Re: still very tired on 30mg hc

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Most definitely.

>>> can being hypot make you feel very tired?

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, fatigue is one of the most common hypo symptoms! 30 mg is still

a very low dose. DH did not start " perking up " till he hit 90 mg. So

I'd say hang in there, at least you've started thyroid, and once you

ramp up a little further some of your energy and personality will come

back.

DH still has a ways to go, but says at least the bone-crushing fatigue

is gone. Now just a little tired.

Barb

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> Im now wondering if my fatigue maybe from something else other than

> adrenals.

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thanks. good to hear as maybe armour will help that more than the hc has

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> Most definitely.

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> >>> can being hypot make you feel very tired?

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hi there. actually its 30mg hc Im on. I havent started on the armour

yet. Im just trying to get my bp stablilized first before I start. my

temps have been stabilized for 8 out of the last 9 days but my morning

bp still falls when lying to standing which tells me I'd probably have

problems tolerating the armour. Im hoping I can start in a week or 2.

I so hope this helps with the tiredness. Ive just been so tired lately

that I cant even function socially anymore with co workers and such.

its crazy

> >

> > Im now wondering if my fatigue maybe from something else other than

> > adrenals.

>

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Whoops! Sorry, misread your last post. Thought you said 30 mg

Armour. You're being smart by not rushing to start Armour. Better

to wait an extra couple of weeks than crash and have to wait a month

to rebuild.

As you increase your HC (and sounds like you only need a little

more!), it uses up what little T3 your body has, and makes you even

MORE hypo, unfortunately. This was the hardest part of ramping up.

At this stage, DH got every symptom in the book: extreme fatigue,

severe depression, total lack of interest in anything. But once he

started the Armour, things picked up. And that's where my last

answer picks up.

Barb

" " wrote:

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> hi there. actually its 30mg hc Im on. I havent started on the

armour

> yet. Im just trying to get my bp stablilized first before I start.

my

> temps have been stabilized for 8 out of the last 9 days but my

morning

> bp still falls when lying to standing which tells me I'd probably

have

> problems tolerating the armour. Im hoping I can start in a week or

2.

> I so hope this helps with the tiredness. Ive just been so tired

lately

> that I cant even function socially anymore with co workers and

such.

> its crazy

>

>

> > >

> > > Im now wondering if my fatigue maybe from something else other

than

> > > adrenals.

> >

>

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thats interesting. my t3 was in the gutter before I even started the

hc so maybe thats why I seem to feel even more tired since starting

hc. Im glad dh is doing better. Hopefully I will as well once I get on

a good dose of armour

> > > >

> > > > Im now wondering if my fatigue maybe from something else other

> than

> > > > adrenals.

> > >

> >

>

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It could be some of both. If you aren't on your optimal dose of HC you can

still feel tired from adrenals. Or if something stresses you you use up your

reserves and bam. Withdrawing socaily can be from hypo thyroid as well as

adrenal. I think for adrenal it is phrased " inability to handle interactions

with others " . To really feel better, both thyroid and adrenals will have to

be addressed.

Cherie

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy

enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright

> Im now wondering if my fatigue maybe from something else other than

> adrenals. someone told me a very funny joke today at work and I could

> barely even force myself to smile. Im getting so sick of feeling like

> this. Ive become so antisocial which is the exact opposite of my

> normal personality. Im now doubting that the hc will eliminate my

> fatigue. can being hypot make you feel very tired? I'd appreciate

> opinions. I just want to find out what is causing this fatigue so I

> can get back to a normal life

>

>

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9:09 AM

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Also, you should have your ferratin and b-12 levels tested if you haven't.

They can both interfere with thyroid if they are low.

Rie

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy

enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright

> It could be some of both. If you aren't on your optimal dose of HC you can

> still feel tired from adrenals. Or if something stresses you you

> use up your

> reserves and bam. Withdrawing socaily can be from hypo thyroid as well as

> adrenal. I think for adrenal it is phrased " inability to handle

> interactions

> with others " . To really feel better, both thyroid and adrenals

> will have to

> be addressed.

>

> Cherie

>

> A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy

> enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright

>

>

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9:09 AM

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" jasrich " wrote:

> So add the Armour before bed instead of first thing under the theory

> that I'm using it up more overnight and I need more first thing in

the > AM? Where would the next increase go - 8AM?

Yes, that's how I'm doing it. Start the round with increasing the

bedtime first, then work your way around. Val said T3 peaks at

midnight, and I also found research that people who took their once-a-

day Synthroid at night felt better than those who took it in the

morning.

> I'm dosing HC 10 - 10 - 7.5 - 7.5 and then the 1ml of pred. I just

> couldn't keep up with the 6x dosing schedule - even with the alarm

> watch I'm having a hard time remembering to do stuff. Is this OK or

> should I front load it a little more now with 12.5 in the AM and 5

at

> 6:30PM for that fourth dose?

The whole idea of starting with 10 was to reduce any ACTH

suppression, but since you've moved to pred at bedtime, it probably

doesn't matter now if you start with 15, cause the pred covers you.

So I'd play with it. If the 12.5 gives you more energy, start with

that. Might also give you better rhythm.

Barb

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>I also found research that people who took their once-a-

> day Synthroid at night felt better than those who took it in the

> morning.

I'm one of them - a few months before I switched to Armour I had

changed my Synth from first thing in AM to bed-time and slept better

than I had in months. I was generally not feeling well on 137 of

Synth, but I was feeling as well as I could on that dose and sleeping

better.

>

> The whole idea of starting with 10 was to reduce any ACTH

> suppression, but since you've moved to pred at bedtime, it probably

> doesn't matter now if you start with 15, cause the pred covers you.

> So I'd play with it. If the 12.5 gives you more energy, start with

> that. Might also give you better rhythm.

I could definitely use more energy b/c, even with reducing the pred to

1ml, I had a hard time getting going until well after noon today. So

take that 2.5mg for the AM from the 6:30PM dose then - 12.5 - 10 - 7.5

- 5 and then 1ml of pred?

When your husband had the fatigue, apathy and depression did he also

have brain fog and did it all lift relatively quickly for him as you

moved him up on Armour?

Thanks Barb.

>

> Barb

>

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" jasrich " wrote:

> So take that 2.5mg for the AM from the 6:30PM dose then - 12.5 -

10 - 7.5 - 5 and then 1ml of pred?

Sounds good to me. You only find what works by trying different

combinations.

> When your husband had the fatigue, apathy and depression did he also

> have brain fog and did it all lift relatively quickly for him as you

> moved him up on Armour?

Yes he had brain fog, and there was even improvement when his temps

finally stabilized on Isocort and I gave him his first 1/8 grain!

About a week after an increase, it's like his body acclimates to the

dose and it becomes too low again. That's when I know to bump him

again. The minute his temps get close enough I raise him.

I can see why doctors are reluctant to follow this protocol. As a

patient, you're not expected to know all the stuff we know from

reading this forum. So you'd be constantly calling the doc with

questions. It's like 24/7 hand-holding to ramp someone up on both HC

and thyroid. But I feel he is making progress, so we soldier on.

*sigh*

Barb

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It's exactly the same for me - I feel a little better for a while and

then my body acclimates and it's not enough anymore. I've been stuck

on 2 grains for two weeks now b/c of my little adventure with vitamin

D. Best to DH.

> Yes he had brain fog, and there was even improvement when his temps

> finally stabilized on Isocort and I gave him his first 1/8 grain!

> About a week after an increase, it's like his body acclimates to the

> dose and it becomes too low again. That's when I know to bump him

> again. The minute his temps get close enough I raise him.