Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 I wanted to ask about that. Getting closer to optimized on Armour helped resolve your hypogly and other food issues? I'm at 2 grains and doing better with GI lately, but mostly, I think, b/c I found that the enzymes I was taking were too strong and/or not agreeing with me. How did you know that you were improving - not hungry as often, better sleeping? > > Only after > > I lowered my thyroid from 1.5 grain to .5 grain did I develop severe > > hypoglycemia and other low cortisol symptoms. So it was like my > > adrenals down-regulated themselves to match my low thyroid levels. > > As I brought my thyroid dosage slowly back up, the hypoglycemia went > > away, like my adrenals were coming back up. > > > Barb, > Hi, it sounds to me like you caught the lowering cortisol in time to > fix the adrenal stress quickly. Good for you! > sol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Yes, to both. I practiced strict Rosedale/Bernstein high-fat, low- carb from summer until Thanksgiving. I think doing that helped heal whatever was broken. I traditionally bring the pecan pie and since I made it, certainly wanted to taste it. So I did, and didn't spazz out with a hypoglycemic attack after dinner. Course I'd taken a chromium and gymnema sylvestre before dinner, so that helped too. So after Thanksgiving, I really eased up, testing the waters and found I could eat bananas again, I could go 4-5 hours between meals, and I could sleep through the night. Before, it was like we were having a party in our kitchen every morning about 2 a.m. and 5 a.m. when DH and I were both pretty bad. I'll even confess to having some Girl Scout Thin Mints last week, my annual weakness. That would've given me an attack last year. Barb " jasrich " wrote: > How did you know that you were improving - not hungry as often, > better sleeping? > > > > > > > > Only after > > > I lowered my thyroid from 1.5 grain to .5 grain did I develop severe > > > hypoglycemia and other low cortisol symptoms. So it was like my > > > adrenals down-regulated themselves to match my low thyroid levels. > > > As I brought my thyroid dosage slowly back up, the hypoglycemia went > > > away, like my adrenals were coming back up. > > > > > Barb, > > Hi, it sounds to me like you caught the lowering cortisol in time to > > fix the adrenal stress quickly. Good for you! > > sol > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 I've been taking the 200 of chromium with meals that have a good amount of bad carbs in them like potatoes, rice, big bowl of quinoa, etc. You take it before you eat. How long or just right before? Do you think that the gymnema sylvestre is helping a lot? I moved my dose of pred back to 8PM last night and kept the bed-time dose the same although I used a little more than the .21g of cream. I woke up at 3AM as usual, fell back to sleep immediately and then woke up at 5:30 sweating again. This time I didn't get up to eat or take HC and I sort of fell back to sleep, dozing and waking every 20 minutes or so until I had to get up at 7:15 - late. I'm not feeling particularly rested, but a little better than yesterday. I don't know whether not being able to get up in the mornings is because the pred is messing up my morning rise of cortisol, or I'm just not refreshed from bad sleep and/or the continuing effects of my Klonopin although Klono never narced me out so bad before. I have lost 17 pounds so maybe the same dose of Klono is hitting me harder. Whatever the case, I don't know what else to make of waking up sweating like that other than that something wore off. I'm also pretty sure that I can feel the pred kick in within an hour of taking it with stomach upset and then feeling calm and tired like I just took 20mg of HC. I'm tempted to move the dose even later and to drop the bed-time dose of HC one night. Or, and I need advice from Val on this, try dropping the pred altogether for a few nights b/c I don't think that it has helped me much and if I need to try florinef I'll be trying to balanace three steroids and Armour I'm barely up to dealing with two. What do you think? > > Yes, to both. I practiced strict Rosedale/Bernstein high-fat, low- > carb from summer until Thanksgiving. I think doing that helped heal > whatever was broken. I traditionally bring the pecan pie and since I > made it, certainly wanted to taste it. So I did, and didn't spazz > out with a hypoglycemic attack after dinner. Course I'd taken a > chromium and gymnema sylvestre before dinner, so that helped too. So > after Thanksgiving, I really eased up, testing the waters and found I > could eat bananas again, I could go 4-5 hours between meals, and I > could sleep through the night. Before, it was like we were having a > party in our kitchen every morning about 2 a.m. and 5 a.m. when DH > and I were both pretty bad. I'll even confess to having some Girl > Scout Thin Mints last week, my annual weakness. That would've given > me an attack last year. > > Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 " jasrich " wrote: > > I've been taking the 200 of chromium with meals that have a good > amount of bad carbs in them like potatoes, rice, big bowl of quinoa, > etc. You take it before you eat. How long or just right before? Do > you think that the gymnema sylvestre is helping a lot? I take the chromium about 5 minutes before. When everything's about done cooking and I start setting the table. There is no way to know if gymnema helps or is placebo. I have no labs to go by; my healing could be from chromium, from following Rosedale eating guidelines, or just having raised thyroid. But I figured it couldn't hurt, so took it. You, on the other hand, may get MORE stomach upset from it. My current bottle will run out next month and I plan on discontinuing then. I will then have taken 1/day for 6 months. It's supposed to help regenerate beta cells in your pancreas, and I'm hoping if there was damage, it's healed by now. I will take chromium for life, since it's cheap, and Dr. Shames recommended chromium and B5 for life if you have adrenal/thyroid problems. I don't know > whether not being able to get up in the mornings is because the pred > is messing up my morning rise of cortisol My theory is the above. Why would it rise when there's still so much there? Seems like it's put your body into night-owl syndrome. Someone who stays up till 3 a.m., then their cortisol finally lowers and they get tired, they sleep all morning, and their cortisol finally rises around noon. That's why I suggested cutting the pred dose and taking it later. > Whatever the case, I don't know what else to make of waking up > sweating like that other than that something wore off. I'm also > pretty sure that I can feel the pred kick in within an hour of taking > it with stomach upset and then feeling calm and tired like I just took > 20mg of HC. I'm tempted to move the dose even later and to drop the > bed-time dose of HC one night. This sounds like you should only take it an hour before. But isn't that how you initially started dosing? With only pred and no HC? Then you'll have come full circle and STILL have sleep problems! So then you're right, you might just drop it altogether. I'd try playing with the time and dose at night before dropping it though, just to give it a fair shot. After that, you can say you tried everything. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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