adrenals and projesterone..

[Guest guest]

Two years ago, I had an estrogen level three times what it should have been,

and m progesterone was non existant (seriously, it was a 2!!). I had all the

symptoms of estrogine dominance so I started self treating with

progesterone cream. 21 days on, 7 days off. Period regular as clockwork.

All during this time I was also on 3 grains armour as well as 5 mg.

deltacortil. It made me feel much better but after a year I felt like I had

probably gotten my levels up and I discontinued the use of it. I stopped

having periods that same month, but I had this constant feeling like I

" needed " to start, you know how you feel when you are late, crabby, edgy,

then you start & it is kind of a release? THat is was I felt every month,

like I was gonna start any moment, but didnt. In January, I had all my

bloodwork as well as saliva testing. My vitamin levels were low, my ferritin

at 30 and potassaium mildly low. My estrogen and progesterone were both

right where they should be , so treating with progesterone had helped. Now

here is the bad part... My morning adrenals went from the bottom of the

range (13) to below it! 8, and I was treating with salt water & delta for a

year!!! I starting major iron supplementation and a week later the periods

I that had stopped abruptly came back. I had a normal period then two weeks

later started again and it is still going. Nothing heavy, but my body does

not seem to understand that the period is over! lol. I am wondering why I am

having periods like this, and mostly, I want to know what effect

progesterone cream has on adrenals. I feel like I want to get back on it, I

am 46 and in perimenopause, I know my estrogen goes up & down radically just

because I am 46, but I think the reason I am bleeded like this is low

progesterone. But, I am scared to take it for fear of making m adrenals

even worse~ I am now on 30 mg h/c assuming my prior dose was not high

enough.

I am attaching my most recent bloodwork and would apprecaite any of your

thoughts on my situation.

oh, I have also been experiencing a little fluid retention in my legs since

increasing to 30 mg, this is uncharactristic of me.

one last thing, can ou tell me what stage I am in. the little dot is in a

block that I am in does not have a number in it.

DATE: 11-2006

DATE: 01-5-2008

CORTISOL

CORTISOL

8:00am 0.37 range: 0.27-2.06 8:00am

8 depressed range: 13-24

12:00 0.21 range: 0.03-0.77 12:00

3 depressed range: 5-10

4:00pm 0.11 range 0.03-0.50 4:00pm

5 normal range 3-8

11:00pm <0.03 range 0.03-.0.50 11:00pm 1

normal range 1-4

Stage 4 adrenal exhaustion Stage 4

Adrenal Exhaustion

DHEA

DHEA

139 range 14-277 5

range 3-10

Cortisol Burden

Cortisol Burden:

376 range 35- 435 17

range 23-42

HGH (serum) 136 range 101-267 HGH did not

test

THYROID

THYROID

FT3 2.78 range 2.50-3.90 FT3

0.46 range 0.28-1.10

FT4 0.77 range 0.58-1.84 FT4

0.22 range 0.17-0.42

FTSH .86 range 0.34-5.90 FTSH 433

HIGH range 26-85

TPO Anti: 40.8 positive TPO

Anti: Negative (huh??)

Sex Hormones Sex

Hormones

DAY 14 OF CYCLE (mid phase) DAY 21 OF CYCLE

(luteal phase)

Estradiol 822 high range:62-384 Estradiol 13

range: 5-13

progesterone 0.8 low range: 7-18 Progesterone

579 range 65-500

Testosterone 38 range: 10-75 F

Testosterone 11 range 8-20

Thanks,

RE: pred v hc

>

>

> HC is bioidentical to the cortisol your body produces as opposed to

> prednisone. So when you take HC in doses similar to what your own body

> would

> produce, you are replicating what your body can't do right now. Plus,

> your

> body needs cortisol throughout the day, not just in the morning. If you

> just

> take

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't htink it was the progesterone tht dipped youre adrenals down,

but rather too ,low a dose of the Delta. Fo rme I saw onyl worse

symptoms until ai got to a high enough dose of adrenal support. My

adrenals became worse on 20mg thna they were when I went to 30G. In 30mg

I have see=n some pretty good improvements.

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[Guest guest]

Progesterone won't make your adrenals worse. The adrenals use it. If you

feel it helps you then add it back in. You can always go slowly and see how

you feel on it. You don't sound like you are at risk of overdosing in any

way.

You are in Stage 4 adrenal fatigue from what you wrote below. Cheri

-----Original Message-----

I feel like I want to get back on it, I am 46 and in perimenopause, I know

my estrogen goes up & down radically just because I am 46, but I think the

reason I am bleeded like this is low progesterone. But, I am scared to take

it for fear of making m adrenals even worse~ I am now on 30 mg h/c assuming

my prior dose was not high enough.

DATE: 01-5-2008

CORTISOL

8 depressed range: 13-24

3 depressed range: 5-10

5 normal range 3-8

normal range 1-4

Stage 4 Adrenal Exhaustion

DHEA

5 range 3-10

Cortisol Burden:

17 range 23-42

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