I need help, not feeling well! Please

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Need help with my cortisol results, please tell me what I need to do:

6am-8am- 24 range 13-24

11-12noon - 16 range 5-10

4:00 -5pm- 15 range 3-8

10-mid - 15 range 1-4

Feeling very dizzy when lifting my head of pillow, disoriented, weak, muscle

aches, you name it I have it. Pretty much bed bound right now. Rapid heartbeat

just by walking across the room.

TSH 1.130 range 0.450-4.500

reverse t3 261 range 90-350

tbo 17 range 0-34

ferritin 40 13-150

free t3- 2.7 range 1.2-4.9

free t4 - 2.7 range 2.0-4.4

total t 4 - 9.0 range 4.5-12.0

I dont know where to begin, except to get the ferritin up. Need help.

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Hi

I think your FT3/RT3 ratio is 2700/261 = 10.3 And it should be above 20 to feel well. Low ferritin levels causes RT3 so I would think your low ferritin levels and this bad RT3 ratio will be making you feel pretty rubbish

Lets see what the others have to say about your adrenals

Good luck

Josie

TSH 1.130 range 0.450-4.500reverse t3 261 range 90-350tbo 17 range 0-34ferritin 40 13-150free t3- 2.7 range 1.2-4.9free t4 - 2.7 range 2.0-4.4total t 4 - 9.0 range 4.5-12.0

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until someone more knowledgeable about your protocol

chimes in....perhaps you'd do well meanwhile to eat a

LOT of high iron foods like rare beef, LIVER aND

SPINACH?

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From : Josie

Sent : 5/15/2010 1:24:53 PM

To : rt3_t3

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Subject : RE: I need help, not feeling well!

Please

Hi

I think your FT3/RT3 ratio is 2700/261 = 10.3

And it should be above 20 to feel well. Low ferritin

levels causes RT3 so I would think your low ferritin

levels and this bad RT3 ratio will be making you feel

pretty rubbish

Lets see what the others have to say about your adrenals

Good luck

Josie

TSH 1.130 range 0.450-4.500

reverse t3 261 range 90-350

tbo 17 range 0-34

ferritin 40 13-150

free t3- 2.7 range 1.2-4.9

free t4 - 2.7 range 2.0-4.4

total t 4 - 9.0 range 4.5-12.0

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I would agree with Josie. My RT3 ratio is 10, and I'm feeling pretty much the same way that you describe. extreme fatigue, foggy thinking, dizzy/vertigo, just horrible. the worst for me is that i'm currently single, have no family to speak of, and i run my own business (or i should say "barely run" at this point). needless to say, things have been spiraling downward. :-(

i was taking T3 only but could not tolerate so cut that out. have been trying to get ferritin up over past two years with not too much luck. recently added lactoferrin to hopefully help with absorption.

i'm seeing a new ND on Monday, and a Bioenergetic MD on Friday, and hoping I will get something useful from one of these.

Hang in there!

nervx

Subject: RE: I need help, not feeling well! PleaseTo: rt3_t3 Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 1:24 PM

Hi I think your FT3/RT3 ratio is 2700/261 = 10.3 And it should be above 20 to feel well. Low ferritin levels causes RT3 so I would think your low ferritin levels and this bad RT3 ratio will be making you feel pretty rubbish Lets see what the others have to say about your adrenals Good luck Josie

TSH 1.130 range 0.450-4.500reverse t3 261 range 90-350tbo 17 range 0-34ferritin 40 13-150free t3- 2.7 range 1.2-4.9free t4 - 2.7 range 2.0-4.4total t 4 - 9.0 range 4.5-12.0

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Your cortisol is very high. Are you taking anything for it? HC or Isocort?

Are you supplementing salt at all? I felt HORRIBLE before I started supplementing salt.

Anyother symptoms?

