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Hi

I have twin boys 8mos old and 2 mos ago we decided to band them at CT even

though one has mild left plagio and the other moderate right plagio. It was the

best decision we could have made. I don't think we would be seeing the

improvement without the band. We almost don't band the one with mild plagio

until CT pointed out the fact that the ear asymetry is very hard to correct by

itsel and now, with 4 more weeks to go with the band is not noticeable anymore.

I also saw an Ostheo trained in London and did all the manipulation you

mentioned last week and he told me that in Europe the plagio and brachy is being

treated with both band and sacral therapy and that the therapy can continue

after the band is off.

I hope our exprience helps with your decision.

Good luck!

de Cardenal

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Now I don't know what to do...'

I now have two contradicting opinions and I dont know what to do...

We had our consult earlier in the week at CT and they said he

was " mild to moderate " and she said if we didnt do the band he might

get better and it prob wouldnt be very noticable once he had hair.

She recommended the band, but did seem on the fence about it. He has

the facial asymmetry, so that helped with her recommending the band.

Then, yesterday, we went to Childrens in Milwaulkee WI and saw

the Physicians Assistant in Dr Jensens office. She said he doesnt

need a band. Not really even close. Said his head was off a little,

but not bad at all and repositioning as well as stretches (for the

torticollis he has or doesnt have depending on who you talk to) will

help it even out. I asked her about his eyes/ears asymmetry and she

said its not that bad and that will get better too. She said the

brain is growing and the head is still growing and moving. I told her

what Cranial Tech said, but she still said she doesnt think he needs

it. Then again, she also said they only usually recommend

banding/helmets for moderate to severe, and she said he is mild.

So now I dont know what to do. CT already got the go ahead from

s pediatrician. Thats funny, cause he's the guy that each visit

said it will take care of itself, dont worry, dont band. They faxed

him the paperwork and had the prescription the next day. We havent

even talked to him or seen him in a month..and I never told him we

were going to CT. Wierd. Apparently the insurance will also cover

it. They think at 100%. BUT...my husband, my MIL, my Mom, the

Chiropractor, the Osteopath and the Cranialfacial clinic in Wisconsin

all say he doesnt need the band. The clinician CT " seemed " on the

fence but said its prob still best, and I look at his head and mostly

his eyes and ears and can only pray that it would get better on its

own. His head isnt the worst I guess, but his ears are off and his

left eye is sligtly smaller looking and down/off to left more.

Arrgghhh...

So do I go against what most people think, or do I just trust it will

get better if so many say it will? Plus, he has mild torticollis, and

I have heard the weight of the band can make it worse.

Here are the measurements I just got in the mail from CT:

Cranial Width 123mm ~ mean

Cranial Lenght 137mm ~ -2

Cephalic Index 89.7 ~ +2

Cranial Vault Asymmetry ~ 8mm

Mid Face Asymmetry ~ 2mm

Skull Base Asymmetry ~ 4mm

And then at the bottom (fzR-euL)-(fzL-euR)= 6

Not sure what that all means exactly, but what do you all think about

the banding. Especially since Childrens said dont. sees an

Osteopath and Chiro (mentioned to you before I think). The Osteo does

Cranial Sacral manipulative Therapy on him. Gets the plates/bones in

his head moving the right way. I am wondering if the band would

conteract or impede the work she would be doing by " holding " his head

a certain shape? She doesnt want him in a band either. Neither does

the Chiropractor. Man, I feel like if I did band him I would be going

against almost everyone else. Maybe hes not that bad and I am just

being paranoid. I have a really good eye for things that are off. I

look at border in our house, or walls or pictures, and can tell if

its off even slightly.

We have an appointment I set up 2 weeks ago for an evaulation with Dr

Vicari at Childrens Glenview/Chicago. I was going to cancel, but

maybe I will keep.

So...what do you all think of his numbers? Should I band? Even with

OSteo treatment?

Sorry for the long long post.. I am just lost as to what I should do

at this point. is 7 1/2 months old. I know I need to decide

soon.

