Getting Frustrated with repositioning, is there really any point?

[Guest guest]

Hi

I have been trying to aggressively use the repositioning techniques

for my 4 month old. I've only been attempting all these new measures

for a 3 days or so but I'm finding it impossible to have " zero "

pressure on the back of the head. He never use to mind tummy time

but we're doing so much he's starting to whine as soon as I lay him

down. I sit him on my knee but he wants to throw himself back to

rest his head and back on my chest - I try not to let him - I think

this is too much strain for him. Then last night I laid him down to

sleep on his side and waited unti he was in a really good sleep so he

wouldn't roll onto his back but when I checked on him 30 mins. later

he was on his back! of course I realize all these new repositioning

techniques may help prevent his head from getting worse but but do

they help with the flatness actually rounding out? The minutes of the

day seems to go by now so slow and he seems so much more unhappy

yesterday and today - I feel we both need a good cry. For the record

I did cut up some memory foam that I had and placed it on his change

table and a piece in his car seat and a piece in his bouncy seat and

where he lays on his back to have kick time (not that we are using

those areas very much). I ordered a Noggin Nest thing from e-bay and

it should be here this week. We see our Pediatrician in one week

for her opinion. I guess everyone thinks its still good to keep up

the good fight of zero pressure....and if everyone is as tired of my

complaining as I am no worries I'm all done. Had to get this off my

chest - I'm ready to jump back in. Wish me luck,

<Marina

[Guest guest]

I tried to reposition for brachy, and I

found it exhausting – especially with a young toddler running around as

well. The trickiest part is that all the zero pressure method will accomplish

is preventing the head shape from worsening. In order to actually improve the

shape, you need to apply pressure to the prominent parts. Laying him down with

his head to one side, for example. I did everything I could for nearly 3

months and I actually think his head got worse because there was nothing I

could do to prevent the squirmy worm from sleeping flat on the back of his head

during the night time sleeps.

Good luck!

From: Plagiocephaly [mailto:Plagiocephaly ] On Behalf Of luvmynwfy

Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008

6:09 AM

Plagiocephaly

Subject: Getting

Frustrated with repositioning, is there really any point?

Hi

I have been trying to aggressively use the repositioning techniques

for my 4 month old. I've only been attempting all these new measures

for a 3 days or so but I'm finding it impossible to have " zero "

pressure on the back of the head. He never use to mind tummy time

but we're doing so much he's starting to whine as soon as I lay him

down. I sit him on my knee but he wants to throw himself back to

rest his head and back on my chest - I try not to let him - I think

this is too much strain for him. Then last night I laid him down to

sleep on his side and waited unti he was in a really good sleep so he

wouldn't roll onto his back but when I checked on him 30 mins. later

he was on his back! of course I realize all these new repositioning

techniques may help prevent his head from getting worse but but do

they help with the flatness actually rounding out? The minutes of the

day seems to go by now so slow and he seems so much more unhappy

yesterday and today - I feel we both need a good cry. For the record

I did cut up some memory foam that I had and placed it on his change

table and a piece in his car seat and a piece in his bouncy seat and

where he lays on his back to have kick time (not that we are using

those areas very much). I ordered a Noggin Nest thing from e-bay and

it should be here this week. We see our Pediatrician in one week

for her opinion. I guess everyone thinks its still good to keep up

the good fight of zero pressure....and if everyone is as tired of my

complaining as I am no worries I'm all done. Had to get this off my

chest - I'm ready to jump back in. Wish me luck,

<Marina

[Guest guest]

Hi Marina, I really tried hard to reposition my daughter as well but

she was very stubborn. My son had tort which caused plagio so when

I noticed my daughter doing the whole tort thing at only a week old

I called my doctor and began trying to reposition right away. Well

2 mo. later head was really flat and we made an appt. with the

plastic surgeon who wouldn't see us until she was 4 mo. I explained

to him that I had been trying so hard to reposition and he told me

the plagio was severe enough that all the repositioning in the world

wouldn't help. So to make a short story long, I think it depends on

how bad the plagio is and how stubbron your baby is.

>

> I tried to reposition for brachy, and I found it exhausting -

especially

> with a young toddler running around as well. The trickiest part

is that all

> the zero pressure method will accomplish is preventing the head

shape from

> worsening. In order to actually improve the shape, you need to

apply

> pressure to the prominent parts. Laying him down with his head to

one side,

> for example. I did everything I could for nearly 3 months and I

actually

> think his head got worse because there was nothing I could do to

prevent the

> squirmy worm from sleeping flat on the back of his head during the

night

> time sleeps.