Kitty

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 2:57:46 PMSubject: I need help, not feeling well! Please

Need help with my cortisol results, please tell me what I need to do:6am-8am- 24 range 13-2411-12noon - 16 range 5-104:00 -5pm- 15 range 3-810-mid - 15 range 1-4Feeling very dizzy when lifting my head of pillow, disoriented, weak, muscle aches, you name it I have it. Pretty much bed bound right now. Rapid heartbeat just by walking across the room.TSH 1.130 range 0.450-4.500reverse t3 261 range 90-350tbo 17 range 0-34ferritin 40 13-150free t3- 2.7 range 1.2-4.9free t4 - 2.7 range 2.0-4.4total t 4 - 9.0 range 4.5-12.0I dont know where to begin, except to get the ferritin up. Need help.

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Definitely repost then to the adrenal group tomorrow. Kitty is right, it could

be a tumor. This could be very serious and nothing to fool with.

Kathleen

> >>

> >> Need help with my cortisol results, please tell me what I need to do:

> >>

> >> 6am-8am- 24 range 13-24

> >> 11-12noon - 16 range 5-10

> >> 4:00 -5pm- 15 range 3-8

> >> 10-mid - 15 range 1-4

> >>

> >> Feeling very dizzy when lifting my head of pillow, disoriented, weak,

muscle aches, you name it I have it. Pretty much bed bound right now. Rapid

heartbeat just by walking across the room.

> >>

> >> TSH 1.130 range 0.450-4.500

> >> reverse t3 261 range 90-350

> >> tbo 17 range 0-34

> >> ferritin 40 13-150

> >> free t3- 2.7 range 1.2-4.9

> >> free t4 - 2.7 range 2.0-4.4

> >> total t 4 - 9.0 range 4.5-12.0

> >>

> >> I dont know where to begin, except to get the ferritin up. Need help.

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Definitely repost then to the adrenal group tomorrow. Kitty is right, it could

be a tumor. This could be very serious and nothing to fool with.

Kathleen

> >>

> >> Need help with my cortisol results, please tell me what I need to do:

> >>

> >> 6am-8am- 24 range 13-24

> >> 11-12noon - 16 range 5-10

> >> 4:00 -5pm- 15 range 3-8

> >> 10-mid - 15 range 1-4

> >>

> >> Feeling very dizzy when lifting my head of pillow, disoriented, weak,

muscle aches, you name it I have it. Pretty much bed bound right now. Rapid

heartbeat just by walking across the room.

> >>

> >> TSH 1.130 range 0.450-4.500

> >> reverse t3 261 range 90-350

> >> tbo 17 range 0-34

> >> ferritin 40 13-150

> >> free t3- 2.7 range 1.2-4.9

> >> free t4 - 2.7 range 2.0-4.4

> >> total t 4 - 9.0 range 4.5-12.0

> >>

> >> I dont know where to begin, except to get the ferritin up. Need help.

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Definitely repost then to the adrenal group tomorrow. Kitty is right, it could

be a tumor. This could be very serious and nothing to fool with.

Kathleen

> >>

> >> Need help with my cortisol results, please tell me what I need to do:

> >>

> >> 6am-8am- 24 range 13-24

> >> 11-12noon - 16 range 5-10

> >> 4:00 -5pm- 15 range 3-8

> >> 10-mid - 15 range 1-4

> >>

> >> Feeling very dizzy when lifting my head of pillow, disoriented, weak,

muscle aches, you name it I have it. Pretty much bed bound right now. Rapid

heartbeat just by walking across the room.

> >>

> >> TSH 1.130 range 0.450-4.500

> >> reverse t3 261 range 90-350

> >> tbo 17 range 0-34

> >> ferritin 40 13-150

> >> free t3- 2.7 range 1.2-4.9

> >> free t4 - 2.7 range 2.0-4.4

> >> total t 4 - 9.0 range 4.5-12.0

> >>

> >> I dont know where to begin, except to get the ferritin up. Need help.

