Ready to throw in the towel!!!

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I have beeen on T3 only for 6 weeks. I think my adrenals have shut down as I

have horrible energy during the day after having a very stressful weekend. I

thought my adrenals were pretty stable, but now I am having second thoughts.

Also I am concerned as I just read an article from the American Thyroid

Association that discusses T3 only treatment. Because I feel so bad, I'm

getting worried that I'm hurting myself somehow. My temperatures range from

95.5 first thing in the morning to 98.0 if I'm lucky around 5:00 pm. They

average about 97.0.

Yesterday after trying to figure out my energy issues, I decided to get some HC

cream. I'm not sure how to dose this? I also was thinking of ordering some

Isocort. Should I ween off T3 and start on some kind of adrenal support?

Thank you,

Beckey

[Guest guest]

Beckey,Would you post that article please or the link to it? I have been on T3 only, for a year at least. I have to say this is the best I have felt in many years. That is not to say I don't have some not so good days but I would not go back to a T4/T3 med. Certainly not just a T4 med. Anyway, I would be interested in what they had to say.Thanks,VeniziaSubject: Ready to throw in the towel!!!To: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 1:40 PM

Hello,

I have beeen on T3 only for 6 weeks. I think my adrenals have shut down as I have horrible energy during the day after having a very stressful weekend. I thought my adrenals were pretty stable, but now I am having second thoughts. Also I am concerned as I just read an article from the American Thyroid Association that discusses T3 only treatment. Because I feel so bad, I'm getting worried that I'm hurting myself somehow. My temperatures range from 95.5 first thing in the morning to 98.0 if I'm lucky around 5:00 pm. They average about 97.0.

Yesterday after trying to figure out my energy issues, I decided to get some HC cream. I'm not sure how to dose this? I also was thinking of ordering some Isocort. Should I ween off T3 and start on some kind of adrenal support?

Thank you,

Beckey

[Guest guest]

Becky I would NEVER recommend any kind of adrenal support wihtout first

doing saliva cortisol labs. The reason fo rthis si that lwo and high

cortils share mny of the same symptoms. You can HURT your adrenals by

taking a supplement incorrectly especially anything that contains cortisol.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

> Hello,

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> I have beeen on T3 only for 6 weeks. I think my adrenals have shut down as I

have horrible energy during the day after having a very stressful weekend. I

thought my adrenals were pretty stable, but now I am having second thoughts.

Also I am concerned as I just read an article from the American Thyroid

Association that discusses T3 only treatment. Because I feel so bad, I'm

getting worried that I'm hurting myself somehow. My temperatures range from

95.5 first thing in the morning to 98.0 if I'm lucky around 5:00 pm. They

average about 97.0.

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> Yesterday after trying to figure out my energy issues, I decided to get some

HC cream. I'm not sure how to dose this? I also was thinking of ordering some

Isocort. Should I ween off T3 and start on some kind of adrenal support?

>

> Thank you,

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> Beckey

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> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences.

Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups

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[Guest guest]

I had a saliva test done, but it was last year. At that time they were:

6-8am 25 elevated range 13-24

11-12 3 depressed range 5-10

4-5pm 7 normal range 3-8

10-mid 19 elevated range 1-4

For this reason, I take zinc and holy basel at night. I think I need to supplement with something in the middle of the day. My overall cortisol burden is 54 with the reference range 23-42.

I know I should retake my saliva test, but I don't want to stop the supplements for fear of how bad I might feel. My worst time is during the hours of 10-4 during the day. I just want to crawl into bed. If I have work to do, I can do it, but if I don't, I'm like a zombie. I think the work gets my cortisol flowing enough that I can function and not feel as bad.

Thanks for all your advice.

