Re: Alright, so what's the deal? Nick?

[Guest guest]

I understand. In general though, when you see temperatures drop like in my

situation, what does it mean?

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> >. I know that this may seem like it's caused by cortisol, but I am not so

sure if it is (I know I will get heat for this, I will explain myself later if

people question this).

>

> At 1,75 grains you are on less than a full replacement dose and every

> time you alter the dosing the output from your own thyroid varies as

> well.

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> If this variation is not completely in step then all sorts of strange

> things can happen.

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> 0.25 of a grain is a very small increment, try taking it up to 2

> grains one on waking and one lunchtime.

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> " Most people " need 3 to 5 grains and will need months to build up to

> there and stabilise on it.

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> We are more used to advising on T3 dosing here, the main NTH group is

> the better place to advise on natural dosing

>

> Nick

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> --

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> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

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> www.thyroid-rt3.com

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[Guest guest]

It happens because the more meds you take, the less your own thyroid makes, thus

you end up with even LESS thyroid in your system than before you started and

have to keep raising to make up for this and get beyond. This is due to the

feedback loop and is the reason when you take thyroid you end up taking all of

what you need from pills as your own thyroid production goes to about zero,

depending on the person of course.

In short -- this is normal for temps to go up and then fall as your own thyroid

production falls, and you just have to keep raising until you get to where you

want to be.

If your adrenals are fine, you just keep raising by every so often (I don't know

how often you're supposed to raise NTH) until you feel well.

Kathleen

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> > >I understand. In general though, when you see temperatures drop like in my

situation, what does it mean?

> >

> > Generally

> >

> > stable but low temperature = hypo

> >

> > unstable temperature = adrenal

> >

> > low and unstable temperature = adrenal and thyroid

> >

> > Have a read of this page

> >

> > http://thyroid-rt3.com/temperat.htm

> >

> > Nick

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> > --

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> > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

> >

> > www.thyroid-rt3.com

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Please excuse me, but I don't think it's " necessarily " low cortisol unless your

temps are unstable from day to day or you're having low cortisol symptoms, which

for a beginner, usually starts out as feeling worse or even " crashing " or

feeling like you caught the flu shortly after starting thyroid hormone. As I

explained in my prior post, I believe it is normal for temps to drop as you

raise if you are not raising fast enough to compensate for the own decline in

your thyroid production.

Correct me please, Nick, if you don't agree with this. I am NOT trying to step

on toes.

That is why you need temp graphing to see what is what. As Nick said, low but

stable is you need more thyroid, low and unstable means you need to get your

adrenals in order and you also need more thyroid.

Kathleen

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> >I know that, but what I'm saying is , when I rise my dose, my basal

temperatures get LOWER. my basals went from 97.5 to 97.2 after RAISING my dose.

Why would this happen?

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> There isn't enough cortisol for the extra T3, therefore the increase

> uses it up and temperature lowers as a result.

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> The solution is to lower T3 for a day to " use up " the pooled T3 and

> then increase the adrenal support. You can then increase T3 again,

>

> If you just increased T3 you may hit hyper as a lot of circulating T3

> would suddenly get into the cells.

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> Nick

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> --

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> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

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> Nick

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[Guest guest]

wow.. I can't believe it's that simple! I thought I understood the feedback loop

but I didn't really understand it until now. That makes perfect sense. My basal

was coming in at 97.5 on 1.5 grains, then when I raised it just to 1.75 grains

was 97.7 for one day and then wen't down to 97.2 . No I don't believe it's

cortisol at all - temps are stable, I don't have symptoms of low cortisol, etc.

So now I guess I'll just keep raising slowly till I'm on my optimal dose..

If my basal was 97.7 for one day, though, wouldn't that mean I'm nearing my

optimal dose, since the ideal range for basal temps is 97.8- 98.2?

> > >

> > > >I understand. In general though, when you see temperatures drop like in

my situation, what does it mean?

> > >

> > > Generally

> > >

> > > stable but low temperature = hypo

> > >

> > > unstable temperature = adrenal

> > >

> > > low and unstable temperature = adrenal and thyroid

> > >

> > > Have a read of this page

> > >

> > > http://thyroid-rt3.com/temperat.htm

> > >

> > > Nick

> > >

> > > --

> > >

> > > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

> > >

> > > www.thyroid-rt3.com

> > >

> >

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