> >>

> >

> >

>

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Yes adrenal glands are fine I had a cat scan, no tumors. A friend of mine said maybe it can be Lyme disease. I was tested for it last year and was negative, but I hear most tests do come out negative. I do live in tick country though, and have been bit multiple times.Sent from my iPad

Have you been to a doctor? I think adrenal tumors can cause high cortisol but leave you 'looking' normal.

Kitty

From: Whitfield <starlightvisions (AT) verizon (DOT) net>To: "RT3_T3 " <RT3_T3 >Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 8:25:16 PMSubject: Re: Re: I need help, not feeling well! Please

I had them done at zrt last year and they were still high.Sent from my iPad

On May 15, 2010, at 8:04 PM, "moonlithorses" <moonlithorses@ gmail.com> wrote:

If you had your saliva test done by Diagnostechs you may want to redo it at a more reliable lab. They are known for false high results. If you post to the adrenal board, they will suggest www.canaryclub. comHeidi>> Need help with my cortisol results, please tell me what I need to do:> > 6am-8am- 24 range 13-24> 11-12noon - 16 range 5-10> 4:00 -5pm- 15 range 3-8> 10-mid - 15 range 1-4> > Feeling very dizzy when lifting my head of pillow,

disoriented, weak, muscle aches, you name it I have it. Pretty much bed bound right now. Rapid heartbeat just by walking across the room.> > TSH 1.130 range 0.450-4.500> reverse t3 261 range 90-350> tbo 17 range 0-34> ferritin 40 13-150> free t3- 2.7 range 1.2-4.9> free t4 - 2.7 range 2.0-4.4> total t 4 - 9.0 range 4.5-12.0> > I dont know where to begin, except to get the ferritin up. Need help.>

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Yes adrenal glands are fine I had a cat scan, no tumors. A friend of mine said maybe it can be Lyme disease. I was tested for it last year and was negative, but I hear most tests do come out negative. I do live in tick country though, and have been bit multiple times.Sent from my iPad

Have you been to a doctor? I think adrenal tumors can cause high cortisol but leave you 'looking' normal.

Kitty

From: Whitfield <starlightvisions (AT) verizon (DOT) net>To: "RT3_T3 " <RT3_T3 >Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 8:25:16 PMSubject: Re: Re: I need help, not feeling well! Please

I had them done at zrt last year and they were still high.Sent from my iPad

On May 15, 2010, at 8:04 PM, "moonlithorses" <moonlithorses@ gmail.com> wrote:

If you had your saliva test done by Diagnostechs you may want to redo it at a more reliable lab. They are known for false high results. If you post to the adrenal board, they will suggest www.canaryclub. comHeidi>> Need help with my cortisol results, please tell me what I need to do:> > 6am-8am- 24 range 13-24> 11-12noon - 16 range 5-10> 4:00 -5pm- 15 range 3-8> 10-mid - 15 range 1-4> > Feeling very dizzy when lifting my head of pillow,

disoriented, weak, muscle aches, you name it I have it. Pretty much bed bound right now. Rapid heartbeat just by walking across the room.> > TSH 1.130 range 0.450-4.500> reverse t3 261 range 90-350> tbo 17 range 0-34> ferritin 40 13-150> free t3- 2.7 range 1.2-4.9> free t4 - 2.7 range 2.0-4.4> total t 4 - 9.0 range 4.5-12.0> > I dont know where to begin, except to get the ferritin up. Need help.>

[Guest guest]

Yes adrenal glands are fine I had a cat scan, no tumors. A friend of mine said maybe it can be Lyme disease. I was tested for it last year and was negative, but I hear most tests do come out negative. I do live in tick country though, and have been bit multiple times.Sent from my iPad

Have you been to a doctor? I think adrenal tumors can cause high cortisol but leave you 'looking' normal.

