Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 It hasn't happened to me of late, but it's happened before when I tried to log into my mail. I knew I had entered the right password, but it kept kicking me back to the verify password screen. It IS awfully irritating. > Or is anyone else having issues logging onto ? I can log in > fine using Netscape but IE just puts me back at the " verify password " > screen every time I try to login. How irritating! > Serenity > > -- > http://www.theonion.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 That happens quite often which is why I use my email instead of going on the board - that and I can't stand the ads! lol Re: Is it just me? It hasn't happened to me of late, but it's happened before when I tried to log into my mail. I knew I had entered the right password, but it kept kicking me back to the verify password screen. It IS awfully irritating. > Or is anyone else having issues logging onto ? I can log in > fine using Netscape but IE just puts me back at the " verify password " > screen every time I try to login. How irritating! > Serenity > > -- > http://www.theonion.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 This happened to me FOREVER and drove me nuts!!! Here's what I found: If I logged into my before going to , I had to sign out... and then on the next screen click " sign out COMPLETELY " below the login thingy BEFORE going into . kuranes <kuranes@...> wrote: Or is anyone else having issues logging onto ? I can log in fine using Netscape but IE just puts me back at the " verify password " screen every time I try to login. How irritating! Serenity -- http://www.theonion.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2003 Report Share Posted May 19, 2003 > > I am responsible for my own healthcare and I do not have a medical > degree. I feel like I should not have to tell a physician how to do > their job either. Has this been the treatment everyone has been > getting? > > Jerry in Louisiana More or less, yes. It seems to be a question of degree. Occasionally you find someone good but you really have to hunt. In the pre-Viagra days, some would have looked a little deeper at the ED issue. Like screening for diabetes or considering the presence of adverse cardiovaascular changes or both. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2003 Report Share Posted May 19, 2003 Wow, Gerry! You are not alone here. I have had visits to Mayo (waiting list of 6 months), visits to U of A Medical (another 6 month waiting list), and amultiple visits to an endo. That did not listen. I got tired of the whole run-around crap. My decision was to switch insurance plans to make certain I got different doctors! The visits I had were also of nightmare proportions. After waiting 6 months to see the Mayo doctor, I am brought in. I sit for an hours ot be seen. The guy that comes in is not the doctor I was referred to see, but some other guy! This guy spends an hour talking about my sexuality, asking questions about my childhood, etc. Not once did he lsiten to my complaints, my concerns, etc. After the 45 minutes of questions not realted to the purpose of my visit, he tries to rush me out his door. I stopped him. I told him I came for reasons and wanted answers. I would not go until I got them. His response was for me to come back in a year or two. The guy then failed to return calls to my primary and didn?t send a letter to him until more than a month had passed. When I went to U of A Medical, I had a better physician that examined me. On my way down there, I had a friend drive me. I reviewed with my friend all my symptoms and my questions. I told my friend, ?If I forget to ask any of this, you remind me. If I forget what he said, you remind me.? We went in, met the doctor after the triditional hour wait. Why bother showing up to a doctor on time? We meet the guy. He is more open with his time, and answered my questions, ?We don?t know enough about the pituitary gland. Those symptoms could be from this. We are not certain. More research is needed.? etc. When we left, my friend turned to me and said, ?You told me more about the symptoms and the condition than the doctor told you. Why did you go to him?? good question. My last endo. Whom I fired, was an idiot. I would explain to him in concise details my symptoms. I would detail the dates, the tests, and I would even bring in my own lab results dating back 3 or more years so he could see the process! he would then ask a question like, ?What labs work have you had?? this is after I told him the precise tests. He would then say, ?What docot did these and when?? this was, of course after I had just told him, ?Dr. W. ordered these tests back in January and again in April.? The guy never heard me talking! He never read my chart. I would remind him, ?That is in my chart. You asked that last time I was here.? I told him I had a new PCP and gave him the name, address and phone number. Then, the guy sent a letter to the wrong PCP! So, I think you will find the state of medicine to be right up there with fast food! When I went back to him to formally fire him, I delineated a series of tests which are standard for diagnosis of specific