Re: desperate to regulate thyroid / Is it RT3? & tests without Dr.

[Guest guest]

The failure of T4 and Natural Thyroid to improve your health sounds like it

could be an RT3 problem. You don't need your Dr. to test your RT3. You can get

your own RT3 test through econolabs.com (in every state except NJ, NY & RI). No

Dr. required.

If you can get current FT3 and RT3 results, you can calculate your ratio (and

see if RT3 is a problem). If you're good at math, here's the " how to " :

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/8BwQTKhJ0fxuunlUgQrmSOSbMxcITb-7nR8Q31AHdheEtNG9AwL\

q0aADn6fsR9JHa9WENNr5XHmK_DhD3jcVmw/Examples.txt

If you're bad at math (like me!), post your numbers and some kind soul here will

likely calculate the ratio for you. It should be 20 or over.

If your ratio is below 20; then yes, RT3 is a problem, and here's a gold mine of

RT3 information - Moderator Nick's website:

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

You did not post your iron labs...you will not utilize any form of thyroid well

if you are low in iron (ferritin should be over 50, and 70-90 is ideal).

Occasionally, ferritin test results can come back falsely elevated, so for a

complete iron " picture " , an " iron panel " test is recommended.

You can check if your adrenal support is adequate by temperature graphing,

here's the link:

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/adrenals.htm

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> From: interart81 <interart81 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> Subject: desperate to regulate thyroid

> To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 10:24 PM

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> I don't know if my last message went through or not........

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> -I have been to many docs and each increases or lowers my meds and I can't

regulate my thyroid..... .my T4 had always been low so docs had put me on

levythoxine and I was taking 75mg T4 and armour 45g 2/day in NOV. 09. I then

asked the doc to test for RT3 and these were my results:

> -RT3: 419 (range 90--350)

> -FT3: 3.6 (range 2.3--4.2)

> -FT4: 1.5 (range .8--1.8)

> TSH: .03 (range .40--5.2)

> I also have high thyroid antibodies of 5.64 (range less than 1.20) and have

hashimotos.

> I stopped the levythoxine and retested in DECEMBER 09:

> -RT3: 295 (range 90--350)

> -FT3: 4.08 (range 1.8--4.2)

> -FT4: 1.2 (range .8--1.9)

> *the FTs were taken by different lab than November.

> I upped the armour to 60g 3/day and switched doctors. In APRIL 2010

> I tested:

> -TSH: .1 (range .3--5)

> -FT3: 3.19 (range 1.8--4)

> -TT4: 6.0 (range 4--12) I don't know why this doc didn't test free level

> He told me I didn't have RT3 problem (w/o re-testing), and said to lower

armour to 60g. 2/day.

> Now I just retested:

> -TSH .03 (.35--5.5)

> -FT3: 3.5 (2.3--4.2)

> -FT4: .9 (.8--1.8)

> My hair is falling out, dry skin, weight loss (I have never gained weight

since being dx'd), trouble sleeping, hot sweats, etcetc...

> I don't know what to do.....my T's never test well. Now I am taking just 60

grains armour (between nature-thyroid and thryoid-s) twice/day, and I also take

adrenal support..... .....

> Any help you can give would be much appreciated. .......

>

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[Guest guest]

Thank you, tomorrow will post my ferritin and adrenal results in that I have them in my office. How much time should one be off T3 in order to test RT3 because actually 3 days ago I started taking by myself cytomel 12.5mg (or 1/2 pill).......should I stop now and test in 10 days, is that ok? > > > From: interart81 <interart81 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> Subject: desperate to regulate thyroid> To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com> Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 10:24 PM> > > Â > > I don't know if my last message went through or

not........> > -I have been to many docs and each increases or lowers my meds and I can't regulate my thyroid..... .my T4 had always been low so docs had put me on levythoxine and I was taking 75mg T4 and armour 45g 2/day in NOV. 09. I then asked the doc to test for RT3 and these were my results:> -RT3: 419 (range 90--350)> -FT3: 3.6 (range 2.3--4.2)> -FT4: 1.5 (range .8--1.8)> TSH: .03 (range .40--5.2)> I also have high thyroid antibodies of 5.64 (range less than 1.20) and have hashimotos.> I stopped the levythoxine and retested in DECEMBER 09:> -RT3: 295 (range 90--350)> -FT3: 4.08 (range 1.8--4.2)> -FT4: 1.2 (range .8--1.9)> *the FTs were taken by different lab than November.> I upped the armour to 60g 3/day and switched doctors. In APRIL 2010> I tested:> -TSH: .1 (range .3--5)> -FT3: 3.19 (range 1.8--4)> -TT4: 6.0 (range 4--12) I

