Re: Help With Iron Labs: Bump Val or Nick

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> Just had my iron labs done. Here are the results:

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> Total iron: 52 (ref. 40-160)

> Iron Binding Capacity: 333 (ref. 250-450)

> % Saturation: 16 (ref. 15-50)

> Ferritin: 238 (ref. 10-232)

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> My doc says I have inflammation and a possible bacterial infection which is

causing the high ferritin and that I'm fairly low on iron. Due to having Hashis,

he feels taking more iron right now would be like pouring gasoline on a fire for

my autoimmune.

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> I have a fairly strong RT-3 problem.

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> Free T-4: 1.7 (ref 0.8-1.8)

> Free T-3: 223 (ref 230-420)

> RT-3: 41 (ref 11-32)

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> My question is this. I've read on these boards that just being functionally

hypo for so long and being on Synthroid for 30 years could cause some severe

inflamation. I've tried taking T-3 (12.5 mg) after stabalizing my adrenals which

had crashed (25 mg HC for two months now) and still felt hot and angry. I'm sure

it's the low iron, but how do I correct this problem if I can't take any iron

due to Hashis? I don't know where to go with this if my hypo is creating the

inflammation and the inflammation is creating the RT-3 hypo problem. Any

thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I'm stumped. Michele

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I have never heard of iron causing a problem wiht hashi's. And it is

vital to being able to tolerate and utilize thyroid so if it were me I

would be taking iron wiht your labs anyway.

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>> http://faqhelp.webs.com/

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>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

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>> Just had my iron labs done. Here are the results:

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>> Total iron: 52 (ref. 40-160)

>> Iron Binding Capacity: 333 (ref. 250-450)

>> % Saturation: 16 (ref. 15-50)

>> Ferritin: 238 (ref. 10-232)

>>

>> My doc says I have inflammation and a possible bacterial infection which is

causing the high ferritin and that I'm fairly low on iron. Due to having Hashis,

he feels taking more iron right now would be like pouring gasoline on a fire for

my autoimmune.

>>

>> I have a fairly strong RT-3 problem.

>>

>> Free T-4: 1.7 (ref 0.8-1.8)

>> Free T-3: 223 (ref 230-420)

>> RT-3: 41 (ref 11-32)

>>

>> My question is this. I've read on these boards that just being functionally

hypo for so long and being on Synthroid for 30 years could cause some severe

inflamation. I've tried taking T-3 (12.5 mg) after stabalizing my adrenals which

had crashed (25 mg HC for two months now) and still felt hot and angry. I'm sure

it's the low iron, but how do I correct this problem if I can't take any iron

due to Hashis? I don't know where to go with this if my hypo is creating the

inflammation and the inflammation is creating the RT-3 hypo problem. Any

thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I'm stumped. Michele

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Val, Is there any recommended amount to take daily and in what form? I'm very

carb sensitive so have meat three times a day (usually turkey or lamb) so I'm

getting lots of iron in my food. It seems to just be converting to storage

ferritin and not to anything functional. Would supplementing iron be any

different? Michele

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> >> Just had my iron labs done. Here are the results:

> >>

> >> Total iron: 52 (ref. 40-160)

> >> Iron Binding Capacity: 333 (ref. 250-450)

> >> % Saturation: 16 (ref. 15-50)

> >> Ferritin: 238 (ref. 10-232)

> >>

> >> My doc says I have inflammation and a possible bacterial infection which is

causing the high ferritin and that I'm fairly low on iron. Due to having Hashis,

he feels taking more iron right now would be like pouring gasoline on a fire for

my autoimmune.

> >>

> >> I have a fairly strong RT-3 problem.

> >>

> >> Free T-4: 1.7 (ref 0.8-1.8)

> >> Free T-3: 223 (ref 230-420)

> >> RT-3: 41 (ref 11-32)

> >>

> >> My question is this. I've read on these boards that just being functionally

hypo for so long and being on Synthroid for 30 years could cause some severe

inflamation. I've tried taking T-3 (12.5 mg) after stabalizing my adrenals which

had crashed (25 mg HC for two months now) and still felt hot and angry. I'm sure

it's the low iron, but how do I correct this problem if I can't take any iron

due to Hashis? I don't know where to go with this if my hypo is creating the

inflammation and the inflammation is creating the RT-3 hypo problem. Any

thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I'm stumped. Michele

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Here's Val's standard iron recommendation: 150-200 mg elemental iron daily,

many here do best on bisglycinate, taken at the same time as vitamin C and taken

in at least two doses for better absorption.