parts of this condition. He told me he would not order them as the insurance will not pay them and he would have to eat the costs. I told him of their medical necessity. I told him I wanted to avoid using Androderm and Androgel as I react poorly to them. I told him I had used them in the past to find that my T levels went lower during their sue (see attached lab results dated, May, June and July, 2001, Doc.) he then wrote me a prescription for more Androderm and refused to do the tests. I told him I wanted on HCG. He said the insurance will not pay for it, so he will not write it. God forbid! Lets not try to remind the insurance that I am a person, with medical needs! Lets not remind the insurance that medicine is to be practiced by physicians not accountants! No, the endo. Would not spend time to write a letter of medical necessity. So, now I have been waiting 3 months with another to go to see this endo that is a regular on the endo lecture circuit. He is supposed to be good. In the meantime, I had to get on TRT as the osteoporisis was finally diagnosed. Over a year ago I had demanded my old PCP test for osteo. He said he would, then sent me to have an x-ray of my ankle! WTF? I told him I had wanted a bone density test for osteo! What was he doing? So, over a year passed with me being untreated for a brittle bone disease. Medicare denied payment for it. I had to contact my new PCP (the one that listens and is actually concerned with my health) to write a letter to Medicare to review the claim. She justified the medical necessity based upon the obvious results! So, I wait for Medicare to realzie that men under 40 can get this. Routinely, one must be both female and over 40 to have it covered. Keep up your spirits Gerry! It is a rough road to good health, but the road to the grave can be even more rough! I don?t have a medical degree, but I can read. I can ask questions. I can research. And, I do these things. Some doctors do not like an informed patient. They cringe when they see you whip out lab reports, research from other doctors copied out of professional journals. They do not like it when you tell them what you are wanting. They are accustomed to no being questioned. On one occasion, I had to take a doctor all the way up to the state! The state contacted the clinic he worked at and ordered the clinic to change its legal policies to what I had indicated as they were in line with the laws of the state. They had 10 business days to comply. This doctor had prescribed a drug I disagreed with. He refused to write for what I had suggested as being more appropriate. I had told him I had the right to a second opinion for prescription. He disagreed. End of story. He no longer works for that clinic. And, now, the state has finally created a modality for censure of this and other doctorrs that pull that crap. Ok, enough rambling. Remember, you are your own advocate. They don?t live in your body, you do. You get to sleep in it and wake in it. If you aren?t happy with the results, they don?t care because they don?t live in it! On 5/19/03 9:04 AM, " gfdenni " <gfdenni@...> wrote: > I went to an endo for a routine physical. I am a 43 y\o male. Went > through puberty very early at 10 years old. Presented all the > classic symptoms of andropause. I was really concerned about the > testicular and penile atrophy. He ordered blood test. I requested a > PSA cause I had a ten-year history of Prostatetitus, starting in my > 20. BP was fine. Scheduled a return visit to discuss the test > results. > Blood test revealed: > > total t 475 > SED up > Prolactin Elevated > HDL very low > LDL 160 > > > All other results were fine. However the PSA was not run. I > expressed again to him my concern about the change in my testicles > from being large and firm to smaller and softer. He prescribed > Lexapro for the depression and gave me samples of Viagra. I had to > suggest a urologic exam for changes in my anatomy. He agreed. Made > an appointment with urologist. The receptionist would not accept > sinus trouble as reason for visit so I had to tell her about my E.D. > The nurse came into the room and asked me for urine sample and the > reason for my visit. Had to tell her E.D. She said the doctor would > be in shortly. Later, a different nurse came in and asked me few > questions and asked me again the reason for my visit. Had to tell > HER E.D. (People what the hell are charts for?) > Then told me doctor would be in shortly. Three hours later the > doctor came in and rushed me through the exam. Checked me for a > hernia. Spent about 5 minutes with me and says, " This is the way we > handle these problems. " Take this prescription of VIAGRA and come > back in 6 months. He did not listen to me explain about the other > troubles I had been having or answer my concerns about the changes in > my anatomy. I left his office embarrassed, devastated, humiliated. > > I wrote him a letter to inform him I would not be returning for a 6- > month visit and was looking for a physician who could help me > understand and treat my condition. I could have gone to my P.C just > for a scrip of VIAGRA and did not have to see a specialist for that. > I told him about my 3-hour wait