don't know why this doc didn't test free level> He told me I didn't have RT3 problem (w/o re-testing), and said to lower armour to 60g. 2/day.> Now I just retested:> -TSH .03 (.35--5.5)> -FT3: 3.5 (2.3--4.2)> -FT4: .9 (.8--1.8)> My hair is falling out, dry skin, weight loss (I have never gained weight since being dx'd), trouble sleeping, hot sweats, etcetc...> I don't know what to do.....my T's never test well. Now I am taking just 60 grains armour (between nature-thyroid and thryoid-s) twice/day, and I also take adrenal support..... .....> Any help you can give would be much appreciated. .......> >

[Guest guest]

Being on Cytomel will affect your RT3 results. I'm not sure 3 days of it is

long enough to do so; but the plan you've suggested will probably give the most

accurate results; stop now and test in 10 days.

When you re-start the Cytomel, don't miss Moderator Nick's webpage on this

subject:

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm

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> > From: interart81 <interart81 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> > Subject: desperate to regulate thyroid

> > To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 10:24 PM

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> > I don't know if my last message went through or not........

> >

> > -I have been to many docs and each increases or lowers my meds and I can't

regulate my thyroid..... .my T4 had always been low so docs had put me on

levythoxine and I was taking 75mg T4 and armour 45g 2/day in NOV. 09. I then

asked the doc to test for RT3 and these were my results:

> > -RT3: 419 (range 90--350)

> > -FT3: 3.6 (range 2.3--4.2)

> > -FT4: 1.5 (range .8--1.8)

> > TSH: .03 (range .40--5.2)

> > I also have high thyroid antibodies of 5.64 (range less than 1.20) and have

hashimotos.

> > I stopped the levythoxine and retested in DECEMBER 09:

> > -RT3: 295 (range 90--350)

> > -FT3: 4.08 (range 1.8--4.2)

> > -FT4: 1.2 (range .8--1.9)

> > *the FTs were taken by different lab than November.

> > I upped the armour to 60g 3/day and switched doctors. In APRIL 2010

> > I tested:

> > -TSH: .1 (range .3--5)

> > -FT3: 3.19 (range 1.8--4)

> > -TT4: 6.0 (range 4--12) I don't know why this doc didn't test free level

> > He told me I didn't have RT3 problem (w/o re-testing), and said to lower

armour to 60g. 2/day.

> > Now I just retested:

> > -TSH .03 (.35--5.5)

> > -FT3: 3.5 (2.3--4.2)

> > -FT4: .9 (.8--1.8)

> > My hair is falling out, dry skin, weight loss (I have never gained weight

since being dx'd), trouble sleeping, hot sweats, etcetc...

> > I don't know what to do.....my T's never test well. Now I am taking just 60

grains armour (between nature-thyroid and thryoid-s) twice/day, and I also take

adrenal support..... .....

> > Any help you can give would be much appreciated. .......

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

UMM I would not stop T3 to test RT3. Three days on T3 is not going to

reduce RT3 much. T3 shoudl not be just stopped once oyu are on it for

several weeks as it supresses T4 production.

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http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

[Guest guest]

I plan to be in the US on 6-23 and can test then, but then my results will be skewed if I stay on the T3 won't they?

Subject: Re: Re: desperate to regulate thyroid / Is it RT3? & tests without Dr.To: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 9:20 AM

UMM I would not stop T3 to test RT3. Three days on T3 is not going to reduce RT3 much. T3 shoudl not be just stopped once oyu are on it for several weeks as it supresses T4 production.-- http://nthadrenalsweb.org/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp.webs.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

[Guest guest]

MaYBE A BIT BUT you cetrtainly don;t want to go totally hypo for those

labs either.

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http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

[Guest guest]

so do I keep taking the 1/2 or 12.5mcg up through the lab test date?

Subject: Re: Re: desperate to regulate thyroid / Is it RT3? & tests without Dr.To: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 9:55 AM

MaYBE A BIT BUT you cetrtainly don;t want to go totally hypo for those labs either.-- http://nthadrenalsweb.org/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp.webs.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

[Guest guest]

I would

--

http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/