Re: Re: Success with Derealization!

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Well, it makes sense that a lot of us would suffer from this. From the research that I have conducted, I found that thyroid hormone is needed to produce serotonin.  Serotonin is the neurotransmitter that puts us in the alpha brain wave frequency. This frequency is what seperates us from our inner selves to the outer world. So, if we're not producing and serotonin because of a thyroid/adrenal disorder, then our brains would not be able to distinguish between our own world to the real world and we would stay stuck in our own world.  Just my theory though...

 

altho I am NOT on t3 only treatment, I too have had

this problem occasionally

and once when I had left home in a hurry it was

severely when I discovered later that morning when I

got completely non-functional and just had to sit

quietly for a while as I was even unable to stand.

I had forgotten to take all my AM pills of HC &

thyroid and other meds...and I definitely attribute

this depersonalization to a deficiency of cortisol or

hydrocortisone,(

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From : keickholt13

Sent : 6/16/2010 4:52:46 PM

To : RT3_T3

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Subject : RE: Re: Success with Derealization!

That's great, !

The truth is that everyone experiences this once in a

while. They jsut shake it off and forget about it.

It's when it doesn't go away that the terror sets in.

-- Mike

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I used to wake up with adrenaline rushes all the time. I would wake drenched in sweat, shaking, confused.... I still wake constantly but am not sweating like I was Which is great, that was gross! I had only recently started hormone creams for progest, est, and test I think that helped.

I think I also had an RT3 clearnace. I have been feeling really anxious, upset, tired, fast heart rate, hot, etc. so I decreased my cynomel today from 100mcg to 75mcg, not sure how to progress with that though...

I was on the florinef for about a month before I started to decrease my HC.

I'm not sure why I don't get low cortisol overnight.... maybe I am just oblivious? who knows

I was also diagnosed with mild sleep apnea but refused the cpap machine...

I never tried sleeping meds. I can't tolerate mild things like benadryl, can't imagine the fatigue from ambien!

Kitty

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Fri, June 18, 2010 3:14:46 PMSubject: Re: Success with Derealization!

You lucky DOG!!!! :-))) I'm glad to find SOMEONE else who can't take t3 at bed, either. I thought I was the only person here. It just wakes me right up.I think I got gung ho and lowered the HC too fast once I started Florinef (which you warned me not to do!) and now I am getting adreanline rushes big time at night. So I went back to my old dose of HC today and hopefully I will sleep better now.But how could you sleep without HC when you were taking 45 during the day? You didn't get low cortisol at night? Maybe you had enough reserves to get through?I thought maybe my HPA axis kicks in at night and makes too high of cortisol but this waking up with heart pounding now seems more like adrenaline to me. Just waking constantly, that might be more high cortisol. Have you tried seriphos?I wanted to do a sleep study but it became apparent all they cared about was sleep apnea and restless leg syndrome, neither of which I

have. GRHHH. I was hoping maybe they'd test my cortisol and adrenaline (if you can test that) every time I wake up. I may see if I can get them to do that. If nothing else, it may help me qualify for rx Xyrem from a local GP. It's used for narcolepsy and off label for insomnia, but was undergoing FDA approval for insomnia last I heard.Ambien and Lunesta do nothing for me anymore and I read a post once by Val that when you're having an adrenaline rush, NOTHING will put you to sleep, which also makes me suspect adrenline rushes, but who knows. However, Xyrem works every time no matter what. Kathleen> > >> > > That is wonderful! I found great improvements with florinef as well My BF always talks about sodium in our bodies like a battery with low fluids. Without enough salt nothing can communicate leaving us all foggy, confused, aggitated etc. I am sure it will present differently from person to person but still the same idea generally. > > > Great to hear you feel so much better Kathleen

> > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > From: keickholt13 <keickholt13@>> > > To: RT3_T3 > > > Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 12:20:55 PM> > > Subject: Success with Derealization!> > > > > >  > > > I am posting this here and to the NTH Adreanl group since so many seem to suffer from this debilitating condition, which I will abbreviate as DP (for depersonalization, which is pretty much the same thing and most have both).> > > > > > Anyway, long story short, it went almost completely away once I increased my HC. Unfortunately, I had to take a

lot of HC due to my symptoms of shakiness, trembling, feeling spaced out all the time, feeling like I was going to "fade out." None of which helps with the DP of course.> > > > > > Well, I started Florinef about 1 week ago and MY GOD, the DP is TOTALLY GONE! In fact, I actually FLEW to Dallas and drove on the highway for 1 and 1/2 hours BY MYSELF! I stayed in a hotel by myself. :-) Yes, I had a few moments of anxiety here and there and some spaciness, which I attribute to the stress of traveling and how hot it was causing some salt loss, but overall, the trip went off without a hitch and I'm home without a trace of DP left.> > > > > > I actually think the Florinef helped the DP. Why? I don't know for sure. Maybe it's because Florinef helps with being spaced out or dizzy due to electrolyte imbalances and those sorts of things really aggravate DP. Or maybe it's just that ANY insufficiency of adrenal

hormones leads to anxiety and anxiety = DP. I truly believe that DP CANNOT exist if there is no anxiety.> > > > > > Anyway, for anyone suffering from this condition of DP, please hang in there! And get those dern adrenals fixed. :-)> > > > > > Kathleen> > >> >>