and the unprofessional treatment I > had received. My lab results did not indicate a PSA as well as total > free test. I was also concerned about my increased SED rate. (test > for Arthritis). He apologized asked for another chance. I set up an > appointment to draw blood for the test I needed. I had called each > week thereafter for test results. Three weeks later I had to call > again and finally got to speak to the doctor. My total t was 502 > and psa 1.4. The ANA and RA were normal. LH and FSH were at the top > of the normal range. When I inquired about the Free test results, he > told me they ran a total PSA not a total and free t. I did not need > another T test because the first one was only 2 weeks old. I said the > lowered T and high LH and FSH indicated testicular failure. His > response was " the protocol for treating testicular failure was for > fertility. Running a screen for Free T was not necessary because > Fertility was not an issue for me. He said we would confer with my > endo and call me back. > > The endo did not run a PSA and went right to treating me for > depression without searching for other causes. The urologist did > not even notice PSA was not run. I had to remind him. He did not > take the time to listen to me describe my symptoms nor give me time > to ask questions. Jumps right to VIAGRA and rushes me out the door. > I give him a second chance and he still has not examined me fully or > expressed any interest in seeing me again. > > The E.D. is only a part of the symptoms we experience and I find it > quite difficult to discuss with anyone, even a physician. My sexual > habits and experiences are not topic with my buddies at the pub or > hunting club either. The only rare glimpses of others anatomy are at > the open urinals or the locker rooms. I have only had one > conversation with my father about the male anatomy and that was the > infamous birds and bees discussion when I was about 10. That was so > uncomfortable for him I never did bring up any discussion about sex > ever again. So to walk into a physician's office and open up > completely and discuss all these things is quite difficult for me. I > do understand why men are reluctant to go to a doctor about these > issues in the first place. Then to be treated by the medical > community the way I was makes it even worse. > > I am responsible for my own healthcare and I do not have a medical > degree. I feel like I should not have to tell a physician how to do > their job either. Has this been the treatment everyone has been > getting? > > Jerry in Louisiana > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2003 Report Share Posted May 19, 2003 I think docs pretty much assume we're all neurotic unless they can see obvious symptoms. If you're bleeding like a stuck pig or have pus running out the end of your willie, you might get their attention. " Depression or Virus " are synonymous with " I don't know what's wrong, here take this and don't call me...please " . Even " failing " a blood test isn't enough, you have to fail it " bad enough " . Nope, you aren't alone. Jerry > I went to an endo for a routine physical. I am a 43 y\o male. Went > through puberty very early at 10 years old. Presented all the > classic symptoms of andropause. I was really concerned about the > testicular and penile atrophy. He ordered blood test. I requested a > PSA cause I had a ten-year history of Prostatetitus, starting in my > 20. BP was fine. Scheduled a return visit to discuss the test > results. > Blood test revealed: > > total t 475 > SED up > Prolactin Elevated > HDL very low > LDL 160 > > > All other results were fine. However the PSA was not run. I > expressed again to him my concern about the change in my testicles > from being large and firm to smaller and softer. He prescribed > Lexapro for the depression and gave me samples of Viagra. I had to > suggest a urologic exam for changes in my anatomy. He agreed. Made > an appointment with urologist. The receptionist would not accept > sinus trouble as reason for visit so I had to tell her about my E.D. > The nurse came into the room and asked me for urine sample and the > reason for my visit. Had to tell her E.D. She said the doctor would > be in shortly. Later, a different nurse came in and asked me few > questions and asked me again the reason for my visit. Had to tell > HER E.D. (People what the hell are charts for?) > Then told me doctor would be in shortly. Three hours later the > doctor came in and rushed me through the exam. Checked me for a > hernia. Spent about 5 minutes with me and says, " This is the way we > handle these problems. " Take this prescription of VIAGRA and come > back in 6 months. He did not listen to me explain about the other > troubles I had been having or answer my concerns about the changes in > my anatomy. I left his office embarrassed, devastated, humiliated. > > I wrote him a letter to inform him I would not be returning for a 6- > month visit and was looking for a physician who could help me > understand and treat my condition. I could have gone to my P.C just > for a scrip of VIAGRA and did not have to see a specialist for that. > I told him about my 3-hour wait and the