Here's a link to bluebonnet iron bisglycinate, which lots of people on this

group have had good results with, 7 capsules a day supplies 189 mg elemental

iron:

http://www.iherb.com/Bluebonnet-Nutrition-Chelated-Iron-90-Vcaps/11571?at=0

My local Whole Foods is now carrying bluebonnet, so I don't have to pay

shipping.

We have gotten good reports on Solgar Gentle Iron, as well.

I don't think the iron you are taking is converting into ferritin. With your

low % saturation, it looks more like you have overall low iron, with a ferritin

result falsely high due to inflammation and/or other reason(s).

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> > >> Just had my iron labs done. Here are the results:

> > >>

> > >> Total iron: 52 (ref. 40-160)

> > >> Iron Binding Capacity: 333 (ref. 250-450)

> > >> % Saturation: 16 (ref. 15-50)

> > >> Ferritin: 238 (ref. 10-232)

> > >>

> > >> My doc says I have inflammation and a possible bacterial infection which

is causing the high ferritin and that I'm fairly low on iron. Due to having

Hashis, he feels taking more iron right now would be like pouring gasoline on a

fire for my autoimmune.

> > >>

> > >> I have a fairly strong RT-3 problem.

> > >>

> > >> Free T-4: 1.7 (ref 0.8-1.8)

> > >> Free T-3: 223 (ref 230-420)

> > >> RT-3: 41 (ref 11-32)

> > >>

> > >> My question is this. I've read on these boards that just being

functionally hypo for so long and being on Synthroid for 30 years could cause

some severe inflamation. I've tried taking T-3 (12.5 mg) after stabalizing my

adrenals which had crashed (25 mg HC for two months now) and still felt hot and

angry. I'm sure it's the low iron, but how do I correct this problem if I can't

take any iron due to Hashis? I don't know where to go with this if my hypo is

creating the inflammation and the inflammation is creating the RT-3 hypo

problem. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I'm stumped. Michele

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> > > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Yes it would. But I have to wonder are you on adrenal support? Low

cortiosl causes inflammation of it's own and cortiosl is the body's

naturla antiinflammatory And thew high inflammaiton suggest you might

need it.

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>>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>> http://faqhelp.webs.com/

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>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

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> Val, Is there any recommended amount to take daily and in what form? I'm very

carb sensitive so have meat three times a day (usually turkey or lamb) so I'm

getting lots of iron in my food. It seems to just be converting to storage

ferritin and not to anything functional. Would supplementing iron be any

different? Michele

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>>>> Just had my iron labs done. Here are the results:

>>>>

>>>> Total iron: 52 (ref. 40-160)

>>>> Iron Binding Capacity: 333 (ref. 250-450)

>>>> % Saturation: 16 (ref. 15-50)

>>>> Ferritin: 238 (ref. 10-232)

>>>>

>>>> My doc says I have inflammation and a possible bacterial infection which is

causing the high ferritin and that I'm fairly low on iron. Due to having Hashis,

he feels taking more iron right now would be like pouring gasoline on a fire for

my autoimmune.

>>>>

>>>> I have a fairly strong RT-3 problem.

>>>>

>>>> Free T-4: 1.7 (ref 0.8-1.8)

>>>> Free T-3: 223 (ref 230-420)

>>>> RT-3: 41 (ref 11-32)

>>>>

>>>> My question is this. I've read on these boards that just being functionally

hypo for so long and being on Synthroid for 30 years could cause some severe

inflamation. I've tried taking T-3 (12.5 mg) after stabalizing my adrenals which

had crashed (25 mg HC for two months now) and still felt hot and angry. I'm sure

it's the low iron, but how do I correct this problem if I can't take any iron

due to Hashis? I don't know where to go with this if my hypo is creating the

inflammation and the inflammation is creating the RT-3 hypo problem. Any

thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I'm stumped. Michele

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>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Margery, thanks for that good information. I'll check my local food co-op to see

if they have either of the suggested iron supplements and then check iherb after

that. Michele

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> > > >> Just had my iron labs done. Here are the results:

> > > >>

> > > >> Total iron: 52 (ref. 40-160)

> > > >> Iron Binding Capacity: 333 (ref. 250-450)

> > > >> % Saturation: 16 (ref. 15-50)

> > > >> Ferritin: 238 (ref. 10-232)

> > > >>

> > > >> My doc says I have inflammation and a possible bacterial infection

which is causing the high ferritin and that I'm fairly low on iron. Due to

having Hashis, he feels taking more iron right now would be like pouring

gasoline on a fire for my autoimmune.

