Re: New labs - input please

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Your iron is GOOD. I would reduce supplemnets WAY down at this point as

your saturation is over recommended levels adn serum iron is highish.

Your T3 is pretty good but wil need to come up as you need over range

FT3 when on T3 onyl to compensate for supressed T4 levels.

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> I just got some new labs that I would like input on. I was on 62.5 mcg cynomel

and Isocort 4-3-2-1 at the time of the test (no meds morning of blood draw).

Date of all is 06/14/10 unless otherwise noted.

>

> Iron:

> Iron, total: 160 (40-175 mcg/dL)

> Iron binding capacity: 345 (250-450 mcg/dL)

> % saturation: 46 (15-50%)

> Ferritin: 72

>

> Do these show inflammation or am I FINALLY getting this darn ferritin where it

needs to be? I was on 170mg EI daily for 4 months but iron fasted 5 days prior.

>

> Electrolytes:

> Sodium: 140 (135-146 mmol/L)

> Potassium: 4.2 (3.5-5.3 mmol/L)

>

> I had a CMP so I can post anything else that might be helpful. I am supping

1500 K-Dur and 1/2 t sea salt 2-3x daily. Anything I should change?

>

> Thyroid:

> TSH: 0.02 mIU/L

> T3, free: 449 (230-420 pg/dL)

>

> Incomplete, I know. Last reverse T3 on 04/06/10 was 95 (90-350 pg/ml) so I

should be well on my way to clearing that out. Last FT4 on 01/20/10 was 1.2

(0.8-1.8 ng/dl). Can the new labs tell anything?

>

> Sex hormones:

> Progesterone: 3.5 (3.3-26.0) **taken day before cycle started, 06/14/10

> Estradiol: 92 (18-480 pg/ml) **01/20/10

> Testosterone, total: 26 (2-45 ng/dL) **01/20/10

> Testoterone, free: 2.4 (0.1-6.4 pg/mL) **01/20/10

> Pregnenolone: 88 (7-188 ng/dL) **01/20/10

>

> Progesterone has fallen from 21.1 (01/20/10) to 7.7 (04/06/10) to 3.5

(06/14/10). My doc has prescribed 100mg P but I stopped taking it after the

first month. Thoughts on these? I still have plenty of 100mg P and now some

150mg P on hand.

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> All help is appreciated!

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Val - thanks! That is GREAT news on the iron. I will drop it down to 85mg IE

per day (unless 42.5 would be better?). I don't want to lose a decent ferritin

level after working so hard to get it up. It does make me feel better when I am

taking some.

I will keep raising T3 weekly. I think I can probably stand to take a little

more as the 12.5mcg every 4 hours seems to be " wearing off " sooner than I would

like (i.e. I start feeling a little hypo). Temps are averaging right around

98.5'ish and are stable so I am almost where I need to be, I think. I am

currently up to 68.75.

Any thoughts on electrolytes (p: 4.2, s: 140) or the low progesterone?

Thanks again!

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> Your iron is GOOD. I would reduce supplemnets WAY down at this point as

> your saturation is over recommended levels adn serum iron is highish.

> Your T3 is pretty good but wil need to come up as you need over range

> FT3 when on T3 onyl to compensate for supressed T4 levels.

>

>

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://faqhelp.webs.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> http://artisticgrooming.net/

> > Electrolytes:

> > Sodium: 140 (135-146 mmol/L)

> > Potassium: 4.2 (3.5-5.3 mmol/L)

> >

> > I had a CMP so I can post anything else that might be helpful. I am supping

1500 K-Dur and 1/2 t sea salt 2-3x daily. Anything I should change?

> >

> > Sex hormones:

> > Progesterone: 3.5 (3.3-26.0) **taken day before cycle started, 06/14/10

> > Estradiol: 92 (18-480 pg/ml) **01/20/10

> > Testosterone, total: 26 (2-45 ng/dL) **01/20/10

> > Testoterone, free: 2.4 (0.1-6.4 pg/mL) **01/20/10

> > Pregnenolone: 88 (7-188 ng/dL) **01/20/10

> >

> > Progesterone has fallen from 21.1 (01/20/10) to 7.7 (04/06/10) to 3.5

(06/14/10). My doc has prescribed 100mg P but I stopped taking it after the

first month. Thoughts on these? I still have plenty of 100mg P and now some

150mg P on hand.

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> > All help is appreciated!

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> > in LA

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[Guest guest]

I think 42.5 would be enough with your T3 where it is. The T3 will help

you hold onto that good level of iron. Yeah the wearing off symptoms

definitly indicates T3 is still too low as you buld to a better dose

those symptoms between doses stop happening. Your electrolytes look fine

btu mayebe bit of sea salt or more if you are already taking it as in

the summer heat we ALL need more. The progesterone you probvably shoudl

raise a bti btu dobe careful as it cna afect cortiosl and you don;t need

o trock the boat right now.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

> Val - thanks! That is GREAT news on the iron. I will drop it down to 85mg IE

per day (unless 42.5 would be better?). I don't want to lose a decent ferritin

level after working so hard to get it up. It does make me feel better when I am

taking some.