unprofessional treatment I > had received. My lab results did not indicate a PSA as well as total > free test. I was also concerned about my increased SED rate. (test > for Arthritis). He apologized asked for another chance. I set up an > appointment to draw blood for the test I needed. I had called each > week thereafter for test results. Three weeks later I had to call > again and finally got to speak to the doctor. My total t was 502 > and psa 1.4. The ANA and RA were normal. LH and FSH were at the top > of the normal range. When I inquired about the Free test results, he > told me they ran a total PSA not a total and free t. I did not need > another T test because the first one was only 2 weeks old. I said the > lowered T and high LH and FSH indicated testicular failure. His > response was " the protocol for treating testicular failure was for > fertility. Running a screen for Free T was not necessary because > Fertility was not an issue for me. He said we would confer with my > endo and call me back. > > The endo did not run a PSA and went right to treating me for > depression without searching for other causes. The urologist did > not even notice PSA was not run. I had to remind him. He did not > take the time to listen to me describe my symptoms nor give me time > to ask questions. Jumps right to VIAGRA and rushes me out the door. > I give him a second chance and he still has not examined me fully or > expressed any interest in seeing me again. > > The E.D. is only a part of the symptoms we experience and I find it > quite difficult to discuss with anyone, even a physician. My sexual > habits and experiences are not topic with my buddies at the pub or > hunting club either. The only rare glimpses of others anatomy are at > the open urinals or the locker rooms. I have only had one > conversation with my father about the male anatomy and that was the > infamous birds and bees discussion when I was about 10. That was so > uncomfortable for him I never did bring up any discussion about sex > ever again. So to walk into a physician's office and open up > completely and discuss all these things is quite difficult for me. I > do understand why men are reluctant to go to a doctor about these > issues in the first place. Then to be treated by the medical > community the way I was makes it even worse. > > I am responsible for my own healthcare and I do not have a medical > degree. I feel like I should not have to tell a physician how to do > their job either. Has this been the treatment everyone has been > getting? > > Jerry in Louisiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2003 Report Share Posted May 19, 2003 I'm too tired at the moment to go into this debate with any depth, but I can reiterate what said about Doctors not liking informed patients. They do not like it one little bit, because the informed patient won't take the bullshit that so many doctors have handed down to their patients for decades. As a teenager I was treated for epilepsy for nearly 4 years or so (can't remember exactly) even though the doctors were not sure what was causing the blackout's I was having. It eventually turned out I was blacking out because of stress and nothing to do with epilepsy. I had been taking mind-bending drugs for 4 years! I'll delve into this subject later, because it applies to what is happening here and now regarding my (former) PCP and issues with my endo. Arseholes with a Capital A! Steph ----- Original [edited] Message ----- From: " T. Kender. " Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 8:50 PM > Wow, Gerry! > You are not alone here. > > Keep up your spirits Gerry! It is a rough road to good health, but the road > to the grave can be even more rough! I don?t have a medical degree, but I > can read. I can ask questions. I can research. And, I do these things. Some > doctors do not like an informed patient. They cringe when they see you whip > out lab reports, research from other doctors copied out of professional > journals. They do not like it when you tell them what you are wanting. They > are accustomed to no being questioned................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 I took depression meds for 15 years. Looking back on it, they probably did make me worse. They certainly didn't make me feel any better, but then I didn't know what was wrong with me, tragically neither did they. Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: " Merati " Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 9:08 PM > Jerry in LA--I am so sorry this happened to you. There > have been mediocre to really awful stories on this > listserve. I encourage you to not take the depression > medication because you will get worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 Perhaps for every untoward response there are many more positive responses...generally we only hear the negative. I went on Wellbutrin SR 150 mg/2x/dy in October, 1997 (59 yo then) that didn't alleviate the depression and suicidal ideation was becoming more intense....December, 1997 my psychiatrist added Lithobid 300 mg/2x/dy...it was miraculous my fast turn around. I'm not bipolar, for which lithium is one potential medication, but in my case it is used as a mood stabilizer...my dose of 600 mg/dy is hardly anywhere near therapeutic dose for bipolar individuals. My psychiatrist is excellent! OR eon 65 yo Well-Differentiated GayMan Re: Is it just me? I took depression meds for 15 years. Looking back on it, they probably did make me worse. They certainly didn't make me feel any better, but then I didn't know what was wrong with me, tragically neither did they. Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: " Merati " Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 9:08 PM > Jerry in LA--I am so sorry this happened to you. There > have been mediocre to really awful stories on this > listserve. I encourage you to not take the depression > medication because you will get worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 No Jerry, it is not just you! To put it bluntly, many doctors are merely legal " pushers " of pharmaceuticals. I often work in clinics owned by groups of doctors. Some of these doctors (though I rarely see ANY of them) are sincere and responsible. Others are wined and dined by pharmaceutical companies on a daily basis...the same guys who tell us on TV to TELL YOUR DOCTOR about their products. (I thought he was supposed to tell ME what to take! Isn't that his job?) Doctors get big perks from the companies for pushing pharmaceuticals. So why should your doctor spend time and effort researching your ED condition when he only needs to prescribe the trendy, magic cure-all drug which is promoted as helping almost everyone with ED regardless of cause? Healthcare in the US is not a charity, it is big business. For example, the testing which I perform for doctors takes about an hour, involves significant technical knowledge, radiation exposure and patient care. There are two or three employees involved, each making approximately $25.00 during that hour. One clinic that I know of bills approximately $3000.00 for this test per patient. The doctor, usually a part owner of the clinic, spends approximately fifteen minutes per case interpreting test results, at the end of the day, without any patient contact. Six to ten patients are tested per day. You do the math. Even deducting the costs of facility maintainence, insurance, equipment, materials and salaries, the clinic makes an outrageous profit on diagnostic testing for it's owners. Sad sign on the front door of one clinic: " Self-pay individuals must pay 40% up front. " I wonder if healthcare in the US would be better off were the profit motive taken away. Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Personally I think positive responses to mind bending drugs are few and far between. It's far easier for a doctor to treat the symptoms as opposed to the cause. The difference between a Psychiatrist and a Psychotherapist is a shrink will treat the symptoms while the therapist will treat the cause (without drugs). Your the first person I've ever come across to praise a Psychiatrist, yours must be truly wonderful exception. Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: " OR eon " Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 1:41 PM > Perhaps for every untoward response there are many more positive > responses...generally we only hear the negative.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2003 Report Share Posted May 23, 2003 Oh Horrors! Let me be the second person to praise psychiatrists and damn therapists. Psychiatrists are honest practitioners who prescribe helpful meds and see their clients 3 or 4 times a year to see how the meds are doing. Therapists are talented who are very good at convincing people to part with their money while giving them nothing. They know that keeping people talking about their past (boo hoo, poor you!) is a con game that most folks willingly participate in. One therapist I was unfortunate enough to be involved with wanted to see me sometimes 2 x a week but mostly on a weekly basis, had me join now of his weekly group sessions, attended " marathon " sessions (that included ALL the office's clients) once a year, got my wife in for more of the same and kept us coming year after year after year until we ran out of insurance, money and finally got wise to the game. I could go on, of course, but I hear myself ranting. I just didn't want the statement below to go unchallenged without voicing my thoughts. Tom Re: Is it just me? > Personally I think positive responses to mind bending drugs are few and far > between. It's far easier for a doctor to treat the symptoms as opposed to > the cause. The difference between a Psychiatrist and a Psychotherapist is a > shrink will treat the symptoms while the therapist will treat the cause > (without drugs). > Your the first person I've ever come across to praise a Psychiatrist, yours > must be truly wonderful exception. > > Steph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " OR eon " > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 1:41 PM > > > > Perhaps for every untoward response there are many more positive > > responses...generally we only hear the negative.................. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2003 Report Share Posted May 24, 2003 I'm not saying that there aren't bad therapists, but in this country if you wanted a good Psychiatrist you would have to pay a lot of money and it would come straight out of your pocket, insurance wouldn't cover it. On the other hand you could be referred to an NHS shrink (free) and it's just too bad if he/she does not rise to your expectations. Psychotherapy is not available on the NHS, but their charges are much lower. In my own experience my view is exactly the opposite of what you said, but then different countries, different cultures. I'm glad that your past didn't cause you conflict with your present and future, but I don't think you should mock those who are not so fortunate. Like every other service there are good and bad, genuine practitioners and crooked practitioners. My therapist wasn't in it for the money, not when he only charged me a 6th of what he normally charged and I chose to be there for 2 years. Without it I would more than likely have taken my own life. Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: " Tom " Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 12:54 AM > Oh Horrors! Let me be the second person to praise psychiatrists and damn > therapists. > > Psychiatrists are honest practitioners who prescribe helpful meds and see > their clients 3 or 4 times a year to see how the meds are doing. > > Therapists are talented who are very good at convincing people to part with > their money while giving them nothing. They know that keeping people > talking about their past (boo hoo, poor you!) is a con game................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 When I was pregnant, I was suddenly aware of all the pregnant women around me. I thought the whole world was pregnant, but it was just that I was more observant about it. Now that Malcolm has plagio, I check out babies' heads all the time. I was watching a soap opera and there was a baby on it and I said to my husband, " Come here. This baby totally has left plagio! " I know it's more common now to see plagio babies, but I'm hyperobservant about it now. Am I the only one out there who notices this more now that I'm directly affected by it? I never would notice before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 EVERY woman was pregnant when I was pregnant, I swear it. I do look at baby's heads a lot more now. Oddly, I was at the mall yesterday and this mom and her baby girl (maybe 15 months old or so) sat down next to us in the food court. The little girl had peach fuzz for hair, so she was basically bald and every inch of her head was easily available for inspection. But honest to god, she had the most perfectly rounded head I have ever seen! I couldn't stop looking at her! I almost felt compelled to COMPLIMENT the mother! It was crazy, but at the same time, it was really refreshing to feel that, for once, I couldn't find one tiny thing wrong with that baby's head. I was thrilled to not have to be so critical for a change. Jake-18m (tort resolved/rt plagio/DOCBand 7 weeks) Jordan-4 > > When I was pregnant, I was suddenly aware of all the pregnant women around me. I thought > the whole world was pregnant, but it was just that I was more observant about it. > > Now that Malcolm has plagio, I check out babies' heads all the time. I was watching a soap > opera and there was a baby on it and I said to my husband, " Come here. This baby totally > has left plagio! " I know it's more common now to see plagio babies, but I'm hyperobservant > about it now. Am I the only one out there who notices this more now that I'm directly > affected by it? I never would notice before. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 It's funny you would say that...since my daughter had plagio (now corrected), I can't help but notice the heads of babies. I was commenting to a friend that I thought my 2 yr old's head was weird and she said how funny it was that I am so obsessed with them!! Isn't it weird how we can see things like that now? Is it just me? When I was pregnant, I was suddenly aware of all the pregnant women around me. I thought the whole world was pregnant, but it was just that I was more observant about it.Now that Malcolm has plagio, I check out babies' heads all the time. I was watching a soap opera and there was a baby on it and I said to my husband, "Come here. This baby totally has left plagio!" I know it's more common now to see plagio babies, but I'm hyperobservant about it now. Am I the only one out there who notices this more now that I'm directly affected by it? I never would notice before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 NO - DH and I see them everywhere!!! It drives my teenager CRAZY! Jen and Luli - 27 months Left tort - Right Plagio - Hanger Band Grad - CA http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/jens5th/ Is it just me? When I was pregnant, I was suddenly aware of all the pregnant women around me. I thought the whole world was pregnant, but it was just that I was more observant about it. Now that Malcolm has plagio, I check out babies' heads all the time. I was watching a soap opera and there was a baby on it and I said to my husband, "Come here. This baby totally has left plagio!" I know it's more common now to see plagio babies, but I'm hyperobservant about it now. Am I the only one out there who notices this more now that I'm directly affected by it? I never would notice before. Get the MapQuest Toolbar, Maps, Traffic, Directions More! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 I can't even look at a baby any longer without checking the head shape. :-) The hard part is if you notice something bad and need to decide if you should say something. -christine sydney 2 yrs starband grad > > When I was pregnant, I was suddenly aware of all the pregnant women around me. I thought > the whole world was pregnant, but it was just that I was more observant about it. > > Now that Malcolm has plagio, I check out babies' heads all the time. I was watching a soap > opera and there was a baby on it and I said to my husband, " Come here. This baby totally > has left plagio! " I know it's more common now to see plagio babies, but I'm hyperobservant > about it now. Am I the only one out there who notices this more now that I'm directly > affected by it? I never would notice before. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 I not only check out baby heads but adult heads too. I was in a meeting at work yesterday with a guy with a shaved head and was thinking to myself, Wow, he has right plagio. How bad is that????? It is only natural. It's like when you get a new car, you swear all of a sudden everyone has that car. Funny. You're definitely not alone. Sybilchristineashok <christineashok@...> wrote: I can't even look at a baby any longer without checking the headshape. :-)The hard part is if you notice something bad and need to decide if youshould say something.-christinesydney 2 yrs starband grad>> When I was pregnant, I was suddenly aware of all the pregnant womenaround me. I thought > the whole world was pregnant, but it was just that I was moreobservant about it.> > Now that Malcolm has plagio, I check out babies' heads all the time.I was watching a soap > opera and there was a baby on it and I said to my husband, "Comehere. This baby totally > has left plagio!" I know it's more common now to see plagio babies,but I'm hyperobservant > about it now. Am I the only one out there who notices this more nowthat I'm directly > affected by it? I never would notice before.> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 THat's so funny...but so true LOl. Kerica Plagiocephaly From: sybillusardi@...Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 05:03:25 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Is it just me? I not only check out baby heads but adult heads too. I was in a meeting at work yesterday with a guy with a shaved head and was thinking to myself, Wow, he has right plagio. How bad is that????? It is only natural. It's like when you get a new car, you swear all of a sudden everyone has that car. Funny. You're definitely not alone. Sybilchristineashok <christineashok > wrote: I can't even look at a baby any longer without checking the headshape. :-)The hard part is if you notice something bad and need to decide if youshould say something.-christinesydney 2 yrs starband grad>> When I was pregnant, I was suddenly aware of all the pregnant womenaround me. I thought > the whole world was pregnant, but it was just that I was moreobservant about it.> > Now that Malcolm has plagio, I check out babies' heads all the time.I was watching a soap > opera and there was a baby on it and I said to my husband, "Comehere. This baby totally > has left plagio!" I know it's more common now to see plagio babies,but I'm hyperobservant > about it now. Am I the only one out there who notices this more nowthat I'm directly > affected by it? I never would notice before.> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 I was at BB & B yesterday and a fifty-something women commented on my sons helmet. She then went on to tell me she had battled cancer and during chemo she learned her head was flat in the back, she said he mother must have left her in the crib a lot - LOL. Re: Re: Is it just me? I not only check out baby heads but adult heads too. I was in a meeting at work yesterday with a guy with a shaved head and was thinking to myself, Wow, he has right plagio. How bad is that????? It is only natural. It's like when you get a new car, you swear all of a sudden everyone has that car. Funny. You're definitely not alone. Sybilchristineashok <christineashok> wrote: I can't even look at a baby any longer without checking the headshape. :-)The hard part is if you notice something bad and need to decide if youshould say something.-christinesydney 2 yrs starband grad>> When I was pregnant, I was suddenly aware of all the pregnant womenaround me. I thought > the whole world was pregnant, but it was just that I was moreobservant about it.> > Now that Malcolm has plagio, I check out babies' heads all the time.I was watching a soap > opera and there was a baby on it and I said to my husband, "Comehere. This baby totally > has left plagio!" I know it's more common now to see plagio babies,but I'm hyperobservant > about it now. Am I the only one out there who notices this more nowthat I'm directly > affected by it? I never would notice before.