Thanks,

MIchelle

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, your son's situation sounds exactly like what's going on with my daughter. She is now almost nine months old and has been wearing her helmet for a month. She has mild to moderate plagio, but also has eye, cheek, and ear assymetrie. If it weren't for that, we probably wouldn't have banded. Her flat spot is not very bad and her hair would have eventually covered it up. But we decided to band to correct her facial assymetrie. I have read everywhere that that doesn't correct on its own very good and we didn't want to take any chances. She also has mild torticollis and we are doing the stretches etc. Her helmet has not made that worse; I think it has actually gotten better since she has had it on (I started her physical therapie after she got the band). Most people told us before we got the helmet that she doesn't need it, but I am very glad that we didnt' listen since it already has made a difference. I didn't want to have any

regrets later on. So, my advice, since you are having doubts that it will correct on its own is to go ahead and get him banded. Especially since your insurance company will cover it. You have nothing to lose when you get the band, but if you don't, you might regret it later on. And maybe, since his plagio is mild and the facial assymetrie is not bad, he will only have to wear it a few weeks. Good luck to you and your son! Tina <veronica@...> wrote: Hi I have twin boys 8mos old and 2 mos ago we decided to band them at CT even though one has mild left plagio and the other moderate right plagio. It was the best decision we could have made. I don't think we would be seeing the improvement without the band. We almost don't band the one with mild plagio until CT pointed

out the fact that the ear asymetry is very hard to correct by itsel and now, with 4 more weeks to go with the band is not noticeable anymore.I also saw an Ostheo trained in London and did all the manipulation you mentioned last week and he told me that in Europe the plagio and brachy is being treated with both band and sacral therapy and that the therapy can continue after the band is off.I hope our exprience helps with your decision.Good luck! de CardenalSent via BlackBerry by AT & T Now I don't know what to do...'I now have two contradicting opinions and I dont know what to do...We had our consult earlier in the week at CT and they said he was "mild to moderate" and she said if we didnt do the band he might get better and it

prob wouldnt be very noticable once he had hair. She recommended the band, but did seem on the fence about it. He has the facial asymmetry, so that helped with her recommending the band.Then, yesterday, we went to Childrens in Milwaulkee WI and saw the Physicians Assistant in Dr Jensens office. She said he doesnt need a band. Not really even close. Said his head was off a little, but not bad at all and repositioning as well as stretches (for the torticollis he has or doesnt have depending on who you talk to) will help it even out. I asked her about his eyes/ears asymmetry and she said its not that bad and that will get better too. She said the brain is growing and the head is still growing and moving. I told her what Cranial Tech said, but she still said she doesnt think he needs it. Then again, she also said they only usually recommend banding/helmets for moderate to severe, and she said he is mild.So

now I dont know what to do. CT already got the go ahead from s pediatrician. Thats funny, cause he's the guy that each visit said it will take care of itself, dont worry, dont band. They faxed him the paperwork and had the prescription the next day. We havent even talked to him or seen him in a month..and I never told him we were going to CT. Wierd. Apparently the insurance will also cover it. They think at 100%. BUT...my husband, my MIL, my Mom, the Chiropractor, the Osteopath and the Cranialfacial clinic in Wisconsin all say he doesnt need the band. The clinician CT "seemed" on the fence but said its prob still best, and I look at his head and mostly his eyes and ears and can only pray that it would get better on its own. His head isnt the worst I guess, but his ears are off and his left eye is sligtly smaller looking and down/off to left more. Arrgghhh... So do I go against what most people think, or do I

just trust it will get better if so many say it will? Plus, he has mild torticollis, and I have heard the weight of the band can make it worse.Here are the measurements I just got in the mail from CT:Cranial Width 123mm ~ meanCranial Lenght 137mm ~ -2Cephalic Index 89.7 ~ +2Cranial Vault Asymmetry ~ 8mmMid Face Asymmetry ~ 2mmSkull Base Asymmetry ~ 4mmAnd then at the bottom (fzR-euL)-(fzL-euR)= 6Not sure what that all means exactly, but what do you all think about the banding. Especially since Childrens said dont. sees an Osteopath and Chiro (mentioned to you before I think). The Osteo does Cranial Sacral manipulative Therapy on him. Gets the plates/bones in his head moving the right way. I am wondering if the band would conteract or impede the work she would be doing by "holding" his head a certain shape? She doesnt want him in a band either. Neither does the Chiropractor. Man,