Beckey

> Hello,>> I have beeen on T3 only for 6 weeks. I think my adrenals have shut down as I have horrible energy during the day after having a very stressful weekend. I thought my adrenals were pretty stable, but now I am having second thoughts. Also I am concerned as I just read an article from the American Thyroid Association that discusses T3 only treatment. Because I feel so bad, I'm getting worried that I'm hurting myself somehow. My temperatures range from 95.5 first thing in the morning to 98.0 if I'm lucky around 5:00 pm. They average about 97.0.>> Yesterday after trying to figure out my energy issues, I decided to get some HC cream. I'm not sure how to dose this? I also was thinking of ordering some Isocort. Should I ween off T3 and start on some kind of adrenal

support?>> Thank you,>> Beckey>>>>>> ------------------------------------>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Wel we shoudl take this ot the adrenals group btu as it is closing

tonight for a week break, I will answer it here. First, taking T3 wil

lower high cortisol. It literally uses it up. As you continued ot take

cortiosllowering herbalsk AND T3 ther eis a good possibility this

progressed from a stage three where it WAS to a possible four now. Have

you lookd tha tthe differnt staged of adrenl fatigue? It progresses

very differntly from stage three to four. coritlls DROPS. I would stop

your supplements immediately. Your symtpoms are of lwo not high

cortis.. Have you checked BP recently? That may help sort it out but I

woud urge you to get another saliva test ASAP to KNOW what has changed

in this last year.

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http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

I had a saliva test done, but it was last year.  At that

time they were:

 

6-8am 25 elevated  range 13-24

11-12  3  depressed range 5-10

4-5pm 7 normal range 3-8

10-mid 19 elevated range 1-4

 

For this reason, I take zinc and holy basel at night.  I

think I need to supplement with something in the middle of the day.  My

overall cortisol burden is 54 with the reference range 23-42.

 

I know I should retake my saliva test, but I don't want to

stop the supplements for fear of how bad I might feel.  My worst time

is during the hours of 10-4 during the day.  I just want to crawl into

bed.  If I have work to do, I can do it, but if I don't, I'm like a

zombie.  I think the work gets my cortisol flowing enough that I can

function and not feel as bad.

 

Thanks for all your advice.

 

Beckey

 

> Hello,

>

> I have beeen on T3 only for 6 weeks. I think my adrenals have shut

down as I have horrible energy during the day after having a very

stressful weekend. I thought my adrenals were pretty stable, but now I

am having second thoughts. Also I am concerned as I just read an

article from the American Thyroid Association that discusses T3 only

treatment. Because I feel so bad, I'm getting worried that I'm hurting

myself somehow. My temperatures range from 95.5 first thing in the

morning to 98.0 if I'm lucky around 5:00 pm. They average about 97.0.

>

> Yesterday after trying to figure out my energy issues, I decided

to get some HC cream. I'm not sure how to dose this? I also was

thinking of ordering some Isocort. Should I ween off T3 and start on

some kind of adrenal support?

>

> Thank you,

>

> Beckey

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>

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> ------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent

doctor.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Val, what you are saying makes sense. That's why when I have my low day time cortisol, it is even worse because of the T3 using it all up. I was only taking the Zinc and Holy Basal at night thinking it would help my high night time and morning levels and this would allow my midday levels more.

I think I read I need to be off all supplements for 2 weeks before saliva cortisol testing? What should I do about my T3 dosing?

Thank you, your advice is invaluable to me!

[Guest guest]

I would reduce it a bit to lower adrenal stress adn just tyr to find as

comfortable dose to hold as you can.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Thanks Val, what you are saying makes sense. That's why

when I have my low day time cortisol, it is even worse because of the

T3 using it all up. I was only taking the Zinc and Holy Basal at night

thinking it would help my high night time and morning levels and this

would allow my midday levels more.

I think I read I need to be off all supplements for 2

weeks before saliva cortisol testing? What should I do about my T3

dosing?

Thank you, your advice is invaluable to me!