>

>

>

> Good luck!

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Plagiocephaly

[mailto:Plagiocephaly ]

> On Behalf Of luvmynwfy

> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:09 AM

> Plagiocephaly

> Subject: Getting Frustrated with repositioning, is there

really any

> point?

>

>

>

> Hi

> I have been trying to aggressively use the repositioning

techniques

> for my 4 month old. I've only been attempting all these new

measures

> for a 3 days or so but I'm finding it impossible to have " zero "

> pressure on the back of the head. He never use to mind tummy time

> but we're doing so much he's starting to whine as soon as I lay

him

> down. I sit him on my knee but he wants to throw himself back to

> rest his head and back on my chest - I try not to let him - I

think

> this is too much strain for him. Then last night I laid him down

to

> sleep on his side and waited unti he was in a really good sleep so

he

> wouldn't roll onto his back but when I checked on him 30 mins.

later

> he was on his back! of course I realize all these new

repositioning

> techniques may help prevent his head from getting worse but but do

> they help with the flatness actually rounding out? The minutes of

the

> day seems to go by now so slow and he seems so much more unhappy

> yesterday and today - I feel we both need a good cry. For the

record

> I did cut up some memory foam that I had and placed it on his

change

> table and a piece in his car seat and a piece in his bouncy seat

and

> where he lays on his back to have kick time (not that we are using

> those areas very much). I ordered a Noggin Nest thing from e-bay

and

> it should be here this week. We see our Pediatrician in one week

> for her opinion. I guess everyone thinks its still good to keep up

> the good fight of zero pressure....and if everyone is as tired of

my

> complaining as I am no worries I'm all done. Had to get this off

my

> chest - I'm ready to jump back in. Wish me luck,

> <Marina

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marina-

Vent as much as you like. That's what we're here for! Repo is tough,

and I honestly didn't even try it THAT hard. I had a preschooler to

contend with and there was just no physical way I could keep my son

off his head every single minute of every day (plus not one doctor

said to do it, I did it primarily for his tort, not his plagio). Do

you have the bumbo seat and/or excersaucer? I don't think it would

hurt him to be resting back on you, you're a much softer surface

than the floor or some other hard surface. Are you dealing with

plagio or brachy? I do think it would be worth sticking it out for

at least a little longer and see if you start seeing results. But if

it gets to be too much, at least you know that you have another

option. I hope your ped has some good advice for you next week.

Hang in there!

Jake-19m (tort resolved/rt plagio/DOCBand 8 weeks)

Jordan-4

>

> Hi

> I have been trying to aggressively use the repositioning

techniques

> for my 4 month old. I've only been attempting all these new

measures

> for a 3 days or so but I'm finding it impossible to have " zero "

> pressure on the back of the head. He never use to mind tummy time

> but we're doing so much he's starting to whine as soon as I lay

him

> down. I sit him on my knee but he wants to throw himself back to

> rest his head and back on my chest - I try not to let him - I

think

> this is too much strain for him. Then last night I laid him down

to

> sleep on his side and waited unti he was in a really good sleep so

he

> wouldn't roll onto his back but when I checked on him 30 mins.

later

> he was on his back! of course I realize all these new

repositioning

> techniques may help prevent his head from getting worse but but do

> they help with the flatness actually rounding out? The minutes of

the

> day seems to go by now so slow and he seems so much more unhappy

> yesterday and today - I feel we both need a good cry. For the

record

> I did cut up some memory foam that I had and placed it on his

change

> table and a piece in his car seat and a piece in his bouncy seat

and

> where he lays on his back to have kick time (not that we are using

> those areas very much). I ordered a Noggin Nest thing from e-bay

and

> it should be here this week. We see our Pediatrician in one

week

> for her opinion. I guess everyone thinks its still good to keep

up

> the good fight of zero pressure....and if everyone is as tired of

my

> complaining as I am no worries I'm all done. Had to get this off

my

> chest - I'm ready to jump back in. Wish me luck,

> <Marina

>

[Guest guest]

Repo is really hard, but can work well. I have to admit we didn't

really try it for long. By the time I realized how bad Sydney's head

was, we decided to go ahead and band. So I really on tried it while we

were waiting for the band. Once we got the band it was so much easier

because I didn't need to worry if she was on her back. She loved to

sleep on her back staring straight at the ceiling - nice and flat in

back with almost no asymmetry :-) Her band worked very well and

although we got some funny looks, was really much easier than repo.

Plus given her severity I know we wouldn't have gotten enough

correction with only repo. But if her head was borderline I would have

probably worked harder on the repo to avoid banding.