I feel like if I did band him I would be going against almost everyone else. Maybe hes not that bad and I am just being paranoid. I have a really good eye for things that are off. I look at border in our house, or walls or pictures, and can tell if its off even slightly. We have an appointment I set up 2 weeks ago for an evaulation with Dr Vicari at Childrens Glenview/Chicago. I was going to cancel, but maybe I will keep.So...what do you all think of his numbers? Should I band? Even with OSteo treatment?Sorry for the long long post.. I am just lost as to what I should do at this point. is 7 1/2 months old. I know I need to decide soon.Thanks,MIchelleFor more plagio info

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I banded and love the results. You should go with your gut. I found it to be a great decision. Tammy mother to Graduate 12/31/08 Dupree <tina_f528@...> wrote: , your son's situation sounds exactly like what's going on with my daughter. She is now almost nine months old and has been wearing her helmet for a month. She has mild to moderate plagio, but also has eye, cheek, and ear assymetrie. If it weren't for that, we probably wouldn't have

banded. Her flat spot is not very bad and her hair would have eventually covered it up. But we decided to band to correct her facial assymetrie. I have read everywhere that that doesn't correct on its own very good and we didn't want to take any chances. She also has mild torticollis and we are doing the stretches etc. Her helmet has not made that worse; I think it has actually gotten better since she has had it on (I started her physical therapie after she got the band). Most people told us before we got the helmet that she doesn't need it, but I am very glad that we didnt' listen since it already has made a difference. I didn't want to have any regrets later on. So, my advice, since you are having doubts that it will correct on its own is to go ahead and get him banded. Especially since your insurance company will cover it. You have nothing to lose when you get the band, but if you don't, you might regret it later on. And maybe, since his plagio is mild and

the facial assymetrie is not bad, he will only have to wear it a few weeks. Good luck to you and your son! Tina <veronicabushandcohen> wrote: Hi I have twin boys 8mos old and 2 mos ago we decided to band them at CT even though one has mild left plagio and the other moderate right plagio. It was the best decision we could have made. I don't think we would be seeing the improvement without the band. We almost don't band the one with mild plagio until CT pointed out the fact that the ear asymetry is very hard to correct by itsel and now, with 4 more weeks to go with the band is not noticeable anymore.I also saw an Ostheo trained in London and did all the manipulation you mentioned last week and he told me that in Europe the plagio and brachy is being treated with both band and sacral therapy and that the therapy can

continue after the band is off.I hope our exprience helps with your decision.Good luck! de CardenalSent via BlackBerry by AT & T Now I don't know what to do...'I now have two contradicting opinions and I dont know what to do...We had our consult earlier in the week at CT and they said he was "mild to moderate" and she said if we didnt do the band he might get better and it prob wouldnt be very noticable once he had hair. She recommended the band, but did seem on the fence about it. He has the facial asymmetry, so that helped with her recommending the band.Then, yesterday, we went to Childrens in Milwaulkee WI and saw the Physicians Assistant in Dr Jensens office. She said he doesnt need a band. Not

really even close. Said his head was off a little, but not bad at all and repositioning as well as stretches (for the torticollis he has or doesnt have depending on who you talk to) will help it even out. I asked her about his eyes/ears asymmetry and she said its not that bad and that will get better too. She said the brain is growing and the head is still growing and moving. I told her what Cranial Tech said, but she still said she doesnt think he needs it. Then again, she also said they only usually recommend banding/helmets for moderate to severe, and she said he is mild.So now I dont know what to do. CT already got the go ahead from s pediatrician. Thats funny, cause he's the guy that each visit said it will take care of itself, dont worry, dont band. They faxed him the paperwork and had the prescription the next day. We havent even talked to him or seen him in a month..and I never told him we were going

to CT. Wierd. Apparently the insurance will also cover it. They think at 100%. BUT...my husband, my MIL, my Mom, the Chiropractor, the Osteopath and the Cranialfacial clinic in Wisconsin all say he doesnt need the band. The clinician CT "seemed" on the fence but said its prob still best, and I look at his head and mostly his eyes and ears and can only pray that it would get better on its own. His head isnt the worst I guess, but his ears are off and his left eye is sligtly smaller looking and down/off to left more. Arrgghhh... So do I go against what most people think, or do I just trust it will get better if so many say it will? Plus, he has mild torticollis, and I have heard the weight of the band can make it worse.Here are the measurements I just got in the mail from CT:Cranial Width 123mm ~ meanCranial Lenght 137mm ~ -2Cephalic Index 89.7 ~ +2Cranial Vault Asymmetry ~ 8mmMid Face Asymmetry

