatrician

Visit

We took

our son in for his 4-month checkup today and I broached the

subject of Plagiocephaly with his pediatrician. I had to point out

the indicators to her (flattened back of the head, pronounced eyebrow

on one side, one ear pushed forward). Her first response was, " Well,

we'll see how he looks on his first birthday. " My response was that

I've done a good deal of research on the topic and waiting until he

turns one was not a good plan, that his head is actively growing

right now and I want to act as quickly as possible should it be

determined he needs a band. She agreed to a set of x-rays and said

she'd send them to a pediatric neurosurgeon if necessary.

I'm wondering what proactive steps I should be taking with this

doctor to ensure she takes the issue seriously and my son gets

evaluated appropriately by an expert?

-Ray

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My ped referred us for xrays (3months) (showed no cranio) and

referred us to a neurosurgeon ( way too long of a wait for us...no

appt. until december) I actually set up a free consult with Hanger

in the next town over as well as with Cranial Tech while we waited

ot see the neurosurgeon. Both consults confirmed what we already

knew moderate plagio (12mm). My ped is going to write the script

for us and my daughter will receive the DOC band on Nov. 20th. We

are still keeping the appt. with the specialist, but she will be

5.5months when she receives the band and we just didn't want to

waist precious time! Our insurance requires documented 2+months of

repositioning, a script, a letter of medical necessity, and

measurements over 6mm. I did confirm with my ped that they had this

documented as of her 2month check up. Hope this helps...

nicole:)

- In Plagiocephaly , " " <veronica@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Ray:

>

>

>

> I had a similar experience with my twin sons' pediatrician. At 4

months, when I brought it up he said to wait until they were 6

months old and see if it had corrected by itself (I regret listening

to him and waiting two precious months). At 6 months it was not

worse but it was definitely not improving so I asked him to send my

sons to CranialTech here in Miami to have them evaluated (hopefully

you could find one in your area; they are very good). Fortunately,

he agreed and gave me the info; when you go to CranialTech the first

time there is no charge for the evaluation and you don't need an

insurance approval at this time so at least you will have real

numbers as far as the asymmetry of the head of your daughter and the

Ortho's opinion.

>

>

>

> In my case it confirmed what I already knew. Andres had 12mm

right palgio (considered moderate) and Pablo had 8mm left-plagio

(mild). The therapist told me that both babies would definitely

benefit from wearing the DocBand. They asked for a pedriatrician's

prescription and a letter stating " medical necessity " to be

submitted to NHP for approval. The pediatrician was very

understanding at that point and gave me all I needed; within two

days I had the approval from our insurance with $500 co-pay for each

baby and CranialTech scheduled the appointment to take 3D digital

images (new technology being used instead of casting) for that same

week.

>

>

>

> My twins are getting their band next Thursday and I can't wait

since I know that the sooner the better. So keep up with your

research so you sound confident when addressing the issue with her

pediatrician as well as with the insurance and don't hesitate for a

moment. It is the best you can do for her NOW not later.

>

>

>

> Good luck and keep us posted.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: Plagiocephaly

[mailto:Plagiocephaly ] On Behalf Of Ray Fox

> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 7:42 PM

> Plagiocephaly

> Subject: Pediatrician Visit

>

>

>

> We took our son in for his 4-month checkup today and I broached

the

> subject of Plagiocephaly with his pediatrician. I had to point out

> the indicators to her (flattened back of the head, pronounced

eyebrow

> on one side, one ear pushed forward). Her first response

was, " Well,

> we'll see how he looks on his first birthday. " My response was

that

> I've done a good deal of research on the topic and waiting until

he

> turns one was not a good plan, that his head is actively growing

> right now and I want to act as quickly as possible should it be

> determined he needs a band. She agreed to a set of x-rays and said

> she'd send them to a pediatric neurosurgeon if necessary.

>

> I'm wondering what proactive steps I should be taking with this

> doctor to ensure she takes the issue seriously and my son gets

> evaluated appropriately by an expert?

>

> -Ray

>

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Hi Ray,

Is there an ortho you can go to who will take measurements? Or get

your ped to recommend you to a neuro now or cranio facial

specialist.Once you have measurements it will be easier to decide if

you can wait and see, or need to take action now. Most people try and

band by 6 mo if they know it is needed. You have a little time, but

if you do need to band, start as soon as possible.

As for the xrays - they can rule out cranio, but aren't as reliable as

a CT scan. If she feels that is needed, you might just want to get the

scan instead. Also a specialist might be more knowledgeable about this

than your ped, so maybe try and see a specialist before doing xrays.

