Basic supplements while chelating

[Guest guest]

>Can you tell me what the common suppliments are in order to sustain

>chelation that you are suggesting?

I think this covers the basics: (maybe others can add or remove if they know

better)

VITAMIN B - 12.5 - 25 mg four times a day. Can split a " B-50 " or " B-100 "

tablet

VITAMIN C - 4 grams, one with each meal and one at bedtime. Can take up to

12 grams to reduce side-effects of chelation and oxidative damage cause by

mercury.

VITAMIN E - 1200iu or greater divided into smaller doses and taken

throughout the day. VERY IMPORTANT. Vit. E is a potent anti-oxidant and will

balance out the over-oxidizing effect of moving metals, and mercury in

particular. Mercury causes oxidative damage wherever it goes and Vit. E and

Vit. C help to repair it. Use natural Vit E (begins with a d- no a dl-)

MAGNESIUM - in absorbable forms like citrate, malate, aspartate, or amino

acid chelate - 50-100mg several times a day up to 750 mg and adjust lower if

getting diarrhoea. Do not use Magnesium Oxide as it uses up stomach acid,

especially important for those with weak adrenals. Magnesium is one of the

supplements that poisoned people need a lot of. You can also take

pharmaceutical grade Epsom Salts (Magnesium Sulphate) 1/4 - 1/2 teaspoon 4

times a day (don't take Epsom salts at the same time as Calcium supplements)

ZINC - 50 - 100 mg spread out during day (especially copper toxic people)

FLAX OIL - 1 tablespoon per day, take some fish oils also.

VITAMIN A - 5 RDA's per day. Can use the mercury-free fish oils to supply

this.

MOLYBDENUM 1000mcg per day. This is very important for 'copper toxic' people

as molybdenum (along with zinc) prevents copper absorption. It is also

important to use when using ALA as ALA reduces copper excretion in the bile.

KIDNEY HERBS - especially with DMSA

LIVER HERBS - especially with ALA

MELATONIN if trouble sleeping. Not otherwise

ACTIVATED CHARCOAL is used ONLY at time of amalgam removal. It only helps

with current ingestion of toxins as is not to be taken regularly.

EPSOM SALT BATHS are excellent to provide sulphate and can be done daily!

SAUNAS are one of the quickest ways to bring the body burden of mercury down

after stopping exposure. Avoid Far Infra-red saunas.

An ALKALINE URINE is important for chelation until pH is 8 or more.

According to Andy Cutler " The thiol based chelators will drop off some of

the metals in the kidneys if the urine is too acidic " . You can test your

morning pH.

[Guest guest]

Hi Dean

Thanks for writing a basic supplement summary.

A couple of comments.

On p 133 of AI for flax oil, it says 15-50 g. I usually say 1-2 T.

Fish oil would be preferable as a source of omega 3 as long as it

doesn't contain mercury and other contaminants. I *think* that Andy

recommends flax oil because it is less expensive (and surely shouldn't

be contaminated with mercury). In the autism mercury supplement file

it says - essential fatty acids (fish or flax oil) 1-3 T.

I'm not sure what you mean by kidney herbs?

I'm also not sure what you mean by liver herbs. My understanding is

that Andy recommends milk thistle extract. I'm not sure if there are

others he recommends (maybe artichoke??). I think there are some he

suggests to avoid (like dandelion), and I don't know why.

J

>

> >Can you tell me what the common suppliments are in order to sustain

> >chelation that you are suggesting?

>

> I think this covers the basics: (maybe others can add or remove if

they know

> better)

>

> VITAMIN B - 12.5 - 25 mg four times a day. Can split a " B-50 " or " B-100 "

> tablet

> VITAMIN C - 4 grams, one with each meal and one at bedtime. Can take

up to

> 12 grams to reduce side-effects of chelation and oxidative damage

cause by

> mercury.

> VITAMIN E - 1200iu or greater divided into smaller doses and taken

> throughout the day. VERY IMPORTANT. Vit. E is a potent anti-oxidant

and will

> balance out the over-oxidizing effect of moving metals, and mercury in

> particular. Mercury causes oxidative damage wherever it goes and

Vit. E and

> Vit. C help to repair it. Use natural Vit E (begins with a d- no a dl-)

> MAGNESIUM - in absorbable forms like citrate, malate, aspartate, or

amino

> acid chelate - 50-100mg several times a day up to 750 mg and adjust

lower if

> getting diarrhoea. Do not use Magnesium Oxide as it uses up stomach

acid,

> especially important for those with weak adrenals. Magnesium is one

of the

> supplements that poisoned people need a lot of. You can also take

> pharmaceutical grade Epsom Salts (Magnesium Sulphate) 1/4 - 1/2

teaspoon 4

> times a day (don't take Epsom salts at the same time as Calcium

supplements)

> ZINC - 50 - 100 mg spread out during day (especially copper toxic

people)

> FLAX OIL - 1 tablespoon per day, take some fish oils also.

> VITAMIN A - 5 RDA's per day. Can use the mercury-free fish oils to

supply

> this.

> MOLYBDENUM 1000mcg per day. This is very important for 'copper

toxic' people

> as molybdenum (along with zinc) prevents copper absorption. It is also

> important to use when using ALA as ALA reduces copper excretion in

the bile.

> KIDNEY HERBS - especially with DMSA

> LIVER HERBS - especially with ALA

> MELATONIN if trouble sleeping. Not otherwise

> ACTIVATED CHARCOAL is used ONLY at time of amalgam removal. It only

helps

> with current ingestion of toxins as is not to be taken regularly.

> EPSOM SALT BATHS are excellent to provide sulphate and can be done

daily!

> SAUNAS are one of the quickest ways to bring the body burden of

mercury down

> after stopping exposure. Avoid Far Infra-red saunas.

> An ALKALINE URINE is important for chelation until pH is 8 or more.

> According to Andy Cutler " The thiol based chelators will drop off

some of

> the metals in the kidneys if the urine is too acidic " . You can test your

> morning pH.

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> > I'm not sure what you mean by kidney herbs?

>

> Yes, what are kidney herbs, please?

>

>

> > > SAUNAS are one of the quickest ways to bring the body burden of

> mercury down after stopping exposure. Avoid Far Infra-red saunas.

>

> What is the difference in saunas --why not FIR saunas?

You can find some of Andy's comments on sauna in the Files.

It comes down to the fact that he has had lots of reports of

people having significant increased symptoms with FIR sauna,

and not with regular sauna. The source of the problems is

partly the glues used in construction and other toxins present

in the material, partly the heaters which cause the body to

heat unevenly, and partly false advertising about the foregoing

information by the companies that sell them.

> > > An ALKALINE URINE is important for chelation until pH is 8 or more.

> > > According to Andy Cutler " The thiol based chelators will drop off

> > some of

> > > the metals in the kidneys if the urine is too acidic " . You can

> test your

> > > morning pH.

>

> Urine ph seems confusing. If morning urine ph is alkaline (8-ish),

> doesn't this mean the body is actually acidic --meaing alkalinity is

> being excreted and acidity is being held in the body? Would someone

> set me straight on this please?

>

As I understand it, Andy says in the Hair Test book that alkalinizing

the urine is only necessary if you are chelating certain metals -

cadmium, silver, and (I think) gold. These metals are more prone to

be dropped in the kidneys causing damage. Alkalinizing the urine is

meant to prevent this.

This is distinct from the issue of alkalinizing the body by reducing

intake of acid foods and taking more alkaline foods in an effort

to get rid of acid wastes.

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