Kitty

From: Whitfield <starlightvisions (AT) verizon (DOT) net>To: "RT3_T3 " <RT3_T3 >Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 8:25:16 PMSubject: Re: Re: I need help, not feeling well! Please

I had them done at zrt last year and they were still high.Sent from my iPad

On May 15, 2010, at 8:04 PM, "moonlithorses" <moonlithorses@ gmail.com> wrote:

If you had your saliva test done by Diagnostechs you may want to redo it at a more reliable lab. They are known for false high results. If you post to the adrenal board, they will suggest www.canaryclub. comHeidi>> Need help with my cortisol results, please tell me what I need to do:> > 6am-8am- 24 range 13-24> 11-12noon - 16 range 5-10> 4:00 -5pm- 15 range 3-8> 10-mid - 15 range 1-4> > Feeling very dizzy when lifting my head of pillow,

disoriented, weak, muscle aches, you name it I have it. Pretty much bed bound right now. Rapid heartbeat just by walking across the room.> > TSH 1.130 range 0.450-4.500> reverse t3 261 range 90-350> tbo 17 range 0-34> ferritin 40 13-150> free t3- 2.7 range 1.2-4.9> free t4 - 2.7 range 2.0-4.4> total t 4 - 9.0 range 4.5-12.0> > I dont know where to begin, except to get the ferritin up. Need help.>

[Guest guest]

Lyme disease can be really tricky I have not had it fortunately but do know there are quite a few tests that can be run. I have also heard that EBV can wreak havoc on the cortisol output. I know I have that! Happy to hear scans were negative The bad thing about lyme ticks is you can't see them. They are very small and not everyone is able to catch the 'bulls eye' rash depending on where they are bit

Kitty

To: "RT3_T3 " <RT3_T3 >Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 9:31:20 PMSubject: Re: Re: I need help, not feeling well! Please

Yes adrenal glands are fine I had a cat scan, no tumors. A friend of mine said maybe it can be Lyme disease. I was tested for it last year and was negative, but I hear most tests do come out negative. I do live in tick country though, and have been bit multiple times.Sent from my iPad

On May 15, 2010, at 8:28 PM, kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Have you been to a doctor? I think adrenal tumors can cause high cortisol but leave you 'looking' normal.

Kitty

From: Whitfield <starlightvisions (AT) verizon (DOT) net>To: "RT3_T3@yahoogroups .com" <RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 8:25:16 PMSubject: Re: Re: I need help, not feeling well! Please

I had them done at zrt last year and they were still high.Sent from my iPad

On May 15, 2010, at 8:04 PM, "moonlithorses" <moonlithorses@ gmail.com> wrote:

If you had your saliva test done by Diagnostechs you may want to redo it at a more reliable lab. They are known for false high results. If you post to the adrenal board, they will suggest www.canaryclub. comHeidi>> Need help with my cortisol results, please tell me what I need to do:> > 6am-8am- 24 range 13-24> 11-12noon - 16 range 5-10> 4:00 -5pm- 15 range 3-8> 10-mid - 15 range 1-4> > Feeling very dizzy when lifting my head of pillow,

disoriented, weak, muscle aches, you name it I have it. Pretty much bed bound right now. Rapid heartbeat just by walking across the room.> > TSH 1.130 range 0.450-4.500> reverse t3 261 range 90-350> tbo 17 range 0-34> ferritin 40 13-150> free t3- 2.7 range 1.2-4.9> free t4 - 2.7 range 2.0-4.4> total t 4 - 9.0 range 4.5-12.0> > I dont know where to begin, except to get the ferritin up. Need help.>

[Guest guest]

Lyme disease can be really tricky I have not had it fortunately but do know there are quite a few tests that can be run. I have also heard that EBV can wreak havoc on the cortisol output. I know I have that! Happy to hear scans were negative The bad thing about lyme ticks is you can't see them. They are very small and not everyone is able to catch the 'bulls eye' rash depending on where they are bit

Kitty

To: "RT3_T3 " <RT3_T3 >Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 9:31:20 PMSubject: Re: Re: I need help, not feeling well! Please

Yes adrenal glands are fine I had a cat scan, no tumors. A friend of mine said maybe it can be Lyme disease. I was tested for it last year and was negative, but I hear most tests do come out negative. I do live in tick country though, and have been bit multiple times.Sent from my iPad

On May 15, 2010, at 8:28 PM, kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Have you been to a doctor? I think adrenal tumors can cause high cortisol but leave you 'looking' normal.

