for Val, not sure I can wait for test results, more night panic, heart pounding

[Guest guest]

Val, you've looked at my test results from a yr ago, and I've just

sent another saliva test off. Sorry this is long. Trying to cram it

all in one email hopefully it will take less of your time...

You suggested that I have ferritin and aldosterone tested and look at

hormone results when I get the test back in 4-6 weeks before trying

HC or whatever might be needed. The salt+C+b100 has made a huge

difference in how I feel. However, the horrible 3-5am heart

pounding, wired, wake like in a terror nightmare is happening

again.... I'm on Armour. About a week or so ago, increased from 90-

112mg and am taking it in 3 dscreasing amts sublingually as you

suggested. Still on Wellbutrin 150 SR am and pm, and Arbonne

progesterone cream 1/2-1 pump a day. NOT goign back on Dr. 's

adrenal rebuilders, but am still on the stress formula.. more like a

good vitamin but 10x as much $.

I'm probably drinking at least 1-2t of salt daily, in 1/4 t doses, as

I need it/start to lose energy/focus. Today, I was exhausted after

not sleeping, and my right eye just wouln't focus on the computer

screen. It's hard to be productive, and if I am in the office for 8

hours, then I'm no good for anything when I get home... last night I

was so tired, I felt drugged, and had a craving- which is NOT like me-

I made a chocolate cake at 11pm... talk about insane... and ate 2

servings. If I don't have a few glasses of wine and get in bed

before 11pm, then I get my second wind and just can't wind down... I

hate feeling this way... although the cake was low fat, low sugar,

and warm, moist and delicious... wish you and everyone had been here

for a midnight dessert... LOL.. sorry. Have to laugh or I'd scream.

I've been this way all my life, but the feeling wired at night is

getting worse, after getting better when I first started the salt and

stopped Dr. W Adrenal REbuilder.

My thyroid labs a month ago looked like I wasn't even taking the

Armour and doc said something about wondering if I was RT3. I've

asked for those results 3 x now, and still don't have them in my

hands, so I have an appt with her next Tues to talk about all of this

and to ask for the ferritin adn aldosterone tests you suggested- they

were almost $300 on line! I need insurance to pay if they will.

The saliva test will have all the hormones and cortisol.

What else can I do? I feel like a pest, but there has to be something

other than wait for 6 more weeks. This is my busiest time at work,

from now til June adn I'm having to be very, very careful to monitor

my stress and energy level.....and I'm travelling out of the country

for 10 days in March... feeling nervous. The last time I went on a 2

week trip, I crashed and couldn't get out of bed on the 7th

day...That was before any tests or Armour, etc...

Please help.....

thanks again, .

waking avg difference

2/8/2008 97.5 98.30 0

2/9/2008 97.9 97.87 0.43

2/10//08 97.1 98.00 -0.13

2/11/2008 97.8 97.37 0.63

2/12/2008 - 98.20 -0.83

2/13/2008 98.37 -0.17

2/14/2008 98.30 0.07

2/15/2008 saliva test

2/17/2008

results from a yr ago.

Result Name Normal Abnormal Limits units Lab

Sodium 138 135-145 mEq/L SLN

Potassium 5.1 3.5-5.3 mEq/L SLN

Chloride 101 96-112 mEq/L SLN

CO2 26 19-32 mEq/L SLN

Glucose 99 70-99 mg/dL SLN

BUN 23 6-23 mg/dL SLN

Creatinine 0.86 0.4-1.2 mg/dL SLN

Calcium 9.9 8.4-10.5 mg/dL SLN

TSH (test methodology is 3rd generation)

0.272 L 0.350-5.500 uIU/mL SLN

Free T4 0.84 L 0.89-1.80 ng/dL SLN

T3, Free 2.2 L 2.3-4.2 pg/mL SLN

Estradiol (saliva) .5 L 0.5-1.7 (optimal 1.3-1.7)

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately to get the proper testing done you need to wait until it

is done to start treatment or it will mean nothing. You could start some

estrogen. DHEA if you are low. I do not think either of those would mess

up cortisol or ACTH testing.

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Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

So, Val, I've mailed the Saliva test for cortisol levels, Dhea and

hormones. Now I need Aldosterone and ferritin, right? What is ACTH

(I mean, I read adrenocorticol... etc) but is it another test I'll

need?