~ 2mmSkull Base Asymmetry ~ 4mmAnd then at the bottom (fzR-euL)-(fzL-euR)= 6Not sure what that all means exactly, but what do you all think about the banding. Especially since Childrens said dont. sees an Osteopath and Chiro (mentioned to you before I think). The Osteo does Cranial Sacral manipulative Therapy on him. Gets the plates/bones in his head moving the right way. I am wondering if the band would conteract or impede the work she would be doing by "holding" his head a certain shape? She doesnt want him in a band either. Neither does the Chiropractor. Man, I feel like if I did band him I would be going against almost everyone else. Maybe hes not that bad and I am just being paranoid. I have a really good eye for things that are off. I look at border in our house, or walls or pictures, and can tell if its off even slightly. We have an appointment I set up 2 weeks ago for an evaulation

with Dr Vicari at Childrens Glenview/Chicago. I was going to cancel, but maybe I will keep.So...what do you all think of his numbers? Should I band? Even with OSteo treatment?Sorry for the long long post.. I am just lost as to what I should do at this point. is 7 1/2 months old. I know I need to decide soon.Thanks,MIchelleFor more plagio info

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Hi ,

I am sorry for all of the contradicting info you are getting. It makes it really difficult to know if you are doing the right thing.

My dtr is also 7.5 mo and will be casted for her docband on Tues at CT in Mequon. Unlike your son, her CI was 100% (3 standard deviations ), but she does not have any asym. She is also fortunate not to have tort. complicating the situation. We were told she is mild and we too were left on the fence on whether or not to band. I can say that after repositioning for the last 3 mo, her brachy has not improved. I guess this is why we decided to band. Yes, her hair (she has a ton of it) hides the flatness, but we decided it was a now or never decision that had to be made. We also went for a second opinion at Hanger in Children's Hosp.-Milwaukee which confirmed her measurements.

Good luck. It is not an easy decision. Kelli

Now I don't know what to do...'

I now have two contradicting opinions and I dont know what to do...We had our consult earlier in the week at CT and they said he was "mild to moderate" and she said if we didnt do the band he might get better and it prob wouldnt be very noticable once he had hair. She recommended the band, but did seem on the fence about it. He has the facial asymmetry, so that helped with her recommending the band.Then, yesterday, we went to Childrens in Milwaulkee WI and saw the Physicians Assistant in Dr Jensens office. She said he doesnt need a band. Not really even close. Said his head was off a little, but not bad at all and repositioning as well as stretches (for the torticollis he has or doesnt have depending on who you talk to) will help it even out. I asked her about his eyes/ears asymmetry and she said its not that bad and that will get better too. She said the brain is growing and the head

is still growing and moving. I told her what Cranial Tech said, but she still said she doesnt think he needs it. Then again, she also said they only usually recommend banding/helmets for moderate to severe, and she said he is mild.So now I dont know what to do. CT already got the go ahead from s pediatrician. Thats funny, cause he's the guy that each visit said it will take care of itself, dont worry, dont band. They faxed him the paperwork and had the prescription the next day. We havent even talked to him or seen him in a month..and I never told him we were going to CT. Wierd. Apparently the insurance will also cover it. They think at 100%. BUT...my husband, my MIL, my Mom, the Chiropractor, the Osteopath and the Cranialfacial clinic in Wisconsin all say he doesnt need the band. The clinician CT "seemed" on the fence but said its prob still best, and I look at his head and mostly his

