Guest guest Posted May 12, 1999 Report Share Posted May 12, 1999 Janet: I would be interested in having my port moved under muscle too! I am probably going to have the port scar revised because of keloid formation and it would not be that much more to move it. Does anybody else know about this? I wonder if I can get it done in USA since bands and ports aren't legal. Lori: I just read two articles on genetic studies. One was twins (from Stockholm I think) raised apart - eating different diets - low fat vs. high fat -- guess what - both twins weighed the same. The authors concluded that weight is determined more by genetics than diet. The other had to do with exercise -- one group followed a diet and the other group followed the same diet with exercise -- guess what - they both lost the same. These authors concluded that exercise doesn't help that much. Sorry I don't have the references. I sent them to Dr. Fox. He always finds this stuff interesting. Sharon: don't do it! stick to the liquids. You can have " full liquids " like creamy soups and pudding but no real big solids. You take a chance on pushing your band out of place if you cram a wad of food through it before the stitches heal. Try some clam chowder with the chunks strained out. Run a banana through the blender with some orange juice. Take little bites and sips. Chew everything really well. Borrow a plastic or rubber toy to chew on from one of your kids. Remember -- it is only temporary. You can do it. Distract yourself with activities that are incompatible with eating like gardening, knitting, being handcuffed to the bed. Call me if you want to. Try popsicles and ice. Brush your teeth alot. I can think of more. These are all tricks from my dieting days. Sniff stuff. There is no such thing as cheating. You just had a " diversion " from the plan. Hang in there. Call Fox and get some appetite suppressants if you are truly hungry. is right, there is no way to get to the other side except by going through it. We all know how tough it can be. It does get easier with time for most people. : down 18 already. It is disgusting the way men lose weight so fast. Congratulations. Stopping by burger king will slow that down you know. Yes, you can probably get another doctor to adjust your band. Dr. Fox might be willing to talk him/her through it on the phone (although maybe not since it would mean less revenue for him). Proper follow-up is essential to getting a good result. This is so exciting to see all of you stepping onto the path of weight loss. Finally: in defense of Mexico. I didn't have any bad experiences. The care was just fine. It is not " third world " (cause I have been there too and that is bad). Of course it is scary and different - especially if you have never had surgery before, if you have not traveled much, if you have to go alone. Of course there may be some miscommunication and things may not go perfectly but believe me that can happen right here in the USA too. I would prefer to have my insurance pay for an AGB right here in my home town but that wasn't an option. Mexico was an acceptable alternative. And what really matters is the end result isn't it? So here's hoping that you all have a beautiful end result that cancels out the pain, fear and discomforts of going far away from home for surgery. My only complaint is the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 1999 Report Share Posted May 12, 1999 Hi Jessie....can you explain KELOID,,,as I have been told that my 6 inch long and 1/2 inch wide scare has KELOID ( its a really horrible scar and it bothers me a lot,,,,as in sore )...thanks.... Jessie H. Ahroni wrote: > > > > Janet: I would be interested in having my port moved under muscle too! > I am probably going to have the port scar revised because of keloid > formation and it would not be that much more to move it. Does anybody > else know about this? I wonder if I can get it done in USA since bands > and ports aren't legal. > > Lori: I just read two articles on genetic studies. One was twins (from > Stockholm I think) raised apart - eating different diets - low fat vs. > high fat -- guess what - both twins weighed the same. The authors > concluded that weight is determined more by genetics than diet. The > other had to do with exercise -- one group followed a diet and the other > group followed the same diet with exercise -- guess what - they both > lost the same. These authors concluded that exercise doesn't help that > much. Sorry I don't have the references. I sent them to Dr. Fox. He > always finds this stuff interesting. > > Sharon: don't do it! stick to the liquids. You can have " full > liquids " like creamy soups and pudding but no real big solids. You take > a chance on pushing your band out of place if you cram a wad of food > through it before the stitches heal. Try some clam chowder with the > chunks strained out. Run a banana through the blender with some orange > juice. Take little bites and sips. Chew everything really well. > Borrow a plastic or rubber toy to chew on from one of your kids. > Remember -- it is only temporary. You can do it. Distract yourself > with activities that are incompatible with eating like gardening, > knitting, being handcuffed to the bed. Call me if you want to. Try > popsicles and ice. Brush your teeth alot. I can think of more. These > are all tricks from my dieting days. Sniff stuff. > > There is no such thing as cheating. You just had a " diversion " from the > plan. Hang in there. > Call Fox and get some appetite suppressants if you are truly hungry. > > is