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Val I mentioned yesterday to you about feeling nervous and shaky. I

bowled my league last nite, stress dosed as you have suggested. I felt

alot weaker than I had the week before (of course had bad tooth). But

this morning felt tired, took my morning meds, 10mg HC and 30mg

Armour. Laid down on couch, pretty soon neck was hurting, legs were

bothering me. Felt weak when I got up, my arms feel heavy like lead,

just feel weak and shaky. Still got some headache.. Got any ideas of

what is going on..... You mentioned low cortisol and low maganesium

yesterday....

My meds are as follows:

HC...10-10-7.6-5

T3...12.5 twice daily now

Armour...30mg twice daily now.

My rT3 was very low, way below window on last bloodtest.

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I started the Armour and T3 together on Feb 13 when we found out that

the RT3 was low.

My temps are not low...they are the last few days:

98.4...98.7...98.4...98.5

My highest BP each day:

Feb 12....161/81 p 64

Feb 13....161/93 p 55 (at docs it was 180 over something)

Feb 14....180/86 p 60

Feb 15....161/98 p 56 (after bowling-172/81, waited 5 min 158/84)

Today....161/86 p 55 after 5 min 150/84

Doc had me take my BP in morning and evening on the 13th because of

being so high. What causes the diastolic to go up so much, mine use

to be low. And I notice when I wait 5 min the diastolic is a little

higher....

I am feeling better right now than I did this morning, but still

slight headache & neckache....

> How long have you been on the Armour? Time for a raise? Are your

temps

> low? BP?

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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Yes I am on BP med diltiazem 180 mgs, 2 times day now. I am started

back up my fish oil and garlic today. Take sea salt once a day. Milk

thistle for liver when I get it replaced, i'm out

> Are oyu on any BP meds? Better yet what supplements and other meds

are

> you on?

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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Is the BP med for BP only or chest pain too? Mayb eit is causing side

effects though from a quick search I CAN'T FIND ANY. i WOULD ALSO BE

TAKING cO q 10 AS it also helps heart function and BP. Magnesium also

helps lower BP. 400-600 mg daily .

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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Ok Val will take what you say. But at 4pm when I took my HC and

Armour, I started feeling weak and shaky inside some, it lasted for

awhile. What does this mean, HC or Armour? I will check later tonite

for your answer as I am going to see sisterinlaw in hospital with

pneumonia. Thanks for all your help

> Is the BP med for BP only or chest pain too? Mayb eit is causing side

> effects though from a quick search I CAN'T FIND ANY. i WOULD ALSO BE

> TAKING cO q 10 AS it also helps heart function and BP. Magnesium also

> helps lower BP. 400-600 mg daily .

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> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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If the shakiness starts 2+ hours after the HC dose then oyu need smaller

doses more often. It is lowering your ACTH too much and leaving you out

of cortisl too quickly. These stages are susually pretty quickly passed

through but taking the smaller doses more often help.

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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Okay, so what do you suggest I dose at right now. Actuallly it started

within maybe an hour after I took HC and Armour or a little passed.

And yes it passes after awhile but I still feel nervous inside, not

shaky. Thanks for your help, will start tomorrow after I hear from you

on the best way to do it. You are a lifesaver girl, luv you..God Bless

> If the shakiness starts 2+ hours after the HC dose then oyu need

smaller

> doses more often. It is lowering your ACTH too much and leaving you

out

> of cortisl too quickly. These stages are susually pretty quickly

passed

> through but taking the smaller doses more often help.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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>> But one thing I noticed that my BP has

dropped this afternoon to what it was when I got up this morning,

170/90 and then it went to 154/79 in just a few hours. Does that mean

it has cut some of my stress to my body and lowered BP???<<

Sure sounds liek it.

>>I noticed that my pulse is staying in the 58 to 52 since I have been on

my BP Diltizem 180 mgs twice a day....I read it can lower heart

rate..COULD THIS BE A PROBLEM????<<

Well 52 is quite low, and shows how truly hypo you are, btu I do nto think it is

dangerous, though you WILL feel weak wiht no more oxygen than that is pumping.

Perhaps a call to your doctor to ask about the very low pulse might be in order?

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> 10-10-7.5-5

>

> Then I would try 7.5 then in 2 hours 2.5 then in 2 hours 7.5 two

hours 2.5 then 5 then 2.5 then 2.5 , & 2.5 these small doses are

basically breaking oyur odsing up into closer intervals which should

allow your CTH TO COME UP A BIT S WELL AS CARRY OYU THORUGH THE DAY

BETTER.

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Val this is my third day on this dosage and I am on 30mg ARmour twice a

day, and 12.5 T3 twice a day. Tonite I was laying in bed doing my

bible study, got real exited about something I had read, my heart

jumped up into my throat as it always does, but this time it stayed

hurting and started beating real fast again. I grabbed my BP machine

and started monitoring. BP got high, highest heart rate was 150, then

kept dropping, took quite awhile to get comfortable. Is this my

thyroid again??? I had this one other time walking in the house and

that is what you came to the conclusion it was.

My temps are as follows starting with today:

98.6...98.4...98.4...98.5..98.5...98.4

I am trying to wean off of T3 to Armour....last nite I woke up about 2

to go to the bathroom, my head and neck were hurting, got quite bad by

3:30.....also I have had low heart rate the last 2 days, some 45-

49...doctor has taken me off my BP med for 24 hr starting tomorrow;

only took one today....I was on 180mg of dilteazem until Feb 13 she

upped it to twice a day because my BP had gone up quite a bit

What needs to be done if anything???UP T3 a little cause you said I had

to be on the Armour 2 weeks before I could add more of it...

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