Cranio is rare, but should be ruled out. Our specialist ruled it out

based on a physical exam, so we didn't have a scan or xrays

-christine

sydney 22 mo starband grad

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> We took our son in for his 4-month checkup today and I broached the

> subject of Plagiocephaly with his pediatrician. I had to point out

> the indicators to her (flattened back of the head, pronounced eyebrow

> on one side, one ear pushed forward). Her first response was, " Well,

> we'll see how he looks on his first birthday. " My response was that

> I've done a good deal of research on the topic and waiting until he

> turns one was not a good plan, that his head is actively growing

> right now and I want to act as quickly as possible should it be

> determined he needs a band. She agreed to a set of x-rays and said

> she'd send them to a pediatric neurosurgeon if necessary.

>

> I'm wondering what proactive steps I should be taking with this

> doctor to ensure she takes the issue seriously and my son gets

> evaluated appropriately by an expert?

>

> -Ray

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Don't even try to prove anything. I had to deal with a ped like that,

and it's a waste of time. Just say that while respecting her opinion,

you would still like to ask for a referral to a specialist, and if she

refuses, insist. It takes nothing from her but a minute to write a

line on a piece of paper. No need for x-rays or anything, just take

the child straight to a pediatric neurosurgeon and have a specialist

examine the head, take the appropriate measurements and recommend

treatment.

But don't " buy " the " let's wait until the first birthday " . We waited

(I wish at that time I knew as much as I know now) and had to put our

child in a helmet anyway, but with much fewer chances for maximum

correction. I regret not having insisted when it was the right time.

Son banded at 15 months with moderate brachy

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> We took our son in for his 4-month checkup today and I broached the

> subject of Plagiocephaly with his pediatrician. I had to point out

> the indicators to her (flattened back of the head, pronounced eyebrow

> on one side, one ear pushed forward). Her first response was, " Well,

> we'll see how he looks on his first birthday. " My response was that

> I've done a good deal of research on the topic and waiting until he

> turns one was not a good plan, that his head is actively growing

> right now and I want to act as quickly as possible should it be

> determined he needs a band. She agreed to a set of x-rays and said

> she'd send them to a pediatric neurosurgeon if necessary.

>

> I'm wondering what proactive steps I should be taking with this

> doctor to ensure she takes the issue seriously and my son gets

> evaluated appropriately by an expert?

>

> -Ray

>

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Thanks for all the input here folks. I really appreciate it.

So I discovered that we have several Hanger facilities in my area,

assuming that this website is the Hanger that folks are referring to:

http://www.hanger.com

Can Hanger evaluate my son or do I need to consult a Pediatric

Neurosurgeon or Orthotist or other specialist? Will Hanger do an

evaluation without a prescription or referral from my Ped? I feel

like it's going to be a battle with my Pediatrician, unless I come up

with numbers for her myself.

-Ray

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Ray,

Yes, that is the Hanger I was referring to in my post...that is who

we used. The other big one is Cranial Tech. Hanger will do an

evaluation for you. We had a Certified Orthotist who worked with us

at Hanger.

I am not sure if you need the referral or not but I would just call

and ask. We used one in Charlotte, NC and the people were always

very helpful on the phone.

>

> Thanks for all the input here folks. I really appreciate it.

>

> So I discovered that we have several Hanger facilities in my area,

> assuming that this website is the Hanger that folks are referring

to:

> http://www.hanger.com

>

> Can Hanger evaluate my son or do I need to consult a Pediatric

> Neurosurgeon or Orthotist or other specialist? Will Hanger do an

> evaluation without a prescription or referral from my Ped? I feel

> like it's going to be a battle with my Pediatrician, unless I come

up

> with numbers for her myself.

>

> -Ray

>

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You will need to check with your Hanger facility as not all of them do the

bands. If they do bands, I would suspect that they would do an evaluation,

maybe free, maybe for a small charge. I don't know how Hanger works but I

know that CT (makers of the DocBand) and most STARband facilities will do

evaluations free or at a minimal cost but you still need a prescription from

a doctor to get the band. The doctor doesn't necessarily need to be a

specialist, I believe they will take them from your child's paediatrician.

Molly

California

Nicolas, 2, tort & plagio, STARband 4/24/06-9/12/06, Graduate!

, 4.5

, 8

Re: Pediatrician Visit

Thanks for all the input here folks. I really appreciate it.

So I discovered that we have several Hanger facilities in my area,

assuming that this website is the Hanger that folks are referring to:

http://www.hanger.com

Can Hanger evaluate my son or do I need to consult a Pediatric

Neurosurgeon or Orthotist or other specialist? Will Hanger do an

evaluation without a prescription or referral from my Ped? I feel

like it's going to be a battle with my Pediatrician, unless I come up

with numbers for her myself.