Where can I read about doseage for DHEA? I'm on progesterone. Do I

need estrogen as well? I didn't tolerate it well last time....gained

25 lbs in 2 weeks... and felt like a pregnant cow... nothing like

being really pregnant... when I actually felt pretty good after the

nausea, but my daughter will be 32 tomorrow, so that was a long time

ago.

Thanks again...

**************

Re: for Val, not sure I can wait for test results,

more night panic, heart pounding

Unfortunately to get the proper testing done you need to wait until it

is done to start treatment or it will mean nothing. You could start

some

estrogen. DHEA if you are low. I do not think either of those would

mess

up cortisol or ACTH testing.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

*************

Val, you've looked at my test results from a yr ago, and I've just

sent another saliva test off. Sorry this is long. Trying to cram it

all in one email hopefully it will take less of your time...

You suggested that I have ferritin and aldosterone tested and look at

hormone results when I get the test back in 4-6 weeks before trying

HC or whatever might be needed. The salt+C+b100 has made a huge

difference in how I feel. However, the horrible 3-5am heart

pounding, wired, wake like in a terror nightmare is happening

again.... I'm on Armour. About a week or so ago, increased from 90-

112mg and am taking it in 3 dscreasing amts sublingually as you

suggested. Still on Wellbutrin 150 SR am and pm, and Arbonne

progesterone cream 1/2-1 pump a day. NOT goign back on Dr. 's

adrenal rebuilders, but am still on the stress formula.. more like a

good vitamin but 10x as much $.

I'm probably drinking at least 1-2t of salt daily, in 1/4 t doses, as

What else can I do? I feel like a pest, but there has to be something

other than wait for 6 more weeks. This is my busiest time at work,

from now til June adn I'm having to be very, very careful to monitor

my stress and energy level.....and I'm travelling out of the country

for 10 days in March... feeling nervous. The last time I went on a 2

week trip, I crashed and couldn't get out of bed on the 7th

day...That was before any tests or Armour, etc...

Please help.....

thanks again, .

waking avg difference

2/8/2008 97.5 98.30 0

2/9/2008 97.9 97.87 0.43

2/10//08 97.1 98.00 -0.13

2/11/2008 97.8 97.37 0.63

2/12/2008 - 98.20 -0.83

2/13/2008 98.37 -0.17

2/14/2008 98.30 0.07

2/15/2008 saliva test

2/17/2008

results from a yr ago.

Result Name Normal Abnormal Limits units Lab

Sodium 138 135-145 mEq/L SLN

Potassium 5.1 3.5-5.3 mEq/L SLN

Chloride 101 96-112 mEq/L SLN

CO2 26 19-32 mEq/L SLN

Glucose 99 70-99 mg/dL SLN

BUN 23 6-23 mg/dL SLN

Creatinine 0.86 0.4-1.2 mg/dL SLN

Calcium 9.9 8.4-10.5 mg/dL SLN

TSH (test methodology is 3rd generation)

0.272 L 0.350-5.500 uIU/mL SLN

Free T4 0.84 L 0.89-1.80 ng/dL SLN

T3, Free 2.2 L 2.3-4.2 pg/mL SLN

Estradiol (saliva) .5 L 0.5-1.7 (optimal 1.3-1.7)

>Unfortunately to get the proper testing done you need to wait until

it is done to start treatment or it will mean nothing. You could

start some estrogen. DHEA if you are low. I do not think either of

those would mess up cortisol or ACTH testing.

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

[Guest guest]

ACTH is the hormone produced by the pituitary gland that tells th

adrenals to make more cortisol. If t is low, then that can cause low

cortisl when there is nothign wrong with the adrenals. It is also not

something that is curable and means cortiosl replacement for life. If

ACTH is high or normal thnen it means low cortils is caused by the

adrenlas not able to make enough which may be curable wiht treatment.

Estrogen is not what goes hgh when you are PG, Progesterone is! If it

caused boating it was too much and susually the firt sogn of too much

estrogen is painful breasts, and then you need to either incr4ease

progesterine or lower the estrogwen deoending oin if both were low or

not. If estrogen is not low you do not need to take more to be abe to

take DHEA. Only in low estrogen women do they need to take it to

tolerate DHEA well.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/