Predinisolone definitely helping with sleep

[Guest guest]

Well, I've taken the Pediapred two nights in a row now and it's

definitely helping with sleep. I took 1ml the first night which is

equivalent to 4mg of HC and 1.25ml last night which is equivalent to

the 5mg of HC that I have been taking at bed-time. I took it at 9PM

the night before last and 9:30 last night b/c I wouldn't be going to

bed until later. Except for getting up to go to the bathroom once

last night, I pretty much slept through the night until 7AM and then

went back to sleep, dozing until 9AM when I made myself get up to eat

and take HC and Armour. The problem today is that I can't wake up.

This stuff is strong and not like HC! I didn't realize that it would

have such a sedating effect and I don't know that I understand why.

Based on yesterday and today, it also seems to be having an appetite

suppressing effect rather than an appetite stimulating effect like HC

which I didn't expect. I'm having to make myself eat.

To avoid the panic of yesterday, that I have to assume was low

cortisol from not trying to use cream all day b/c nothing else makes

sense, I'm back on the HC pills for the rest of my doses. I ended up

getting a doc to call in a script for fresh Armour to eliminate old

Armour as a cause of my problem too.

So, my dosing schedule for the HC is 10mg at 8AM, 10mg at 11:30, 7.5

mg at 3-3:30, 7.5mg at 6:30 and then the pred at around 8PM so that

maybe I'm not so whacked out in the AM. Does this sound OK?

Thanks,

and I'm back on the pills

>

> Yes 1 1/4 would equal 5MG HC as it is 4 times stronger. Medrol is the

> one thta is 5 times stronger.

[Guest guest]

I do like Cortaid 12 hour, but I also think maybe I absorb better than most

because my skin is so thin. I know I certainly seem to absorb toxins through

my skin pretty easily. I used to have such thick skin where nothing

bothered me and I wish I knew how to bring that back if possible.

Cheri

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. That seems to keep my gut happy and stretches out my pills. I

still seem to have to use about double the amount of cream vs. pills

though.

Maybe I should try the cortaid that Cheri says works so well for her.

Rie

.

[Guest guest]

Huh, I wouldn't have thought it would make it hard for you to wake up. Maybe

once your body gets into a certain level of sleep it just doesn't want to

get up. My brain won't wrap around what you were saying about the cream

though. Were you using it yesterday or not? Otherwise, the schedule looks

fine to me. Trial and error.

I got my doc to increase my HC to 20mg, and he called in another script. So

that is a step in the right direction. I would really like to be completely

honest with this guy but I don't think he would appreciate me increasing my

dose like I have. I'm stress dosing for a cold right now, so my temps are

pretty uselses even though I'm taking them. Right now I'm using the cream

along with the pills since that seems to work alright for me. I'm taking the

pills for my morning and noon doses and using the cream or a combo for my

evening doses. That seems to keep my gut happy and stretches out my pills. I

still seem to have to use about double the amount of cream vs. pills though.

Maybe I should try the cortaid that Cheri says works so well for her.

Rie

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy

enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright

> Well, I've taken the Pediapred two nights in a row now and it's

> definitely helping with sleep. I took 1ml the first night which is

> equivalent to 4mg of HC and 1.25ml last night which is equivalent to

> the 5mg of HC that I have been taking at bed-time. I took it at 9PM

> the night before last and 9:30 last night b/c I wouldn't be going to

> bed until later. Except for getting up to go to the bathroom once

> last night, I pretty much slept through the night until 7AM and then

> went back to sleep, dozing until 9AM when I made myself get up to eat

> and take HC and Armour. The problem today is that I can't wake up.

> This stuff is strong and not like HC! I didn't realize that it would

> have such a sedating effect and I don't know that I understand why.

> Based on yesterday and today, it also seems to be having an appetite

> suppressing effect rather than an appetite stimulating effect like HC

> which I didn't expect. I'm having to make myself eat.

>

> To avoid the panic of yesterday, that I have to assume was low

> cortisol from not trying to use cream all day b/c nothing else makes

> sense, I'm back on the HC pills for the rest of my doses. I ended up

> getting a doc to call in a script for fresh Armour to eliminate old

> Armour as a cause of my problem too.

