Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Back in January, I posted my saliva results here and was told by Val that I " could also use progesterone from the looks of things and might benefit from testosterone if youhave a docotr that will prescribe it for you. " Well, I just saw my nurse practitioner last Thursday and she prescribed testosterone for me. I got a little leary of starting it, though, because of some of the possible side effects; so I bought some progesterone cream and started using it Friday. I am experiencing a return of some hypoT symptoms that were pretty much gone (stiff, sore muscles and sore feet mostly) and was reminded on a different forum that estrogen binds thyroid so if the progesterone I am using is converting to estrogen, that could by mucking up things as I am trying to switch from levo (200mcg, now at 100mcg) to Armour (started at 1 grain, now at 1-3/4 grains). I know there is a suggested protocol for treating issues and that treating the sex hormones are further down the list than the thyroid, but being that I am in surgical menopause v. natural menopause, my sex hormones are a bit of a priority for me....not ABOVE thryoid, but maybe EQUAL TO. I am at a loss as to what to do...I was thinking that I should give the progesterone cream at least 4-6 weeks to have a clear indication as to its efficacy, but now that I am miserably achy and stiff, I don't really know WHAT to do!! Should I stop the P cream? Should I add the testosterone cream my np prescribed? Should I do the T cream only? Should I just stop both sex hrts (I refuse to stop my estrogen patch...it is the only thing that can quell the nasty hot flashes I was getting!!)? Could someone please help me with some ideas?!?!? Here are my saliva results again, just in case you need them to be able to answer fully: Free Cortisol Rhythm 7:00-8:00am 26 Elevated 13-24nM 11:00-Noon 6 Normal 5-10nM 4:00-5:00pm 4 Normal 3-8nM 11:00-Midnight 2 Normal 1-4nM Cortisol Burden 38 23-42 DHEA 7 Normal Adults (M/F):3-10ng/ml fTSH 60 Normal fT4 0.17 Normal fT3 0.49 Normal TPO Neg Normal:Negative Estradiol 10 HRT Target Range:5-13 (I use the Vivelle dot) Progesterone 77 HRT Target Range:100-300 Free Testosterone 7 Borderline Low Normal:8-20 Sorry this is so long...I really am at a loss! K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Hi, Do you have the ranges for the thyroid levels? I would think that you would need to get your thyroid levels to an optimal range first and then see where your sex hormones are at that point. Sometimes getting your adrenals and thyroid levels up to par will level the other hormones out. However, if Val said you would benefit from the ohter hormones, then I would follow her advice. She's in bed right now, but I'm sure she'll respond tomorrow! Rie A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1285 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 5:50 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 >>Do you have the ranges for the thyroid levels?<< Sorry, I forgot when I copied and pasted my results that I didn't have the thyroid ranges in there... fTSH 60 Normal (26-85nIU/ml) fT4 0.17 Normal (0.17-0.42ng/dl) fT3 0.49 Normal (0.28-1.10pg/ml) TPO Neg Normal:Negative ** **I checked with my nurse practitioner and I have had at least one antibody test come back positive for antibodies, so I guess that puts me in the Hashi's category, for what it's worth. I should be at 3 grains Armour around March 21. Are most people close to optimal at 3? Looking at a conversion chart, 200mg levo (what I was on) is roughly equivalent to 3 grains. If I wasn't doing well at 200mcg, it would stand to reason that I will need more than 3 grains to be optimal, no? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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