-christine

sydney 2 yrs staband grad

>

> Hi

> I have been trying to aggressively use the repositioning techniques

> for my 4 month old. I've only been attempting all these new measures

> for a 3 days or so but I'm finding it impossible to have " zero "

> pressure on the back of the head. He never use to mind tummy time

> but we're doing so much he's starting to whine as soon as I lay him

> down. I sit him on my knee but he wants to throw himself back to

> rest his head and back on my chest - I try not to let him - I think

> this is too much strain for him. Then last night I laid him down to

> sleep on his side and waited unti he was in a really good sleep so he

> wouldn't roll onto his back but when I checked on him 30 mins. later

> he was on his back! of course I realize all these new repositioning

> techniques may help prevent his head from getting worse but but do

> they help with the flatness actually rounding out? The minutes of the

> day seems to go by now so slow and he seems so much more unhappy

> yesterday and today - I feel we both need a good cry. For the record

> I did cut up some memory foam that I had and placed it on his change

> table and a piece in his car seat and a piece in his bouncy seat and

> where he lays on his back to have kick time (not that we are using

> those areas very much). I ordered a Noggin Nest thing from e-bay and

> it should be here this week. We see our Pediatrician in one week

> for her opinion. I guess everyone thinks its still good to keep up

> the good fight of zero pressure....and if everyone is as tired of my

> complaining as I am no worries I'm all done. Had to get this off my

> chest - I'm ready to jump back in. Wish me luck,

> <Marina

>

[Guest guest]

Marina,

I also tried repo for three months, saw great results until my guy got so big at 4 mos that he could roll out of all positioners and get to the side we did not want him on. I continued to try everything and like you, found it very challenging to not have him sitting in a bouncy seat or on the floor at all at such a young age. I have a twin with him and a almost 3 yr old, so holding him all day was impossible. we have decided to band even though his numbers are moderate, just want to be done with it. I just hope he will not regress when we are done, he will just be bigger then. I actually did have success getting him to sleep more on the correct side of his head, but they said there was no improvement...

I would ditto to keep trying for a certain timeframe you are comfortable with and know how much assymetry you are comfortable with before you go to a final appt. It is all different for each of us and I am sure we all see different results. I just had to know that I had done all I could given my situation and went with CT's recommendation although we do not see that his head looks too bad.

Getting Frustrated with repositioning, is there really any point?

HiI have been trying to aggressively use the repositioning techniques for my 4 month old. I've only been attempting all these new measures for a 3 days or so but I'm finding it impossible to have "zero" pressure on the back of the head. He never use to mind tummy time but we're doing so much he's starting to whine as soon as I lay him down. I sit him on my knee but he wants to throw himself back to rest his head and back on my chest - I try not to let him - I think this is too much strain for him. Then last night I laid him down to sleep on his side and waited unti he was in a really good sleep so he wouldn't roll onto his back but when I checked on him 30 mins. later he was on his back! of course I realize all these new repositioning techniques may help prevent his head from getting worse but but do they help with the flatness actually rounding out? The minutes of the day seems to go by now so

slow and he seems so much more unhappy yesterday and today - I feel we both need a good cry. For the record I did cut up some memory foam that I had and placed it on his change table and a piece in his car seat and a piece in his bouncy seat and where he lays on his back to have kick time (not that we are using those areas very much). I ordered a Noggin Nest thing from e-bay and it should be here this week. We see our Pediatrician in one week for her opinion. I guess everyone thinks its still good to keep up the good fight of zero pressure.... and if everyone is as tired of my complaining as I am no worries I'm all done. Had to get this off my chest - I'm ready to jump back in. Wish me luck,<Marina

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[Guest guest]

Marina, I am in a similar situation. We went to CT and they told us that my son has brachy, actually sever one, but for some reason for me and all the people around me he does not look bad at all. My husband is really against banding him, so we decided to try repositioning until he reaches 6 months, going to be on April 25th. I have been doing repositioning since last Wednesday and I think I see results, and this is what my nanny and my husband are telling me, but I will not know for sure until he gets measured. I hope that the pediatrics will be able to measure the cephalics index when we go for his well visit. If there is no improvement I will push my husband to band my son. It is hard and sometimes I feel I am going to go crazy, but it is helpful that I have a nanny during the day so she does it to. During the night I will check on him several times to make sure he is sleeping on his side and not on the back. The nanny loves the little one,