-Ray

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We had a free consult at Hanger. Some insurance companies require a specialist to write the script while others will take it from the pediatrician."Foley, Molly" <mafoley@...> wrote: You will need to check with your Hanger facility as not all of them do thebands. If they do bands, I would suspect that they would do an evaluation,maybe free, maybe for a small charge. I don't know how Hanger works but Iknow that CT (makers of the DocBand) and most STARband facilities will doevaluations free or at a minimal cost but you

still need a prescription froma doctor to get the band. The doctor doesn't necessarily need to be aspecialist, I believe they will take them from your child's paediatrician.MollyCaliforniaNicolas, 2, tort & plagio, STARband 4/24/06-9/12/06, Graduate!, 4.5, 8-----Original Message-----From: Plagiocephaly [mailto:Plagiocephaly ]On Behalf Of Ray FoxSent: 04 November 2007 11:01 AMPlagiocephaly Subject: Re: Pediatrician VisitThanks for all the input here folks. I really appreciate it.So I discovered that we have several Hanger facilities in my area, assuming that this website is the Hanger that folks are referring to:http://www.hanger.comCan Hanger evaluate my son or do I need to consult a Pediatric Neurosurgeon or Orthotist or other specialist? Will Hanger do an evaluation without a prescription or referral from my Ped? I feel like it's going to be a battle with my Pediatrician, unless I come up with numbers for her myself.-RayFor more plagio info

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Always get a second opinion, if you think there is something wrong then follow your heart. My daughter's ped refused to acknowledge a problem at her 4 mo check up. At that point I decided I needed a second opinion and it wasn't until she was 8 mos that she began treatment. I had to do a lot of running around to get to Cranial Tech. You should probably start at a place that does treatment they should be able to tell you right away. -Frances __________________________________________________

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I'm sure Hanger orthotists can evaluate your child just as well as a

specialist, but I personally would keep asking myself how interested

in prescribing a treatment they would be... probably more than a

person who won't financially benefit from it! I'd take the child to a

pediatric neurosurgeon first to get an objective opinion, then, in the

case of a helmet recommendation, I'd go to Hanger.

Again, I'd like to emphasize (I know some people will have missed my

point and will hurry to protest), I don't mean to say that the

orthotists at Hanger will just want to " sell " you the helmet no matter

what. I'm confident they are good specialists. But it will never harm

to ask a knowledgeable person on the side first.

>

> Thanks for all the input here folks. I really appreciate it.

>

> So I discovered that we have several Hanger facilities in my area,

> assuming that this website is the Hanger that folks are referring to:

> http://www.hanger.com

>

> Can Hanger evaluate my son or do I need to consult a Pediatric

> Neurosurgeon or Orthotist or other specialist? Will Hanger do an

> evaluation without a prescription or referral from my Ped? I feel

> like it's going to be a battle with my Pediatrician, unless I come up

> with numbers for her myself.

>

> -Ray

>

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And most certainly not for a vaccine that is not even mandatory yet!

Ingrid

I took my son for a sports physical last week, and near the end the Dr. offered the H1N1 vaccine. I politely declined, and she did not insist, but asked me to sign a waiver form that she has to "turn in". I asked her if this was neccessary, and she smiled and said yes. (that is NOT true, in Virginia I am NOT legally required to sign any waiver...) she left me in the room with the waiver forms, which I promptly folded and put in my pocket, smiled at the nurse on the way out......

My question, that I should have asked her , is...who is she supposed to turn these waiver forms over to? CDC? VAERS?

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And most certainly not for a vaccine that is not even mandatory yet!

Ingrid

I took my son for a sports physical last week, and near the end the Dr. offered the H1N1 vaccine. I politely declined, and she did not insist, but asked me to sign a waiver form that she has to "turn in". I asked her if this was neccessary, and she smiled and said yes. (that is NOT true, in Virginia I am NOT legally required to sign any waiver...) she left me in the room with the waiver forms, which I promptly folded and put in my pocket, smiled at the nurse on the way out......

My question, that I should have asked her , is...who is she supposed to turn these waiver forms over to? CDC? VAERS?

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> I took my son for a sports physical last week, and near the end the Dr.

> offered the H1N1 vaccine. I politely declined, and she did not insist, but

> asked me to sign a waiver form that she has to " turn in " . I asked her if

> this was neccessary, and she smiled and said yes. (that is NOT true, in

> Virginia I am NOT legally required to sign any waiver...) she left me in the

> room with the waiver forms, which I promptly folded and put in my pocket,

> smiled at the nurse on the way out......

>

> My question, that I should have asked her , is...who is she supposed to

> turn these waiver forms over to? CDC? VAERS?

