Re: TSH and T3-only treatment

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Your docotr is wrong. TSH is VERY sensitive to T3. Mine is .005 and I

am on T3 only wiht FT4 of .2 the last time I checked it.

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I have hashi's and need to keep my thyroid suppressed. I'm

hoping T3 alone keeps the tsh down to a dull roar. My last tsh lab on

naturethroid was .002

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by: "martimusm" martimusm@... martimusm

Mon

Jun 21, 2010 10:08 am (PDT)

Last week I saw my doctor and he said my labs below where weird because

TSH shouldn't be so low taking only T3. He explained me that TSH is

regulated by the amount of T4 and that having so little T4 in my body,

my TSH should be higher. He said that therefore my labs indicated I

have secondary hypothyroidism instead of primary. Is this true?? Does

this make any sense or is he just talking nonsense???

Is my TSH really abnormally low according to the labs below?

at 37.5 T3 (12/13 hours after last T3 dose); 27.5 HC:

TSH: less than 0.01 uU/ml (0.3-4.5)

Total T4: 2.28 ug/dl (4.5-12.0)

Free T4: 0.29 ng/dl (0.71-1.9)

Total T3: 2.68 ng/ml (0.8-2.0)

Free T3 : 3.88 pmol/L (2.63-5.7)

Thanks a lot,

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Kem in Eugene

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BUMP - mods can you please answer my last question on this thread?

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> > > I have hashi's and need to keep my thyroid suppressed. I'm hoping T3

> > > alone keeps the tsh down to a dull roar. My last tsh lab on

> > > naturethroid was .002

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> > > <<Posted by: " martimusm " martimusm@

> > > <mailto:martimusm@?Subject=%20Re%3ATSH%20and%20T3-only%20treatment>

> > > martimusm <http://profiles.yahoo.com/martimusm>

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> > > Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:08 am (PDT)

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> > > Last week I saw my doctor and he said my labs below where weird

> > > because TSH shouldn't be so low taking only T3. He explained me that

> > > TSH is regulated by the amount of T4 and that having so little T4 in

> > > my body, my TSH should be higher. He said that therefore my labs

> > > indicated I have secondary hypothyroidism instead of primary. Is this

> > > true?? Does this make any sense or is he just talking nonsense???

> > > Is my TSH really abnormally low according to the labs below?

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> > > at 37.5 T3 (12/13 hours after last T3 dose); 27.5 HC:

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> > > TSH: less than 0.01 uU/ml (0.3-4.5)

> > > Total T4: 2.28 ug/dl (4.5-12.0)

> > > Free T4: 0.29 ng/dl (0.71-1.9)

> > > Total T3: 2.68 ng/ml (0.8-2.0)

> > > Free T3 : 3.88 pmol/L (2.63-5.7)

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot,

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> > >

> > > Kem in Eugene

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[Guest guest]

>Does this make any sense or is he just talking nonsense???

another Dr needs retraining, TSH levels respond happily to T3 levels!

>Is my TSH really abnormally low according to the labs below?

about 0,01 is typical, looks like your lab can't measure below that

Looks OK to me

Nick

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>tsh - 0.21 (0.4-3)

>ft4 - 1.8 (0.9-1.8)

>ft3 - 1.5 (1.8-4.2)

depends what meds you were on. FT4 much too high causing large amounts

of RT3 production, you are very hypo from FT3.

TSH is not a reliable marker of being correctly treated

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>Ft4 at the top of the range, ft3 below bottom range and deprresed tsh. Don't

think it was my t3 that made the tsh ao low, so it must be the t4. So - what

determains the level of tsh - t4 or t3? could it be both?

Both I think

>If tsh was sensitive to t3, why was my tsh so low while t3 was so low asweel?

The T4 is keeping it down

>And after I got these labs you guys explained to me that my labs prove what you

are talking about - tsh showing hyper while not enough t3 gets to the cells.

You are not hyper, TSH is normally misinterpreted!!!

You are not reliably converting T4 to T4, were you on T4 only meds

then???

Nick

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Hi NickYes, I was on t4 only when I did the test. And My rt3 was at the top of the range, and that is how I learned I have resistence from rt3. Okay, so if both t3 and t4 can suppress tsh then I understand why my and monica have opposite results and we both have suppresed tsh. Thanks I know I am very hypo. Week 8 of t3 onlyTo: RT3_T3 Sent: Tue, June 22, 2010 1:27:20 PMSubject: Re: Re: TSH and T3-only treatment

>tsh - 0.21 (0.4-3)

>ft4 - 1.8 (0.9-1.8)

>ft3 - 1.5 (1.8-4.2)

depends what meds you were on. FT4 much too high causing large amounts

of RT3 production, you are very hypo from FT3.

TSH is not a reliable marker of being correctly treated

>

>Ft4 at the top of the range, ft3 below bottom range and deprresed tsh. Don't think it was my t3 that made the tsh ao low, so it must be the t4. So - what determains the level of tsh - t4 or t3? could it be both?

Both I think

>If tsh was sensitive to t3, why was my tsh so low while t3 was so low asweel?

The T4 is keeping it down

>And after I got these labs you guys explained to me that my labs prove what you are talking about - tsh showing hyper while not enough t3 gets to the cells.

You are not hyper, TSH is normally misinterpreted!!!

You are not reliably converting T4 to T4, were you on T4 only meds

then???

Nick

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for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

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Thanks a lot to moderators and other contributors. I have learned a lot. I have

tried T4-only, NTH and T3-only meds and all were very effective lowering my TSH

so even though I have no clue about what is the precise mechanism underlying TSH

suppression my personal experience points towards both T4 and T3 lowering TSH.