eyes and ears and can only pray that it would get better on its own. His head isnt the worst I guess, but his ears are off and his left eye is sligtly smaller looking and down/off to left more. Arrgghhh... So do I go against what most people think, or do I just trust it will get better if so many say it will? Plus, he has mild torticollis, and I have heard the weight of the band can make it worse.Here are the measurements I just got in the mail from CT:Cranial Width 123mm ~ meanCranial Lenght 137mm ~ -2Cephalic Index 89.7 ~ +2Cranial Vault Asymmetry ~ 8mmMid Face Asymmetry ~ 2mmSkull Base Asymmetry ~ 4mmAnd then at the bottom (fzR-euL)-(fzL- euR)= 6Not sure what that all means exactly, but what do you all think about the banding. Especially since Childrens said dont. sees an Osteopath and Chiro (mentioned to you before I think). The Osteo does Cranial

Sacral manipulative Therapy on him. Gets the plates/bones in his head moving the right way. I am wondering if the band would conteract or impede the work she would be doing by "holding" his head a certain shape? She doesnt want him in a band either. Neither does the Chiropractor. Man, I feel like if I did band him I would be going against almost everyone else. Maybe hes not that bad and I am just being paranoid. I have a really good eye for things that are off. I look at border in our house, or walls or pictures, and can tell if its off even slightly. We have an appointment I set up 2 weeks ago for an evaulation with Dr Vicari at Childrens Glenview/Chicago. I was going to cancel, but maybe I will keep.So...what do you all think of his numbers? Should I band? Even with OSteo treatment?Sorry for the long long post.. I am just lost as to what I should do at this point. is 7 1/2

months old. I know I need to decide soon.Thanks,MIchelle

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I completely agree with Tina. We banded and our son's plagio wasn't

that bad BUT it was bad to me. My husband, MIL (who was a nurse),

friends, other family members, etc. said that his head was fine.

However, I had one 'honest' friend that asked me about my son's head

shape and if the ped. was okay with it...I knew we needed to go back

to CT at that point (6.5 months...the first time we went was at

3months due to favoring his left side). BOth times (and different

clinicians) recommended banding and measured him the exact same. We

banded and I am SO glad we did. I have no regrets! While his head

may have improved some on his own, I didn't want to take the chance.

Can you post pictures (i.e. top view, left side, right side, and the

back)? Moms (and dads) here can give you their opinions on what

they would do if it was their child.

> Hi

> I have twin boys 8mos old and 2 mos ago we decided to band them at

CT even though one has mild left plagio and the other moderate right

plagio. It was the best decision we could have made. I don't think

we would be seeing the improvement without the band. We almost don't

band the one with mild plagio until CT pointed out the fact that the

ear asymetry is very hard to correct by itsel and now, with 4 more

weeks to go with the band is not noticeable anymore.

> I also saw an Ostheo trained in London and did all the

manipulation you mentioned last week and he told me that in Europe

the plagio and brachy is being treated with both band and sacral

therapy and that the therapy can continue after the band is off.

> I hope our exprience helps with your decision.

> Good luck!

>

> de Cardenal

> Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

>

> Now I don't know what to do...'

>

>

> I now have two contradicting opinions and I dont know what to do...

>

> We had our consult earlier in the week at CT and they said he

> was " mild to moderate " and she said if we didnt do the band he

might

> get better and it prob wouldnt be very noticable once he had hair.

> She recommended the band, but did seem on the fence about it. He

has

> the facial asymmetry, so that helped with her recommending the

band.

>

> Then, yesterday, we went to Childrens in Milwaulkee WI and saw

> the Physicians Assistant in Dr Jensens office. She said he doesnt

> need a band. Not really even close. Said his head was off a

little,

> but not bad at all and repositioning as well as stretches (for the

> torticollis he has or doesnt have depending on who you talk to)

will

> help it even out. I asked her about his eyes/ears asymmetry and

she

> said its not that bad and that will get better too. She said the

> brain is growing and the head is still growing and moving. I told

her

> what Cranial Tech said, but she still said she doesnt think he

needs

> it. Then again, she also said they only usually recommend

> banding/helmets for moderate to severe, and she said he is mild.