right, there is no way to get to the other side except by going > through it. We all know how tough it can be. It does get easier with > time for most people. > > : down 18 already. It is disgusting the way men lose weight so > fast. Congratulations. Stopping by burger king will slow that down you > know. > > Yes, you can probably get another doctor to adjust your band. Dr. Fox > might be willing to talk him/her through it on the phone (although maybe > not since it would mean less revenue for him). Proper follow-up is > essential to getting a good result. > > This is so exciting to see all of you stepping onto the path of weight > loss. > > Finally: in defense of Mexico. I didn't have any bad experiences. The > care was just fine. It is not " third world " (cause I have been there > too and that is bad). Of course it is scary and different - especially > if you have never had surgery before, if you have not traveled much, if > you have to go alone. Of course there may be some miscommunication and > things may not go perfectly but believe me that can happen right here in > the USA too. I would prefer to have my insurance pay for an AGB right > here in my home town but that wasn't an option. Mexico was an acceptable > alternative. And what really matters is the end result isn't it? So > here's hoping that you all have a beautiful end result that cancels out > the pain, fear and discomforts of going far away from home for surgery. > > My only complaint is the price. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > With more than 14 million emails exchanged daily... > http://www.onelist.com > ...ONElist IS the place where the world talks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 1999 Report Share Posted May 12, 1999 Hi , Sorry if I worried you about mentioning you had a keloid scar. It is not a big deal and I didn't get to finish my explanation. A keloid scar is simply a raised scar and happens to some people and not others. It can happen only on certain parts of your body. My friend had a normal appensix scar and a keloid scar on her breast after a biopsy. What did Dr. Kierath say about it? Regards At 16:31 12/05/1999 +0800, you wrote: > > >Hi Jessie....can you explain KELOID,,,as I have been told that my 6 inch >long and 1/2 inch wide scare has KELOID ( its a really horrible scar and >it bothers me a lot,,,,as in sore )...thanks.... > >Jessie H. Ahroni wrote: >> >> >> >> Janet: I would be interested in having my port moved under muscle too! >> I am probably going to have the port scar revised because of keloid >> formation and it would not be that much more to move it. Does anybody >> else know about this? I wonder if I can get it done in USA since bands >> and ports aren't legal. >> >> Lori: I just read two articles on genetic studies. One was twins (from >> Stockholm I think) raised apart - eating different diets - low fat vs. >> high fat -- guess what - both twins weighed the same. The authors >> concluded that weight is determined more by genetics than diet. The >> other had to do with exercise -- one group followed a diet and the other >> group followed the same diet with exercise -- guess what - they both >> lost the same. These authors concluded that exercise doesn't help that >> much. Sorry I don't have the references. I sent them to Dr. Fox. He >> always finds this stuff interesting. >> >> Sharon: don't do it! stick to the liquids. You can have " full >> liquids " like creamy soups and pudding but no real big solids. You take >> a chance on pushing your band out of place if you cram a wad of food >> through it before the stitches heal. Try some clam chowder with the >> chunks strained out. Run a banana through the blender with some orange >> juice. Take little bites and sips. Chew everything really well. >> Borrow a plastic or rubber toy to chew on from one of your kids. >> Remember -- it is only temporary. You can do it. Distract yourself >> with activities that are incompatible with eating like gardening, >> knitting, being handcuffed to the bed. Call me if you want to. Try >> popsicles and ice. Brush your teeth alot. I can think of more. These >> are all tricks from my dieting days. Sniff stuff. >> >> There is no such thing as cheating. You just had a " diversion " from the >> plan. Hang in there. >> Call Fox and get some appetite suppressants if you are truly hungry. >> >> is right, there is no way to get to the other side except by going >> through it. We all know how tough it can be. It does get easier with >> time for most people. >> >> : down 18 already. It is disgusting the way men lose weight so >> fast. Congratulations. Stopping by burger king will slow that down you >> know. >> >> Yes, you can probably get another doctor to adjust your band. Dr. Fox >> might be willing to talk him/her through it on the phone (although maybe >> not since it would mean less revenue for him). Proper follow-up is >> essential to getting a good result. >> >> This is so exciting to see all of you stepping onto the path of weight >> loss. >> >> Finally: in defense of Mexico. I didn't have any bad experiences. The >> care was just fine. It is not " third world " (cause I have been there >> too and that is bad). Of course it is scary and different - especially >> if you have never had surgery before, if you have not traveled much, if >> you have to go alone. Of course there may be some miscommunication and >> things may not go perfectly but believe me that can happen right here in >> the USA too. I would prefer to have my insurance pay for an AGB right >> here in my home town but that wasn't an option. Mexico was an acceptable >> alternative. And what really matters is the end result isn't it? So >> here's hoping that you all have a beautiful end result that cancels out >> the pain, fear and discomforts of going far away from home for surgery. >> >> My only complaint is the price. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> With more than 14 million emails exchanged daily... >> http://www.onelist.com >> ...ONElist IS the place where the world talks! > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! >http://www.onelist.com >Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 1999 Report Share Posted May 12, 1999 I wasn't worried,,just curious....TK said that it will get better with time... Dave & wrote: > > > > Hi , > Sorry if I worried you about mentioning you had a keloid scar. It is not a > big deal and I didn't get to finish my explanation. A keloid scar is > simply a raised scar and happens to some people and not others. It can > happen only on certain parts of your body. My friend had a normal appensix > scar and a keloid scar on her breast after a biopsy. What did Dr. Kierath > say about it? > > Regards > > At 16:31 12/05/1999 +0800, you wrote: > > > > > >Hi Jessie....can you explain KELOID,,,as I have been told that my 6 inch > >long and 1/2 inch wide scare has KELOID ( its a really horrible scar and > >it bothers me a lot,,,,as in sore )...thanks.... > > > >Jessie H. Ahroni wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Janet: I would be interested in having my port moved under muscle too! > >> I am probably going to have the port scar revised because of keloid > >> formation and it would not be that much more to move it. Does anybody > >> else know about this? I wonder if I can get it done in USA since bands > >> and ports aren't legal. > >> > >> Lori: I just read two articles on genetic studies. One was twins (from > >> Stockholm I think) raised apart - eating different diets - low fat vs. > >> high fat -- guess what - both twins weighed the same. The authors > >> concluded that weight is determined more by genetics than diet. The > >> other had to do with exercise -- one group followed a diet and the other > >> group followed the same diet with exercise -- guess what - they both > >> lost the same. These authors concluded that exercise doesn't help that > >> much. Sorry I don't have the references. I sent them to Dr. Fox. He > >> always finds this stuff interesting. > >> > >> Sharon: don't do it! stick to the liquids. You can have " full > >> liquids " like creamy soups and pudding but no real big solids. You take > >> a chance on pushing your band out of place if you cram a wad of food > >> through it before the stitches heal. Try some clam chowder with the > >> chunks strained out. Run a banana through the blender with some orange > >> juice. Take little bites and sips. Chew everything really well. > >> Borrow a plastic or rubber toy to chew on from one of your kids. > >> Remember -- it is only temporary. You can do it. Distract yourself > >> with activities that are incompatible with eating like gardening, > >> knitting, being handcuffed to the bed. Call me if you want to. Try > >> popsicles and ice. Brush your teeth alot. I can think of more. These > >> are all tricks from my dieting days. Sniff stuff. > >> > >> There is no such thing as cheating. You just had a " diversion " from the > >> plan. Hang in there. > >> Call Fox and get some appetite suppressants if you are truly hungry. > >> > >> is right, there is no way to get to the other side except by going > >> through it. We all know how tough it can be. It does get easier with > >> time for most people. > >> > >> : down 18 already. It is disgusting the way men lose weight so > >> fast. Congratulations. Stopping by burger king will slow that down you > >> know. > >> > >> Yes, you can probably get another doctor to adjust your band. Dr. Fox > >> might be willing to talk him/her through it on the phone (although maybe > >> not since it would mean less revenue for him). Proper follow-up is > >> essential to getting a good result. > >> > >> This is so exciting to see all of you stepping onto the path of weight > >> loss. > >> > >> Finally: in defense of Mexico. I didn't have any bad experiences. The > >> care was just fine. It is not " third world " (cause I have been there > >> too and that is bad). Of course it is scary and different - especially > >> if you have never had surgery before, if you have not traveled much, if > >> you have to go alone. Of course there may be some miscommunication and > >> things may not go perfectly but believe me that can happen right here in > >> the USA too. I would prefer to have my insurance pay for an AGB right > >> here in my home town but that wasn't an option. Mexico was an acceptable > >> alternative. And what really matters is the end result isn't it? So > >> here's hoping that you all have a beautiful end result that cancels out > >> the pain, fear and discomforts of going far away from home for surgery. > >> > >> My only complaint is the price. > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> With more than 14 million emails exchanged daily... > >> http://www.onelist.com > >> ...ONElist IS the place where the world talks! > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! > >http://www.onelist.com > >Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. > http://www.onelist.com > Join a new list today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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