>

The waiver goes to the health department so they can track the vaccination

status of your child. That is what the fine print and privacy notice our school

is posting says.

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>

> I took my son for a sports physical last week, and near the end the Dr.

> offered the H1N1 vaccine. I politely declined, and she did not insist, but

> asked me to sign a waiver form that she has to " turn in " . I asked her if

> this was neccessary, and she smiled and said yes. (that is NOT true, in

> Virginia I am NOT legally required to sign any waiver...) she left me in the

> room with the waiver forms, which I promptly folded and put in my pocket,

> smiled at the nurse on the way out......

>

> My question, that I should have asked her , is...who is she supposed to

> turn these waiver forms over to? CDC? VAERS?

>

The waiver goes to the health department so they can track the vaccination

status of your child. That is what the fine print and privacy notice our school

is posting says.

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Yeah, it's like signing your own death certificate.

And it is NOT mandatory!!!

Glad u didn't do it!

liora in beijing

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> > I took my son for a sports physical last week, and near the end the Dr.

> > offered the H1N1 vaccine. I politely declined, and she did not insist, but

> > asked me to sign a waiver form that she has to " turn in " . I asked her if

> > this was neccessary, and she smiled and said yes. (that is NOT true, in

> > Virginia I am NOT legally required to sign any waiver...) she left me in the

> > room with the waiver forms, which I promptly folded and put in my pocket,

> > smiled at the nurse on the way out......

> >

> > My question, that I should have asked her , is...who is she supposed to

> > turn these waiver forms over to? CDC? VAERS?

> >

>

> The waiver goes to the health department so they can track the vaccination

status of your child. That is what the fine print and privacy notice our school

is posting says.

>

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Yeah, it's like signing your own death certificate.

And it is NOT mandatory!!!

Glad u didn't do it!

liora in beijing

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> > I took my son for a sports physical last week, and near the end the Dr.

> > offered the H1N1 vaccine. I politely declined, and she did not insist, but

> > asked me to sign a waiver form that she has to " turn in " . I asked her if

> > this was neccessary, and she smiled and said yes. (that is NOT true, in

> > Virginia I am NOT legally required to sign any waiver...) she left me in the

> > room with the waiver forms, which I promptly folded and put in my pocket,

> > smiled at the nurse on the way out......

> >

> > My question, that I should have asked her , is...who is she supposed to

> > turn these waiver forms over to? CDC? VAERS?

> >

>

> The waiver goes to the health department so they can track the vaccination

status of your child. That is what the fine print and privacy notice our school

is posting says.

>

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or for legal intimidation

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> > I took my son for a sports physical last week, and near the end the Dr.

> > offered the H1N1 vaccine. I politely declined, and she did not insist, but

> > asked me to sign a waiver form that she has to " turn in " . I asked her if

> > this was neccessary, and she smiled and said yes. (that is NOT true, in

> > Virginia I am NOT legally required to sign any waiver...) she left me in the

> > room with the waiver forms, which I promptly folded and put in my pocket,

> > smiled at the nurse on the way out......

> >

> > My question, that I should have asked her , is...who is she supposed to

> > turn these waiver forms over to? CDC? VAERS?

> >

>

> The waiver goes to the health department so they can track the vaccination

status of your child. That is what the fine print and privacy notice our school

is posting says.

>

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or for legal intimidation

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> > I took my son for a sports physical last week, and near the end the Dr.

> > offered the H1N1 vaccine. I politely declined, and she did not insist, but

> > asked me to sign a waiver form that she has to " turn in " . I asked her if

> > this was neccessary, and she smiled and said yes. (that is NOT true, in

> > Virginia I am NOT legally required to sign any waiver...) she left me in the

> > room with the waiver forms, which I promptly folded and put in my pocket,

> > smiled at the nurse on the way out......

> >

> > My question, that I should have asked her , is...who is she supposed to

> > turn these waiver forms over to? CDC? VAERS?

> >

>

> The waiver goes to the health department so they can track the vaccination

status of your child. That is what the fine print and privacy notice our school

is posting says.

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but they sure try to make you sound like a child abuser if you don't sign it!

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> I took my son for a sports physical last week, and near the end the Dr.

> offered the H1N1 vaccine. I politely declined, and she did not insist, but

> asked me to sign a waiver form that she has to " turn in " . I asked her if

> this was neccessary, and she smiled and said yes. (that is NOT true, in

> Virginia I am NOT legally required to sign any waiver...) she left me in the

> room with the waiver forms, which I promptly folded and put in my pocket,

> smiled at the nurse on the way out......

>

> My question, that I should have asked her , is...who is she supposed to turn

> these waiver forms over to? CDC? VAERS?

>

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