[Guest guest]

Hi Venizia,

Good to hear from you again. I was on this group for a long time, but not really even reading. I was trying to get myself to some reasonable condition, was having trouble even getting tested, and finally got my rheumy to do the testing and start the T3.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

Subject: Ready to throw in the towel!!!To: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 1:40 PM

Hello,I have beeen on T3 only for 6 weeks. I think my adrenals have shut down as I have horrible energy during the day after having a very stressful weekend. I thought my adrenals were pretty stable, but now I am having second thoughts. Also I am concerned as I just read an article from the American Thyroid Association that discusses T3 only treatment. Because I feel so bad, I'm getting worried that I'm hurting myself somehow. My temperatures range from 95.5 first thing in the morning to 98.0 if I'm lucky around 5:00 pm. They average about 97.0.Yesterday after trying to figure out my energy issues, I decided to get some HC cream. I'm not sure how to dose this? I also was thinking of ordering some Isocort. Should I ween off T3 and start on some kind of adrenal support?Thank you,Beckey

[Guest guest]

Who does this type of adrenal testing? Will the doctor do it?(order it?) Will medicare pay for it?

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>> Hello,>> I have beeen on T3 only for 6 weeks. I think my adrenals have shut down as I have horrible energy during the day after having a very stressful weekend. I thought my adrenals were pretty stable, but now I am having second thoughts. Also I am concerned as I just read an

article from the American Thyroid Association that discusses T3 only treatment. Because I feel so bad, I'm getting worried that I'm hurting myself somehow. My temperatures range from 95.5 first thing in the morning to 98.0 if I'm lucky around 5:00 pm. They average about 97.0.>> Yesterday after trying to figure out my energy issues, I decided to get some HC cream. I'm not sure how to dose this? I also was thinking of ordering some Isocort. Should I ween off T3 and start on some kind of adrenal support?>> Thank you,>> Beckey>>>>>> ------------------------------------>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Hi Roni!!I think you will find this group extremely helpful. We have Val, of course and we have Nick and Margery as mods. I hope you do find answers to your issues. I know you have been dealing with them for a long time.I am doing very well. Although I think this is an on going disease, we can find ways to help us get through our days feeling SO MUCH better.Good to hear from you again!Venizia

From: Beckey <bbottel (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net>Subject: Ready to throw in the towel!!!To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 1:40 PM

Hello,I have beeen on T3 only for 6 weeks. I think my adrenals have shut down as I have horrible energy during the day after having a very stressful weekend. I thought my adrenals were pretty stable, but now I am having second thoughts. Also I am concerned as I just read an article from the American Thyroid Association that discusses T3 only treatment. Because I feel so bad, I'm getting worried that I'm hurting myself somehow. My temperatures range from 95.5 first thing in the morning to 98.0 if I'm lucky around 5:00 pm. They average about 97.0.Yesterday after trying to figure out my energy issues, I decided to get some HC cream. I'm not sure how to dose this? I also was thinking of ordering some Isocort. Should I ween off T3 and start on some kind of adrenal support?Thank you,Beckey

[Guest guest]

Beckey, you said:

" decided to get some HC cream. I'm not sure how to

dose this? I also was thinking of ordering some

Isocort. Should I ween off T3 and start on some kind

of adrenal support? "

I think there's some instrictions in the files

section of the yahoo group ...might be the thyroid

adrenal group, or this one....on how to dose the cream

-- Ready to throw in the towel!!!

To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 1:40 PM

Hello,

I have beeen on T3 only for 6 weeks. I think my

adrenals have shut down as I have horrible energy

during the day after having a very stressful weekend.

I thought my adrenals were pretty stable, but now I

am having second thoughts. Also I am concerned as I

just read an article from the American Thyroid

Association that discusses T3 only treatment. Because

I feel so bad, I'm getting worried that I'm hurting

myself somehow. My temperatures range from 95.5 first

thing in the morning to 98.0 if I'm lucky around 5:00

pm. They average about 97.0.

Yesterday after trying to figure out my energy

issues, I decided to get some HC cream. I'm not sure

how to dose this? I also was thinking of ordering

some Isocort. Should I ween off T3 and start on some

kind of adrenal support?

Thank you,

Beckey