> > > >>

> > > >> I have a fairly strong RT-3 problem.

> > > >>

> > > >> Free T-4: 1.7 (ref 0.8-1.8)

> > > >> Free T-3: 223 (ref 230-420)

> > > >> RT-3: 41 (ref 11-32)

> > > >>

> > > >> My question is this. I've read on these boards that just being

functionally hypo for so long and being on Synthroid for 30 years could cause

some severe inflamation. I've tried taking T-3 (12.5 mg) after stabalizing my

adrenals which had crashed (25 mg HC for two months now) and still felt hot and

angry. I'm sure it's the low iron, but how do I correct this problem if I can't

take any iron due to Hashis? I don't know where to go with this if my hypo is

creating the inflammation and the inflammation is creating the RT-3 hypo

problem. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I'm stumped. Michele

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> > > > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Val, yes I am on adrenal support, 25mg for about two months now. I tried getting

on T-3 last week and just felt not normal--kind of hot and angry so there is

still a puzzle piece missing in the whole picture. I'm assuming it's the low

functional iron but maybe I'm wrong. I'm not sure how to investigate further on

the inflammation problem. It could be so many things. Michele

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> >>>> Just had my iron labs done. Here are the results:

> >>>>

> >>>> Total iron: 52 (ref. 40-160)

> >>>> Iron Binding Capacity: 333 (ref. 250-450)

> >>>> % Saturation: 16 (ref. 15-50)

> >>>> Ferritin: 238 (ref. 10-232)

> >>>>

> >>>> My doc says I have inflammation and a possible bacterial infection which

is causing the high ferritin and that I'm fairly low on iron. Due to having

Hashis, he feels taking more iron right now would be like pouring gasoline on a

fire for my autoimmune.

> >>>>

> >>>> I have a fairly strong RT-3 problem.

> >>>>

> >>>> Free T-4: 1.7 (ref 0.8-1.8)

> >>>> Free T-3: 223 (ref 230-420)

> >>>> RT-3: 41 (ref 11-32)

> >>>>

> >>>> My question is this. I've read on these boards that just being

functionally hypo for so long and being on Synthroid for 30 years could cause

some severe inflamation. I've tried taking T-3 (12.5 mg) after stabalizing my

adrenals which had crashed (25 mg HC for two months now) and still felt hot and

angry. I'm sure it's the low iron, but how do I correct this problem if I can't

take any iron due to Hashis? I don't know where to go with this if my hypo is

creating the inflammation and the inflammation is creating the RT-3 hypo

problem. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I'm stumped. Michele

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[Guest guest]

Michele, when my RT3 problem showed up, I was started on 5mcg of T3 twice a day. I've been titrating it up ever since. I'm now up to 70mcg and feeling much better. I don't think you would get much improvement on 12.5 mcg. I had to titrate up at the rate of 5mcg. every two weeks or so. It's not magic and it's not instant, but it does work. I don't take HC at all.

Your doctor might decide to give you an antibiotic to take care of an infection. Along with that I would take acidopholus 3 or 4 times a day to prevent an overgrowth of yeast.

I would give the T3 more time and titration to work for you.

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Subject: Re: Help With Iron Labs: Bump Val or NickTo: RT3_T3 Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 5:08 AM

>> Just had my iron labs done. Here are the results:> > Total iron: 52 (ref. 40-160)> Iron Binding Capacity: 333 (ref. 250-450)> % Saturation: 16 (ref. 15-50)> Ferritin: 238 (ref. 10-232)> > My doc says I have inflammation and a possible bacterial infection which is causing the high ferritin and that I'm fairly low on iron. Due to having Hashis, he feels taking more iron right now would be like pouring gasoline on a fire for my autoimmune. > > I have a fairly strong RT-3 problem. > > Free T-4: 1.7 (ref 0.8-1.8)> Free T-3: 223 (ref 230-420)> RT-3:

41 (ref 11-32) > > My question is this. I've read on these boards that just being functionally hypo for so long and being on Synthroid for 30 years could cause some severe inflamation. I've tried taking T-3 (12.5 mg) after stabalizing my adrenals which had crashed (25 mg HC for two months now) and still felt hot and angry. I'm sure it's the low iron, but how do I correct this problem if I can't take any iron due to Hashis? I don't know where to go with this if my hypo is creating the inflammation and the inflammation is creating the RT-3 hypo problem. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I'm stumped. Michele>------------------------------------We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

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You might try eating eggs, spinach, kale and other dark green leafy vegetables along with what you are already doing. These things are usually not instant.