>

> I will keep raising T3 weekly. I think I can probably stand to take a little

more as the 12.5mcg every 4 hours seems to be " wearing off " sooner than I would

like (i.e. I start feeling a little hypo). Temps are averaging right around

98.5'ish and are stable so I am almost where I need to be, I think. I am

currently up to 68.75.

>

> Any thoughts on electrolytes (p: 4.2, s: 140) or the low progesterone?

>

> Thanks again!

>

>

>

>> Your iron is GOOD. I would reduce supplemnets WAY down at this point as

>> your saturation is over recommended levels adn serum iron is highish.

>> Your T3 is pretty good but wil need to come up as you need over range

>> FT3 when on T3 onyl to compensate for supressed T4 levels.

>>

>>

>>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>> http://faqhelp.webs.com/

>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>> http://artisticgrooming.net/

>>

>>> Electrolytes:

>>> Sodium: 140 (135-146 mmol/L)

>>> Potassium: 4.2 (3.5-5.3 mmol/L)

>>>

>>> I had a CMP so I can post anything else that might be helpful. I am supping

1500 K-Dur and 1/2 t sea salt 2-3x daily. Anything I should change?

>>>

>>> Sex hormones:

>>> Progesterone: 3.5 (3.3-26.0) **taken day before cycle started, 06/14/10

>>> Estradiol: 92 (18-480 pg/ml) **01/20/10

>>> Testosterone, total: 26 (2-45 ng/dL) **01/20/10

>>> Testoterone, free: 2.4 (0.1-6.4 pg/mL) **01/20/10

>>> Pregnenolone: 88 (7-188 ng/dL) **01/20/10

>>>

>>> Progesterone has fallen from 21.1 (01/20/10) to 7.7 (04/06/10) to 3.5

(06/14/10). My doc has prescribed 100mg P but I stopped taking it after the

first month. Thoughts on these? I still have plenty of 100mg P and now some

150mg P on hand.

>>>

>>> All help is appreciated!

>>>

>>> in LA

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>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Great--thanks for letting me know about the iron, Val. (And can I say a big

WHOOHOO here!) It will save me a mint on iron supplements! How much

progesterone would you recommend? I have 100mg and 150mg caps and I can always

get cream as well. Use for first 2 weeks of the cycle starting the first day of

the period then off for 2 weeks?

One last thing...my pulse seems to me to be rather rapid. It ranges between 85

and 100--on the lower end when I have supplemented heavily with sea salt (2 t

per day or so). I am 43, 50 pounds overweight, and not terribly active for

about a year, although I am planning to start exercising again soon since my

adrenals seem to be shaping up. I worry a little about increasing T3 with a

rapid pulse. BP normal and stable, temps stable, basal 98'ish, daily average

98.5. I am in week 18 of T3 only but the first 14 weeks were SRT3. Any

suggestions?

>

> I think 42.5 would be enough with your T3 where it is. The T3 will help

> you hold onto that good level of iron. Yeah the wearing off symptoms

> definitly indicates T3 is still too low as you buld to a better dose

> those symptoms between doses stop happening. Your electrolytes look fine

> btu mayebe bit of sea salt or more if you are already taking it as in

> the summer heat we ALL need more. The progesterone you probvably shoudl

> raise a bti btu dobe careful as it cna afect cortiosl and you don;t need

> o trock the boat right now.

>

>

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://faqhelp.webs.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> http://artisticgrooming.net/

> >

> >>> I am supping 1500 K-Dur and 1/2 t sea salt 2-3x daily. Anything I should

change?

> >>>

> >>> Sex hormones:

> >>> Progesterone: 3.5 (3.3-26.0) **taken day before cycle started, 06/14/10

> >>> Estradiol: 92 (18-480 pg/ml) **01/20/10

> >>> Testosterone, total: 26 (2-45 ng/dL) **01/20/10

> >>> Testoterone, free: 2.4 (0.1-6.4 pg/mL) **01/20/10

> >>> Pregnenolone: 88 (7-188 ng/dL) **01/20/10

> >>>

> >>> Progesterone has fallen from 21.1 (01/20/10) to 7.7 (04/06/10) to 3.5

(06/14/10). My doc has prescribed 100mg P but I stopped taking it after the

first month. Thoughts on these? I still have plenty of 100mg P and now some

150mg P on hand.

