Re: crooked smile and brachycephaly?

[Guest guest]

She's really cute, but I do see the problem with her smile. I can

see her brachy was severe from the photos, but did she have asymmetry

(plagio) too? With plagio it is not uncommon to see a crooked smile

too. I wonder if they are just correcting the brachy at this point, so

the facial asymmetry is staying the same/getting worse? Do you have

her measurements? I think a lot of plagio babies have a crossbite. In

addition to her smile, one cheek looks fuller and her eyes aren't

symmetric (one slightly smaller than the other).

I would ask your ortho & /or doctor about her asymmetry and see if

that is something that can be corrected with a helmet (this one or

maybe a 2nd band). Usually facial asymmetry improves when the head is

made more symmetric. With facial asymmetry you also need to make sure

she doesn't have torticollis (tort) and if she does do PT for that. If

you look in the mirror facial asymmetry is usually more obvious. Look

at this plagio severity assessment (see link) at the bottom you'll see

the facial asymmetry. I think Avery's face looks like number 2 on this

page.

http://www.cranialtech.com/medicalinfo/assessment/plagiocephaly.pdf

It does look like you've gotten a lot of rounding in the back.

-christine

sydney 2 yrs starband grad

>

> My 10 1/2 month old daughter had moderate - severe brachycephaly and

> began wearing a Starband at 7 1/2 months. I noticed, at about 6 1/2

> months, that her smile sometimes appeared crooked. Since the band,

> she's gotten 5 more teeth (she had 3 already). Since her 4 top teeth

> have come in, I noticed that the crooked smile appears worse, more

> often. She doesn't always smile with it crooked, but I notice it more

> and more in pictures and a little warning bell is going off in my

> head. It seems like as her brachy is getting better, her smile is

> becoming more crooked more often.

>

> Is this possible? I am not sure what can be done about it, if anything

> or where to begin. The neurosurgeon and cranio-facial doctor I took

> her too weren't very helpful regarding using a helmet - both told me

> that her hair would cover the flatness as she became older but 'if it

> bothers me' then they'd give me a script for it. So I don't really

> trust their opinions about this either now.

>

> I posted a few pictures in the phots section " Avery G Starband "

> http://health.ph./group/Plagiocephaly/photos/browse/7abd

>

> Could her smile be crooked due to the sensation of her top and bottom

> teeth coming in possibly or is this something that is a result of the

> brachy and/or helmet?

> Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

Hey there-

I responded to your message on the All About Plagio board regarding

the crossbite issue. I just wanted to respond here to tell you that

Avery's head looks WONDERFUL! That is really great correction for

brachy and she's not even done yet! I would be thrilled, I hope you

are! I hope you get some answers about her crossbite. Please keep us

posted.

Jake-19m (tort resolved/rt plagio/DOCBand 10 weeks)

Jordan-4

>

> My 10 1/2 month old daughter had moderate - severe brachycephaly

and

> began wearing a Starband at 7 1/2 months. I noticed, at about 6

1/2

> months, that her smile sometimes appeared crooked. Since the

band,

> she's gotten 5 more teeth (she had 3 already). Since her 4 top

teeth

> have come in, I noticed that the crooked smile appears worse, more

> often. She doesn't always smile with it crooked, but I notice it

more

> and more in pictures and a little warning bell is going off in my

> head. It seems like as her brachy is getting better, her smile is

> becoming more crooked more often.

>

> Is this possible? I am not sure what can be done about it, if

anything

> or where to begin. The neurosurgeon and cranio-facial doctor I

took

> her too weren't very helpful regarding using a helmet - both told

me

> that her hair would cover the flatness as she became older but 'if

it

> bothers me' then they'd give me a script for it. So I don't

really

> trust their opinions about this either now.

>

> I posted a few pictures in the phots section " Avery G Starband "

>

http://health.ph./group/Plagiocephaly/photos/browse/7

abd

>

> Could her smile be crooked due to the sensation of her top and

bottom

> teeth coming in possibly or is this something that is a result of

the

> brachy and/or helmet?

> Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

Could she be grinding her teeth in the picture? My son had plagio

and every time that he was getting a tooth he would grind is teeth

so if I had taken a picture at that time his smile may have looked

crooked too. I doubt it has anything to do with the helmet but it

could have to do with the brachy but i'm not sure. I would think

that as the brachy is corrected that the crossbite would get better

too. Avery has recieved great correction so far. You'll have to

post more pictures when she graduates. It may be worth taking

Avery to a pediatric dentist. I would ask your dentist or

pediatrician for a referral. Good luck with getting answers on her

crossbite.

lisa

> >

> > My 10 1/2 month old daughter had moderate - severe brachycephaly

> and

> > began wearing a Starband at 7 1/2 months. I noticed, at about 6

> 1/2

> > months, that her smile sometimes appeared crooked. Since the

> band,

> > she's gotten 5 more teeth (she had 3 already). Since her 4 top

> teeth

> > have come in, I noticed that the crooked smile appears worse,

more

> > often. She doesn't always smile with it crooked, but I notice

it

> more

> > and more in pictures and a little warning bell is going off in

my

> > head. It seems like as her brachy is getting better, her smile

is

> > becoming more crooked more often.

> >

> > Is this possible? I am not sure what can be done about it, if

> anything

> > or where to begin. The neurosurgeon and cranio-facial doctor I

> took

> > her too weren't very helpful regarding using a helmet - both

told

> me

> > that her hair would cover the flatness as she became older

but 'if

> it

> > bothers me' then they'd give me a script for it. So I don't

> really

> > trust their opinions about this either now.