and I told her that if we do not see improvements I am going to get the helmet so I am hoping that this will convince her to be diligent in doing the repositioning. I am curious to hear about how everything is going will you so please keep us posted. I will do the same. Good luck, Totti <melissakyleclark@...> wrote: Marina, I also tried repo for three months, saw great results until my guy got so big at 4 mos that he could roll out of all positioners and get to the side we did not want him on. I continued to try everything and like you, found it very challenging to not have him sitting in a bouncy seat or on the floor at all at such a young age. I have a twin with him and a almost 3 yr old, so holding him all day was impossible. we have decided to band even though his numbers are moderate, just want to be done with it. I just hope he will not regress when we are done, he will just be bigger then. I actually did have success getting him to sleep more on the correct side of his head, but they said there was no improvement... I would ditto to keep trying

for a certain timeframe you are comfortable with and know how much assymetry you are comfortable with before you go to a final appt. It is all different for each of us and I am sure we all see different results. I just had to know that I had done all I could given my situation and went with CT's recommendation although we do not see that his head looks too bad. Getting Frustrated with repositioning, is there really any point? HiI have been trying to aggressively use the repositioning techniques for my 4 month old. I've only been attempting all these new measures for a 3 days or so but I'm finding it impossible

to have "zero" pressure on the back of the head. He never use to mind tummy time but we're doing so much he's starting to whine as soon as I lay him down. I sit him on my knee but he wants to throw himself back to rest his head and back on my chest - I try not to let him - I think this is too much strain for him. Then last night I laid him down to sleep on his side and waited unti he was in a really good sleep so he wouldn't roll onto his back but when I checked on him 30 mins. later he was on his back! of course I realize all these new repositioning techniques may help prevent his head from getting worse but but do they help with the flatness actually rounding out? The minutes of the day seems to go by now so slow and he seems so much more unhappy yesterday and today - I feel we both need a good cry. For the record I did cut up some memory foam that I had and placed it on his change table and a piece in his car seat

and a piece in his bouncy seat and where he lays on his back to have kick time (not that we are using those areas very much). I ordered a Noggin Nest thing from e-bay and it should be here this week. We see our Pediatrician in one week for her opinion. I guess everyone thinks its still good to keep up the good fight of zero pressure.... and if everyone is as tired of my complaining as I am no worries I'm all done. Had to get this off my chest - I'm ready to jump back in. Wish me luck,<Marina __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I don't think you will have to worry much about regression since your baby will be sitting and probably pulling up by the time his band comes off.

From: <melissakyleclark@...>Subject: Re: Getting Frustrated with repositioning, is there really any point?Plagiocephaly Date: Thursday, April 10, 2008, 1:59 PM

Marina,

I also tried repo for three months, saw great results until my guy got so big at 4 mos that he could roll out of all positioners and get to the side we did not want him on. I continued to try everything and like you, found it very challenging to not have him sitting in a bouncy seat or on the floor at all at such a young age. I have a twin with him and a almost 3 yr old, so holding him all day was impossible. we have decided to band even though his numbers are moderate, just want to be done with it. I just hope he will not regress when we are done, he will just be bigger then. I actually did have success getting him to sleep more on the correct side of his head, but they said there was no improvement. ..

I would ditto to keep trying for a certain timeframe you are comfortable with and know how much assymetry you are comfortable with before you go to a final appt. It is all different for each of us and I am sure we all see different results. I just had to know that I had done all I could given my situation and went with CT's recommendation although we do not see that his head looks too bad.

Getting Frustrated with repositioning, is there really any point?

HiI have been trying to aggressively use the repositioning techniques for my 4 month old. I've only been attempting all these new measures for a 3 days or so but I'm finding it impossible to have "zero" pressure on the back of the head. He never use to mind tummy time but we're doing so much he's starting to whine as soon as I lay him down. I sit him on my knee but he wants to throw himself back to rest his head and back on my chest - I try not to let him - I think this is too much strain for him. Then last night I laid him down to sleep on his side and waited unti he was in a really good sleep so he wouldn't roll onto his back but when I checked on him 30 mins. later he was on his back! of course I realize all these new repositioning techniques may help prevent his head from getting worse but but do they help with the flatness actually rounding out? The minutes of the day seems to go by now so

slow and he seems so much more unhappy yesterday and today - I feel we both need a good cry. For the record I did cut up some memory foam that I had and placed it on his change table and a piece in his car seat and a piece in his bouncy seat and where he lays on his back to have kick time (not that we are using those areas very much). I ordered a Noggin Nest thing from e-bay and it should be here this week. We see our Pediatrician in one week for her opinion. I guess everyone thinks its still good to keep up the good fight of zero pressure.... and if everyone is as tired of my complaining as I am no worries I'm all done. Had to get this off my chest - I'm ready to jump back in. Wish me luck,<Marina

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