> You rock. That's why Blockbuster' s offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 I spoke with a mom at my moms group yesterday. She has 2month old twins and one definatley has plagio. She thanked me because she and her dh were just discussing the babys headshape. She didn;t know about Plagio. I was glad I said something! Jen and Luli - 27 months Left tort - Right Plagio - Hanger Band Grad - CA http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/jens5th/ Re: Is it just me? I can't even look at a baby any longer without checking the head shape. :-) The hard part is if you notice something bad and need to decide if you should say something. -christine sydney 2 yrs starband grad > > When I was pregnant, I was suddenly aware of all the pregnant women around me. I thought > the whole world was pregnant, but it was just that I was more observant about it. > > Now that Malcolm has plagio, I check out babies' heads all the time. I was watching a soap > opera and there was a baby on it and I said to my husband, "Come here. This baby totally > has left plagio!" I know it's more common now to see plagio babies, but I'm hyperobservant > about it now. Am I the only one out there who notices this more now that I'm directly > affected by it? I never would notice before. > Get the MapQuest Toolbar, Maps, Traffic, Directions More! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 I was helping her and holding one of the babies. I simply asked her if anyone had evern mention plagio to her before. She said no and asked what it was and I said, I only mention it because my dd had it and it's "misshappen head". It opened up a great convo. I see her tomorrow... I'm gonna ask her what the ped said. :-) Jen and Luli - 27 months Left tort - Right Plagio - Hanger Band Grad - CA http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/jens5th/ Re: Is it just me? I find myself looking at men and babies heads. Men because I have a son. So how did you approach the mom? > > > > When I was pregnant, I was suddenly aware of all the pregnant women > around me. I thought > > the whole world was pregnant, but it was just that I was more > observant about it. > > > > Now that Malcolm has plagio, I check out babies' heads all the time. > I was watching a soap > > opera and there was a baby on it and I said to my husband, "Come > here. This baby totally > > has left plagio!" I know it's more common now to see plagio babies, > but I'm hyperobservant > > about it now. Am I the only one out there who notices this more now > that I'm directly > > affected by it? I never would notice before. > > > Get the MapQuest Toolbar, Maps, Traffic, Directions More! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Oh I am there with you. I am always looking at the shape of other baby's head. I don't think I always am looking because I see a problem, but I think I am still comparing other heads to my son's. I know that is a bad thing to do, but I guess I am still in denial. Jenn > > When I was pregnant, I was suddenly aware of all the pregnant women around me. I thought > the whole world was pregnant, but it was just that I was more observant about it. > > Now that Malcolm has plagio, I check out babies' heads all the time. I was watching a soap > opera and there was a baby on it and I said to my husband, " Come here. This baby totally > has left plagio! " I know it's more common now to see plagio babies, but I'm hyperobservant > about it now. Am I the only one out there who notices this more now that I'm directly > affected by it? I never would notice before. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 There are two other children in my son's daycare which I think would benefit from a band but I don't dare say anything. I know that they have seen Adam's band and I would assume that if they had questions, they would ask. One probably has moderate brachy and the other moderate right plagio, although I am not a doctor. Anyways, it is hard not to notice these things when you are constantly analyzing your own child's head. I'm just glad that all of our children are getting the help they need and when they are done people won't be looking at their heads and seeing asymmetry. <jenssunsh1ne@...> wrote: Oh I am there with you. I am always looking at the shape of other baby's head. I don't think I always am looking because I see a problem, but I think I am still comparing other heads to my son's. I know that is a bad thing to do, but I guess I am still in denial.Jenn>> When I was pregnant, I was suddenly aware of all the pregnant women around me. I thought > the whole world was pregnant, but it was just that I was more observant about it.> > Now that Malcolm has plagio, I check out babies' heads all the time. I was watching a soap > opera and there was a baby on it and I said to my husband, "Come here. This baby totally > has left plagio!" I know it's more common now to see plagio babies, but I'm hyperobservant > about it now. Am I the only one out there who notices this more now that I'm directly > affected by it? I never would notice before.> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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