>

> So, my dosing schedule for the HC is 10mg at 8AM, 10mg at 11:30, 7.5

> mg at 3-3:30, 7.5mg at 6:30 and then the pred at around 8PM so that

> maybe I'm not so whacked out in the AM. Does this sound OK?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> and I'm back on the pills

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I don't understand why I couldn't wake up, but the feeling persisted

until well after noon. It was like I had taken a narcotic sleeping

pill. I'm going to take it earlier tnite like Val originally said,

8PM, which will hopefully help establish a more normal day-time

rhythm. It's also almost certainly suppressing my appetite and making

me a little nauseous in the AM because ordinarily, on HC, I would have

been starving by 11AM but for these last two days I have had to make

myself eat lunch.

With re: to cream, I did use it yesterday at 8:30AM and at 11:30AM.

By the next dose time (3PM) I was freaking out so much that I switched

to the pills to make sure that I was getting some cortisol and the

panicky feeling did eventually subside, mostly. I still have this

hopeless, depressed feeling that has persisted though - I keep hearing

myself say in my head that I'm not going to make it through this

treatment. I've thought that many times of course, but I can't shake

it for these past two days so whatever is going on is definitely

majorly mood-affecting too. And my temps are down again today too and

I don't know what that means, but I can't blame it on bad Armour b/c

I'm using fresh stuff.

Combining the cream and the pills is what I want to do too to give the

gut a break but I seem to need more of the cream too - at least more

of this compounded cream. It seems like the generic Rite-Aid cream

that I have with all of the bad inactive ingredients is more effective

than this compounded cream. I'm leary of doubling down b/c the one

time that I did that is when I thyroid dumped and I thought that the

top of my head was going to come off. I think that I'm going to have

to stick with the pills until I figure out this prednisolone and just

continue to deal with the gut. At least I'll be sleeping.

I'm glad that you got your doc to increase your dose of HC. It sounds

like you are making progress with him.

-- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , " Cherie "

wrote:

>

> Huh, I wouldn't have thought it would make it hard for you to wake

up. Maybe

> once your body gets into a certain level of sleep it just doesn't

want to

> get up. My brain won't wrap around what you were saying about the cream

> though. Were you using it yesterday or not? Otherwise, the schedule

looks

> fine to me. Trial and error.

>

> I got my doc to increase my HC to 20mg, and he called in another

script. So

> that is a step in the right direction. I would really like to be

completely

> honest with this guy but I don't think he would appreciate me

increasing my

> dose like I have. I'm stress dosing for a cold right now, so my

temps are

> pretty uselses even though I'm taking them. Right now I'm using the

cream

> along with the pills since that seems to work alright for me. I'm

taking the

> pills for my morning and noon doses and using the cream or a combo

for my

> evening doses. That seems to keep my gut happy and stretches out my

pills. I

> still seem to have to use about double the amount of cream vs. pills

though.

> Maybe I should try the cortaid that Cheri says works so well for her.

>

> Rie

[Guest guest]

Now that you mention it, I have had this happen to me as well. If I get up

between 8-9 in the morning, then I'm just normal exhausted. If I get to

sleep in past 9 then I'm zombie woman. I almost literally can't wake up.

I've had to get my 6 yo to get in bed with me and tell her to pester me

until I get out of the bed or I would stay in there all day. So maybe it had

something to do with you sleeping past where you normally have been

sleeping. Even though you DO need the extra sleep. I've just learned that

unless someone else is here in the house, I have to go ahead and get out of

bed.

Funny how we are both trying to do the same thing for different reasons. :-)

When I just did the cream, my gut was NOT happy. So I try to space it out

until I get more HC.

He seems like a good doc. He called me (I think) from his cell Friday

afternoon around 5oclock. When I told him thank you (enthusiastically) he

kind of chuckled. I'm so glad that he listens and is willing to treat me on

this. I wish I could be completely honest about how much HC I'm taking right

now, but oh well. Maybe I'll be albe to go down on my dose before too long.

Not holding my breath though!

Rie

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy

enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright

> I don't understand why I couldn't wake up, but the feeling persisted

> until well after noon. It was like I had taken a narcotic sleeping

> pill.

> Combining the cream and the pills is what I want to do too to give the

> gut a break but I seem to need more of the cream too - at least more

> of this compounded cream. It seems like the generic Rite-Aid cream

> that I have with all of the bad inactive ingredients is more effective

> than this compounded cream. I'm leary of doubling down b/c the one

> time that I did that is when I thyroid dumped and I thought that the

> top of my head was going to come off. I think that I'm going to have

> to stick with the pills until I figure out this prednisolone and just

> continue to deal with the gut. At least I'll be sleeping.

>

> I'm glad that you got your doc to increase your dose of HC. It sounds

> like you are making progress with him.

>

>

>

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