>

> So now I dont know what to do. CT already got the go ahead from

> s pediatrician. Thats funny, cause he's the guy that each

visit

> said it will take care of itself, dont worry, dont band. They

faxed

> him the paperwork and had the prescription the next day. We havent

> even talked to him or seen him in a month..and I never told him we

> were going to CT. Wierd. Apparently the insurance will also cover

> it. They think at 100%. BUT...my husband, my MIL, my Mom, the

> Chiropractor, the Osteopath and the Cranialfacial clinic in

Wisconsin

> all say he doesnt need the band. The clinician CT " seemed " on the

> fence but said its prob still best, and I look at his head and

mostly

> his eyes and ears and can only pray that it would get better on

its

> own. His head isnt the worst I guess, but his ears are off and his

> left eye is sligtly smaller looking and down/off to left more.

> Arrgghhh...

>

> So do I go against what most people think, or do I just trust it

will

> get better if so many say it will? Plus, he has mild torticollis,

and

> I have heard the weight of the band can make it worse.

>

> Here are the measurements I just got in the mail from CT:

>

> Cranial Width 123mm ~ mean

> Cranial Lenght 137mm ~ -2

> Cephalic Index 89.7 ~ +2

> Cranial Vault Asymmetry ~ 8mm

> Mid Face Asymmetry ~ 2mm

> Skull Base Asymmetry ~ 4mm

>

> And then at the bottom (fzR-euL)-(fzL-euR)= 6

>

> Not sure what that all means exactly, but what do you all think

about

> the banding. Especially since Childrens said dont. sees an

> Osteopath and Chiro (mentioned to you before I think). The Osteo

does

> Cranial Sacral manipulative Therapy on him. Gets the plates/bones

in

> his head moving the right way. I am wondering if the band would

> conteract or impede the work she would be doing by " holding " his

head

> a certain shape? She doesnt want him in a band either. Neither

does

> the Chiropractor. Man, I feel like if I did band him I would be

going

> against almost everyone else. Maybe hes not that bad and I am just

> being paranoid. I have a really good eye for things that are off.

I

> look at border in our house, or walls or pictures, and can tell if

> its off even slightly.

>

> We have an appointment I set up 2 weeks ago for an evaulation with

Dr

> Vicari at Childrens Glenview/Chicago. I was going to cancel, but

> maybe I will keep.

>

> So...what do you all think of his numbers? Should I band? Even

with

> OSteo treatment?

>

> Sorry for the long long post.. I am just lost as to what I should

do

> at this point. is 7 1/2 months old. I know I need to decide

> soon.

>

> Thanks,

> MIchelle

>

>

>

> For more plagio info

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One more thing...even if hair covers it, hair will not cover helmets

not fitting, glasses not fitting right, headaches, hearing or vision

issues. I thought the same thing...oh, hair will cover it but our

ped. specifically said that we need to make sure our son's head was

growing correctly to avoid the possibility of the above mentioned

issues.

>

> Hi ,

>

> I am sorry for all of the contradicting info you are getting. It

makes it really difficult to know if you are doing the right thing.

>

> My dtr is also 7.5 mo and will be casted for her docband on Tues

at CT in Mequon. Unlike your son, her CI was 100% (3 standard

deviations ), but she does not have any asym. She is also fortunate

not to have tort. complicating the situation. We were told she is

mild and we too were left on the fence on whether or not to band. I

can say that after repositioning for the last 3 mo, her brachy has

not improved. I guess this is why we decided to band. Yes, her

hair (she has a ton of it) hides the flatness, but we decided it was

a now or never decision that had to be made. We also went for a

second opinion at Hanger in Children's Hosp.-Milwaukee which

confirmed her measurements.

>

> Good luck. It is not an easy decision. Kelli

>

>

>

> Now I don't know what to do...'

>

> I now have two contradicting opinions and I dont know what to do...

>

> We had our consult earlier in the week at CT and they said he

> was " mild to moderate " and she said if we didnt do the band he

might

> get better and it prob wouldnt be very noticable once he had hair.

> She recommended the band, but did seem on the fence about it. He

has

> the facial asymmetry, so that helped with her recommending the

band.