<>Roni

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It's called knowledge!

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doesn't mean it's not there<>

Subject: Re: Help With Iron Labs: Bump Val or NickTo: RT3_T3 Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 5:45 AM

Val, Is there any recommended amount to take daily and in what form? I'm very carb sensitive so have meat three times a day (usually turkey or lamb) so I'm getting lots of iron in my food. It seems to just be converting to storage ferritin and not to anything functional. Would supplementing iron be any different? Michele> > > >> Just had my iron labs done. Here are the results:> >>> >> Total iron: 52 (ref. 40-160)> >> Iron Binding Capacity: 333 (ref. 250-450)> >> % Saturation: 16 (ref. 15-50)> >> Ferritin: 238 (ref. 10-232)> >>> >> My doc says I have inflammation and a possible bacterial infection which is causing the high ferritin and that I'm fairly low on iron. Due to having Hashis, he feels taking more iron right now would be like pouring gasoline on a fire for my autoimmune.> >>> >> I have a fairly strong RT-3 problem.> >>> >> Free T-4: 1.7 (ref

0.8-1.8)> >> Free T-3: 223 (ref 230-420)> >> RT-3: 41 (ref 11-32)> >>> >> My question is this. I've read on these boards that just being functionally hypo for so long and being on Synthroid for 30 years could cause some severe inflamation. I've tried taking T-3 (12.5 mg) after stabalizing my adrenals which had crashed (25 mg HC for two months now) and still felt hot and angry. I'm sure it's the low iron, but how do I correct this problem if I can't take any iron due to Hashis? I don't know where to go with this if my hypo is creating the inflammation and the inflammation is creating the RT-3 hypo problem. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I'm stumped. Michele> >>> >> > >> >> >> > ------------------------------------> >> > We are not medical

professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

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Hi Roni, thanks for your input. It wasn't so much that I didn't get any

improvement with the T-3, it was more that I didn't feel good on the small

amount I did take. I can try to break the Cytomel into smaller bits and try it

again, but I'm going to do a couple of weeks of Solgar's gentle iron (I did find

it at my health food store) first and then give it another whirl. As for eggs

and spinach etc., I eat these already along with lots of red meat and have for

several years now and it still hasn't brought up my iron (aside from my

ferritin). Thanks for the tip on acidophilus. I'll keep that in mind if my doc

suggests an antibiotic. So far he hasn't mentioned it and we are waiting for

some stool testing results to come back to see what that might tell us. Happy

4th! Michele

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> > Just had my iron labs done. Here are the results:

> >

> > Total iron: 52   (ref. 40-160)

> > Iron Binding Capacity: 333   (ref. 250-450)

> > % Saturation: 16   (ref. 15-50)

> > Ferritin: 238   (ref. 10-232)

> >

> > My doc says I have inflammation and a possible bacterial infection which is

causing the high ferritin and that I'm fairly low on iron. Due to having Hashis,

he feels taking more iron right now would be like pouring gasoline on a fire for

my autoimmune.

> >

> > I have a fairly strong RT-3 problem.

> >

> > Free T-4: 1.7 (ref 0.8-1.8)

> > Free T-3: 223 (ref 230-420)

> > RT-3: 41   (ref 11-32)

> >

> > My question is this. I've read on these boards that just being functionally

hypo for so long and being on Synthroid for 30 years could cause some severe

inflamation. I've tried taking T-3 (12.5 mg) after stabalizing my adrenals which

had crashed (25 mg HC for two months now) and still felt hot and angry. I'm sure

it's the low iron, but how do I correct this problem if I can't take any iron

due to Hashis? I don't know where to go with this if my hypo is creating the

inflammation and the inflammation is creating the RT-3 hypo problem. Any

thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I'm stumped. Michele

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