> >

> > I posted a few pictures in the phots section " Avery G Starband "

> >

>

http://health.ph./group/Plagiocephaly/photos/browse/7

> abd

> >

> > Could her smile be crooked due to the sensation of her top and

> bottom

> > teeth coming in possibly or is this something that is a result

of

> the

> > brachy and/or helmet?

> > Thanks!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My sister is a pediatric dentist...and i asked her some questions about crossbites, etc. Anyway, she said that they dont usually fix crossbites till they are a little bit older...and sometimes the dentist may refer you to a orthodonist. She said to see your pediatric dentist and they would probably be able to give you all the info you need. Some people see a pediatric dentist by the age of one but most will go by the age of two. I hope some of that info helps you....and Avery is sooo cute by the way and her correction is great!

Plagiocephaly From: lka_236@...Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:08:41 +0000Subject: Re: crooked smile and brachycephaly?

Could she be grinding her teeth in the picture? My son had plagio and every time that he was getting a tooth he would grind is teeth so if I had taken a picture at that time his smile may have looked crooked too. I doubt it has anything to do with the helmet but it could have to do with the brachy but i'm not sure. I would think that as the brachy is corrected that the crossbite would get better too. Avery has recieved great correction so far. You'll have to post more pictures when she graduates. It may be worth taking Avery to a pediatric dentist. I would ask your dentist or pediatrician for a referral. Good luck with getting answers on her crossbite.lisa> >> > My 10 1/2 month old daughter had moderate - severe brachycephaly > and > > began wearing a Starband at 7 1/2 months. I noticed, at about 6 > 1/2 > > months, that her smile sometimes appeared crooked. Since the > band, > > she's gotten 5 more teeth (she had 3 already). Since her 4 top > teeth > > have come in, I noticed that the crooked smile appears worse, more > > often. She doesn't always smile with it crooked, but I notice it > more > > and more in pictures and a little warning bell is going off in my > > head. It seems like as her brachy is getting better, her smile is > > becoming more crooked more often.> > > > Is this possible? I am not sure what can be done about it, if > anything > > or where to begin. The neurosurgeon and cranio-facial doctor I > took > > her too weren't very helpful regarding using a helmet - both told > me > > that her hair would cover the flatness as she became older but 'if > it > > bothers me' then they'd give me a script for it. So I don't > really > > trust their opinions about this either now.> > > > I posted a few pictures in the phots section "Avery G Starband"> > > http://health.ph./group/Plagiocephaly/photos/browse/7> abd> > > > Could her smile be crooked due to the sensation of her top and > bottom > > teeth coming in possibly or is this something that is a result of > the > > brachy and/or helmet?> > Thanks!> >> Spell a grand slam in this game where word skill meets World Series. Get in the game.

[Guest guest]

Hi again-

I already responded, but I just had a realization I wanted to share.

I just ordered a bunch of pictures from Snapfish and I'm really

behind on ordering, so a lot of them were from a year ago. I was

looking at the earlier photos of my son Jake when he only had a

handful of teeth and noticed that he tended to look like he had a

crossbite in quite a few photos as well, though I don't remember

noticing it at the time. But now, a year later, he has a full set of

baby teeth (molars included) and doesn't appear to have that

crossbite look at all anymore. So I'm beginning to think that it

could be just a combination of them getting used to having teeth,

the odd look they have when they only have a few teeth or ones that

haven't come in all the way, and maybe grinding or playing with

their new teeth. Once they get used to them, they come out all the

way, and/or maybe as the plagio/brachy improves (my son did have

some natural improvement over the year, but not enough for my

liking), the crossbite improves. I definitely think it could be

something that you see go away after a while longer. It still

wouldn't hurt to see a pediatric dentist though. One of the

practices near us actually does a free eval for babies under 18

months, so you might want to research that possibility in your area.

Jake-19m (tort resolved/rt plagio/DOCBand 10 weeks)

Jordan-4

> >

> > My 10 1/2 month old daughter had moderate - severe brachycephaly

> and

> > began wearing a Starband at 7 1/2 months. I noticed, at about 6

> 1/2

> > months, that her smile sometimes appeared crooked. Since the

> band,

> > she's gotten 5 more teeth (she had 3 already). Since her 4 top

> teeth

> > have come in, I noticed that the crooked smile appears worse,

more

> > often. She doesn't always smile with it crooked, but I notice

it

> more

> > and more in pictures and a little warning bell is going off in

my

> > head. It seems like as her brachy is getting better, her smile

is

> > becoming more crooked more often.

> >

> > Is this possible? I am not sure what can be done about it, if

> anything

> > or where to begin. The neurosurgeon and cranio-facial doctor I

> took

> > her too weren't very helpful regarding using a helmet - both

told

> me

> > that her hair would cover the flatness as she became older

but 'if

> it

> > bothers me' then they'd give me a script for it. So I don't

> really

> > trust their opinions about this either now.

> >

> > I posted a few pictures in the phots section " Avery G Starband "

> >

>

http://health.ph./group/Plagiocephaly/photos/browse/7

> abd

> >

> > Could her smile be crooked due to the sensation of her top and

> bottom

> > teeth coming in possibly or is this something that is a result

of

> the

> > brachy and/or helmet?

> > Thanks!

> >

>