>

> Then, yesterday, we went to Childrens in Milwaulkee WI and saw

> the Physicians Assistant in Dr Jensens office. She said he doesnt

> need a band. Not really even close. Said his head was off a

little,

> but not bad at all and repositioning as well as stretches (for the

> torticollis he has or doesnt have depending on who you talk to)

will

> help it even out. I asked her about his eyes/ears asymmetry and

she

> said its not that bad and that will get better too. She said the

> brain is growing and the head is still growing and moving. I told

her

> what Cranial Tech said, but she still said she doesnt think he

needs

> it. Then again, she also said they only usually recommend

> banding/helmets for moderate to severe, and she said he is mild.

>

> So now I dont know what to do. CT already got the go ahead from

> s pediatrician. Thats funny, cause he's the guy that each

visit

> said it will take care of itself, dont worry, dont band. They

faxed

> him the paperwork and had the prescription the next day. We havent

> even talked to him or seen him in a month..and I never told him we

> were going to CT. Wierd. Apparently the insurance will also cover

> it. They think at 100%. BUT...my husband, my MIL, my Mom, the

> Chiropractor, the Osteopath and the Cranialfacial clinic in

Wisconsin

> all say he doesnt need the band. The clinician CT " seemed " on the

> fence but said its prob still best, and I look at his head and

mostly

> his eyes and ears and can only pray that it would get better on

its

> own. His head isnt the worst I guess, but his ears are off and his

> left eye is sligtly smaller looking and down/off to left more.

> Arrgghhh...

>

> So do I go against what most people think, or do I just trust it

will

> get better if so many say it will? Plus, he has mild torticollis,

and

> I have heard the weight of the band can make it worse.

>

> Here are the measurements I just got in the mail from CT:

>

> Cranial Width 123mm ~ mean

> Cranial Lenght 137mm ~ -2

> Cephalic Index 89.7 ~ +2

> Cranial Vault Asymmetry ~ 8mm

> Mid Face Asymmetry ~ 2mm

> Skull Base Asymmetry ~ 4mm

>

> And then at the bottom (fzR-euL)-(fzL- euR)= 6

>

> Not sure what that all means exactly, but what do you all think

about

> the banding. Especially since Childrens said dont. sees an

> Osteopath and Chiro (mentioned to you before I think). The Osteo

does

> Cranial Sacral manipulative Therapy on him. Gets the plates/bones

in

> his head moving the right way. I am wondering if the band would

> conteract or impede the work she would be doing by " holding " his

head

> a certain shape? She doesnt want him in a band either. Neither

does

> the Chiropractor. Man, I feel like if I did band him I would be

going

> against almost everyone else. Maybe hes not that bad and I am just

> being paranoid. I have a really good eye for things that are off.

I

> look at border in our house, or walls or pictures, and can tell if

> its off even slightly.

>

> We have an appointment I set up 2 weeks ago for an evaulation with

Dr

> Vicari at Childrens Glenview/Chicago. I was going to cancel, but

> maybe I will keep.

>

> So...what do you all think of his numbers? Should I band? Even

with

> OSteo treatment?

>

> Sorry for the long long post.. I am just lost as to what I should

do

> at this point. is 7 1/2 months old. I know I need to decide

> soon.

>

> Thanks,

> MIchelle

>

>

>

>

>

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- I'm gonna give you MY opinion - so take it for what ever it is worth. I have been on this board for almost 2 years and have been moderating most of that. I had to FIGHT to get my daughter banded - she was mild/mod but had facial asym - she ended up in 2 bands to try and help the facial asym.

My thought for fighting for her was I wanted to get her the help she needed while I could - so that we wouldn't get to the other side of the treatment window only to be told it was too late to treat and we should have treated when we could have. ALL the dr's told me that she was fine, she would round out, no one is asymmetrical, yada, yada. WEll, here we are - my mild/mod baby who wore 2 bands and she STILL has plagio. I am SOOOO thankful that we did do what we could when we could so that I'm not kicking myself. IF you are given the chance to treat, I say go for it. These little ones are placed in our arms for us to take care of. If your heart deep down says to band then do it. I know for me my husband HATED that I was always talking about her head and wanting to poush for treatment when the dr said it would be fine - I took pictures of her head with her hair wet and showed him what I saw. When he saw it - he was on board too.

Also, please realize that the medical community isn't always band-friendly - and not up to speed with the treatment. They say no alot more then they say yes - even when they should be saying yes.