[Guest guest]

Progesterone shoudl be used the SECOND half of your cyucle and I would

nto use over 100mg.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

> Great--thanks for letting me know about the iron, Val. (And can I say a big

WHOOHOO here!) It will save me a mint on iron supplements! How much

progesterone would you recommend? I have 100mg and 150mg caps and I can always

get cream as well. Use for first 2 weeks of the cycle starting the first day of

the period then off for 2 weeks?

>

> One last thing...my pulse seems to me to be rather rapid. It ranges between

85 and 100--on the lower end when I have supplemented heavily with sea salt (2 t

per day or so). I am 43, 50 pounds overweight, and not terribly active for

about a year, although I am planning to start exercising again soon since my

adrenals seem to be shaping up. I worry a little about increasing T3 with a

rapid pulse. BP normal and stable, temps stable, basal 98'ish, daily average

98.5. I am in week 18 of T3 only but the first 14 weeks were SRT3. Any

suggestions?

>

>

>

>

>

>> I think 42.5 would be enough with your T3 where it is. The T3 will help

>> you hold onto that good level of iron. Yeah the wearing off symptoms

>> definitly indicates T3 is still too low as you buld to a better dose

>> those symptoms between doses stop happening. Your electrolytes look fine

>> btu mayebe bit of sea salt or more if you are already taking it as in

>> the summer heat we ALL need more. The progesterone you probvably shoudl

>> raise a bti btu dobe careful as it cna afect cortiosl and you don;t need

>> o trock the boat right now.

>>

>>

>>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>> http://faqhelp.webs.com/

>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>> http://artisticgrooming.net/

>>

>>>

>>>>> I am supping 1500 K-Dur and 1/2 t sea salt 2-3x daily. Anything I should

change?

>>>>>

>>>>> Sex hormones:

>>>>> Progesterone: 3.5 (3.3-26.0) **taken day before cycle started, 06/14/10

>>>>> Estradiol: 92 (18-480 pg/ml) **01/20/10

>>>>> Testosterone, total: 26 (2-45 ng/dL) **01/20/10

>>>>> Testoterone, free: 2.4 (0.1-6.4 pg/mL) **01/20/10

>>>>> Pregnenolone: 88 (7-188 ng/dL) **01/20/10

>>>>>

>>>>> Progesterone has fallen from 21.1 (01/20/10) to 7.7 (04/06/10) to 3.5

(06/14/10). My doc has prescribed 100mg P but I stopped taking it after the

first month. Thoughts on these? I still have plenty of 100mg P and now some

150mg P on hand.

>>>>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences.

Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups

Links

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Val,So does that mean that one should not take a mixed compounded cream with estrogen, progesterone and testosterone?LizR Re: Re: New labs - input pleaseTo: RT3_T3 > Progesterone shoudl be used the SECOND half of your cyucle and I > would > nto use over 100mg.> > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://faqhelp.webs.com/> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/> http://artisticgrooming.net/> > > > > Great--thanks for letting me know about the iron, Val. (And > can I say a big WHOOHOO here!) It will save me a mint on iron > supplements! How much progesterone would you recommend? I have > 100mg and 150mg caps and I can always get cream as well. Use > for first 2 weeks of the cycle starting the first day of the > period then off for 2 weeks?> >> > One last thing...my pulse seems to me to be rather rapid. It > ranges between 85 and 100--on the lower end when I have > supplemented heavily with sea salt (2 t per day or so). I am > 43, 50 pounds overweight, and not terribly active for about a > year, although I am planning to start exercising again soon > since my adrenals seem to be shaping up. I worry a little about > increasing T3 with a rapid pulse. BP normal and stable, temps > stable, basal 98'ish, daily average 98.5. I am in week 18 of T3 > only but the first 14 weeks were SRT3. Any suggestions?> >> > > >> > > > >> I think 42.5 would be enough with your T3 where it is. The T3 > will help> >> you hold onto that good level of iron. Yeah the wearing off > symptoms>> definitly indicates T3 is still too low as you buld > to a better dose> >> those symptoms between doses stop happening. Your > electrolytes look fine> >> btu mayebe bit of sea salt or more if you are already taking > it as in> >> the summer heat we ALL need more. The progesterone you > probvably shoudl> >> raise a bti btu dobe careful as it cna afect cortiosl and you > don;t need> >> o trock the boat right now.> >>> >> > >> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/>> http://faqhelp.webs.com/> >> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/> >> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/> >> http://artisticgrooming.net/> >> > >>> > >>>>> I am supping 1500 K-Dur and 1/2 t sea salt 2-3x daily. > Anything I should change?> >>>>>> >>>>> Sex hormones:> >>>>> Progesterone: 3.5 (3.3-26.0) **taken day before cycle > started, 06/14/10> >>>>> Estradiol: 92 (18-480 pg/ml) **01/20/10> >>>>> Testosterone, total: 26 (2-45 ng/dL) **01/20/10> >>>>> Testoterone, free: 2.4 (0.1-6.4 pg/mL) **01/20/10> >>>>> Pregnenolone: 88 (7-188 ng/dL) **01/20/10> >>>>>> >>>>> Progesterone has fallen from 21.1 (01/20/10) to 7.7 > (04/06/10) to 3.5 (06/14/10). My doc has prescribed 100mg P but > I stopped taking it after the first month. Thoughts on these? > I still have plenty of 100mg P and now some 150mg P on hand.> >>>>> > >> >> >> > ------------------------------------> >> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing > our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a > competent doctor.