Kitty

From: Whitfield <starlightvisions (AT) verizon (DOT) net>To: "RT3_T3@yahoogroups .com" <RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 8:25:16 PMSubject: Re: Re: I need help, not feeling well! Please

I had them done at zrt last year and they were still high.Sent from my iPad

On May 15, 2010, at 8:04 PM, "moonlithorses" <moonlithorses@ gmail.com> wrote:

If you had your saliva test done by Diagnostechs you may want to redo it at a more reliable lab. They are known for false high results. If you post to the adrenal board, they will suggest www.canaryclub. comHeidi>> Need help with my cortisol results, please tell me what I need to do:> > 6am-8am- 24 range 13-24> 11-12noon - 16 range 5-10> 4:00 -5pm- 15 range 3-8> 10-mid - 15 range 1-4> > Feeling very dizzy when lifting my head of pillow,

disoriented, weak, muscle aches, you name it I have it. Pretty much bed bound right now. Rapid heartbeat just by walking across the room.> > TSH 1.130 range 0.450-4.500> reverse t3 261 range 90-350> tbo 17 range 0-34> ferritin 40 13-150> free t3- 2.7 range 1.2-4.9> free t4 - 2.7 range 2.0-4.4> total t 4 - 9.0 range 4.5-12.0> > I dont know where to begin, except to get the ferritin up. Need help.>

[Guest guest]

Lyme disease can be really tricky I have not had it fortunately but do know there are quite a few tests that can be run. I have also heard that EBV can wreak havoc on the cortisol output. I know I have that! Happy to hear scans were negative The bad thing about lyme ticks is you can't see them. They are very small and not everyone is able to catch the 'bulls eye' rash depending on where they are bit

Kitty

To: "RT3_T3 " <RT3_T3 >Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 9:31:20 PMSubject: Re: Re: I need help, not feeling well! Please

Yes adrenal glands are fine I had a cat scan, no tumors. A friend of mine said maybe it can be Lyme disease. I was tested for it last year and was negative, but I hear most tests do come out negative. I do live in tick country though, and have been bit multiple times.Sent from my iPad

On May 15, 2010, at 8:28 PM, kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Have you been to a doctor? I think adrenal tumors can cause high cortisol but leave you 'looking' normal.

Kitty

From: Whitfield <starlightvisions (AT) verizon (DOT) net>To: "RT3_T3@yahoogroups .com" <RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 8:25:16 PMSubject: Re: Re: I need help, not feeling well! Please

I had them done at zrt last year and they were still high.Sent from my iPad

On May 15, 2010, at 8:04 PM, "moonlithorses" <moonlithorses@ gmail.com> wrote:

If you had your saliva test done by Diagnostechs you may want to redo it at a more reliable lab. They are known for false high results. If you post to the adrenal board, they will suggest www.canaryclub. comHeidi>> Need help with my cortisol results, please tell me what I need to do:> > 6am-8am- 24 range 13-24> 11-12noon - 16 range 5-10> 4:00 -5pm- 15 range 3-8> 10-mid - 15 range 1-4> > Feeling very dizzy when lifting my head of pillow,

disoriented, weak, muscle aches, you name it I have it. Pretty much bed bound right now. Rapid heartbeat just by walking across the room.> > TSH 1.130 range 0.450-4.500> reverse t3 261 range 90-350> tbo 17 range 0-34> ferritin 40 13-150> free t3- 2.7 range 1.2-4.9> free t4 - 2.7 range 2.0-4.4> total t 4 - 9.0 range 4.5-12.0> > I dont know where to begin, except to get the ferritin up. Need help.>