HTH!!!!

Jen and Luli - 26 months

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Now I don't know what to do...'

I now have two contradicting opinions and I dont know what to do...

We had our consult earlier in the week at CT and they said he

was "mild to moderate" and she said if we didnt do the band he might

get better and it prob wouldnt be very noticable once he had hair.

She recommended the band, but did seem on the fence about it. He has

the facial asymmetry, so that helped with her recommending the band.

Then, yesterday, we went to Childrens in Milwaulkee WI and saw

the Physicians Assistant in Dr Jensens office. She said he doesnt

need a band. Not really even close. Said his head was off a little,

but not bad at all and repositioning as well as stretches (for the

torticollis he has or doesnt have depending on who you talk to) will

help it even out. I asked her about his eyes/ears asymmetry and she

said its not that bad and that will get better too. She said the

brain is growing and the head is still growing and moving. I told her

what Cranial Tech said, but she still said she doesnt think he needs

it. Then again, she also said they only usually recommend

banding/helmets for moderate to severe, and she said he is mild.

So now I dont know what to do. CT already got the go ahead from

s pediatrician. Thats funny, cause he's the guy that each visit

said it will take care of itself, dont worry, dont band. They faxed

him the paperwork and had the prescription the next day. We havent

even talked to him or seen him in a month..and I never told him we

were going to CT. Wierd. Apparently the insurance will also cover

it. They think at 100%. BUT...my husband, my MIL, my Mom, the

Chiropractor, the Osteopath and the Cranialfacial clinic in Wisconsin

all say he doesnt need the band. The clinician CT "seemed" on the

fence but said its prob still best, and I look at his head and mostly

his eyes and ears and can only pray that it would get better on its

own. His head isnt the worst I guess, but his ears are off and his

left eye is sligtly smaller looking and down/off to left more.

Arrgghhh...

So do I go against what most people think, or do I just trust it will

get better if so many say it will? Plus, he has mild torticollis, and

I have heard the weight of the band can make it worse.

Here are the measurements I just got in the mail from CT:

Cranial Width 123mm ~ mean

Cranial Lenght 137mm ~ -2

Cephalic Index 89.7 ~ +2

Cranial Vault Asymmetry ~ 8mm

Mid Face Asymmetry ~ 2mm

Skull Base Asymmetry ~ 4mm

And then at the bottom (fzR-euL)-(fzL-euR)= 6

Not sure what that all means exactly, but what do you all think about

the banding. Especially since Childrens said dont. sees an

Osteopath and Chiro (mentioned to you before I think). The Osteo does

Cranial Sacral manipulative Therapy on him. Gets the plates/bones in

his head moving the right way. I am wondering if the band would

conteract or impede the work she would be doing by "holding" his head

a certain shape? She doesnt want him in a band either. Neither does

the Chiropractor. Man, I feel like if I did band him I would be going

against almost everyone else. Maybe hes not that bad and I am just

being paranoid. I have a really good eye for things that are off. I

look at border in our house, or walls or pictures, and can tell if

its off even slightly.

We have an appointment I set up 2 weeks ago for an evaulation with Dr

Vicari at Childrens Glenview/Chicago. I was going to cancel, but

maybe I will keep.

So...what do you all think of his numbers? Should I band? Even with

OSteo treatment?

Sorry for the long long post.. I am just lost as to what I should do

at this point. is 7 1/2 months old. I know I need to decide

soon.

Thanks,

MIchelle

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Thanks!

I am leaning more towards banding than not. I have been trying to feel OK with the idea that those who say it will round out on its own are right. But I feel like its a risk I don't want to take with our son. It would help if my hubby didn't seem like he is just saying ok for me, but I think I can live with that. So I will be praying on it over our vacation next week, and CT will call us with the answer from BCBS of IL Laborers Insurance when we get back. I wish I new more people who take their little ones to an Osteopath for manipulative/cranial work. But a few people seem to do it and the band together, so I guess it wouldn't hurt the work the Osteo does. I am worried that if she is trying to get the bones to move, and he has a helmet on, that it would restrict that in some way..... I may be over analyzing things.... but again, thanks for the support and advice!! I think my heart is telling me to do it.... :-)

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