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I htink those mixed creams shoudl be outlawed! In the first place,

what if you react to ONE of them? You wil nto knwo which one and may

comclude you can't take any of them. What if you need to adjust ONE and

nto the other two?

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Val,

So does that mean that one should not take a mixed compounded cream

with estrogen, progesterone and testosterone?

LizR

Re: Re: New labs - input please

To: RT3_T3

> Progesterone shoudl be used the SECOND half of your cyucle and I

> would

> nto use over 100mg.

>

>

>

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> http://artisticgrooming.net/

>

>

>

> > Great--thanks for letting me know about the iron, Val. (And

> can I say a big WHOOHOO here!) It will save me a mint on iron

> supplements! How much progesterone would you recommend? I have

> 100mg and 150mg caps and I can always get cream as well. Use

> for first 2 weeks of the cycle starting the first day of the

> period then off for 2 weeks?

> >

> > One last thing...my pulse seems to me to be rather rapid. It

> ranges between 85 and 100--on the lower end when I have

> supplemented heavily with sea salt (2 t per day or so). I am

> 43, 50 pounds overweight, and not terribly active for about a

> year, although I am planning to start exercising again soon

> since my adrenals seem to be shaping up. I worry a little about

> increasing T3 with a rapid pulse. BP normal and stable, temps

> stable, basal 98'ish, daily average 98.5. I am in week 18 of T3

> only but the first 14 weeks were SRT3. Any suggestions?

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> >> I think 42.5 would be enough with your T3 where it is.

The T3

> will help

> >> you hold onto that good level of iron. Yeah the wearing

off

> symptoms>> definitly indicates T3 is still too low as you

buld

> to a better dose

> >> those symptoms between doses stop happening. Your

> electrolytes look fine

> >> btu mayebe bit of sea salt or more if you are already

taking

> it as in

> >> the summer heat we ALL need more. The progesterone you

> probvably shoudl

> >> raise a bti btu dobe careful as it cna afect cortiosl and

you

> don;t need

> >> o trock the boat right now.

> >>

> >> Valer ie

> >>

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/>>

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

> >> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> >> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> >> http://artisticgrooming.net/

> >>

> >>>

> >>>>> I am supping 1500 K-Dur and 1/2 t sea salt

2-3x daily.

> Anything I should change?

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Sex hormones:

> >>>>> Progesterone: 3.5 (3.3-26.0) **taken day

before cycle

> started, 06/14/10

> >>>>> Estradiol: 92 (18-480 pg/ml) **01/20/10

> >>>>> Testosterone, total: 26 (2-45 ng/dL)

**01/20/10< br>> >>>>> Testoterone, free: 2.4

(0.1-6.4 pg/mL) **01/20/10

> >>>>> Pregnenolone: 88 (7-188 ng/dL) **01/20/10

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Progesterone has fallen from 21.1 (01/20/10)

to 7.7

> (04/06/10) to 3.5 (06/14/10). My doc has prescribed 100mg P but

> I stopped taking it after the first month. Thoughts on these?

> I still have plenty of 100mg P and now some 150mg P on hand.

> >>>>>

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing

> our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a

> competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Understood. So my blood labs were done and the doctor prescribed this mixed cream and wants to re-test levels in 3 mos. I was thinking exactly what you are saying, of course, she would say that the labs would tell what was going on. So what would be a good response to her that I don't think the mixed is a good idea?Thanks, Liz-----> I htink those mixed creams shoudl be outlawed! In the first > place, what > if you react to ONE of them? You wil nto knwo which one and may > comclude > you can't take any of them. What if you need to adjust ONE and > nto the > other two?> > > > >>>>>

[Guest guest]

I woudl simply tell her you prefer them individually so you can start

them separately in case of a reaction.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Understood. So my blood labs were done and the doctor prescribed this

mixed cream and wants to re-test levels in 3 mos. I was thinking

exactly what you are saying, of course, she would say that the labs

would tell what was going on. So what would be a good response to her

that I don't think the mixed is a good idea?

Thanks, Liz

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> I htink those mixed creams shoudl be outlawed! In the first

> place, what

> if you react to ONE of them? You wil nto knwo which one and may

> comclude

> you can't take any of them. What if you need to adjust ONE and

> nto the

> other two?

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