Re: supporting with hc only

[Guest guest]

Adrenal;s do not cause the thyroid GLAND to underfunction that I know

of. Where the adrenals interfere with thyroid function is in the

utilization of the thyroid hormones, in other words the thyroid is still

making the proper amount of thyroid hormones just the body cannot use it

due to low cortiosl. Thus when you correct the cortisll IF THAT IS THE

ONLY PROBLEM, the thyroid levels auto correct. So no, if the thyroid is

underfunctioning it si separate and due to the thyroid, nto the

adrenals, and correcting the low cortiso will not correct the low thyroid.

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[Guest guest]

Adrenal;s do not cause the thyroid GLAND to underfunction that I know

of. Where the adrenals interfere with thyroid function is in the

utilization of the thyroid hormones, in other words the thyroid is still

making the proper amount of thyroid hormones just the body cannot use it

due to low cortiosl. Thus when you correct the cortisll IF THAT IS THE

ONLY PROBLEM, the thyroid levels auto correct. So no, if the thyroid is

underfunctioning it si separate and due to the thyroid, nto the

adrenals, and correcting the low cortiso will not correct the low thyroid.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

Hi Val

I read Dr. Poesnecker's book and he says there that long term high

cortisol(hyperadrenal) --which occurs at stage 3- will cause thyroid functioning

go low as these two work in cooperation?But i don't know what will happen to

thyroid functioning when adrenals go low at later stages.

What do you think?

bw

Nil

Re: supporting with hc only

Adrenal;s do not cause the thyroid GLAND to underfunction that I know

of. Where the adrenals interfere with thyroid function is in the

utilization of the thyroid hormones, in other words the thyroid is still

making the proper amount of thyroid hormones just the body cannot use it

due to low cortiosl. Thus when you correct the cortisll IF THAT IS THE

ONLY PROBLEM, the thyroid levels auto correct. So no, if the thyroid is

underfunctioning it si separate and due to the thyroid, nto the

adrenals, and correcting the low cortiso will not correct the low thyroid.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

[Guest guest]

Hi Val

I read Dr. Poesnecker's book and he says there that long term high

cortisol(hyperadrenal) --which occurs at stage 3- will cause thyroid functioning

go low as these two work in cooperation?But i don't know what will happen to

thyroid functioning when adrenals go low at later stages.

What do you think?

bw

Nil

Re: supporting with hc only

Adrenal;s do not cause the thyroid GLAND to underfunction that I know

of. Where the adrenals interfere with thyroid function is in the

utilization of the thyroid hormones, in other words the thyroid is still

making the proper amount of thyroid hormones just the body cannot use it

due to low cortiosl. Thus when you correct the cortisll IF THAT IS THE

ONLY PROBLEM, the thyroid levels auto correct. So no, if the thyroid is

underfunctioning it si separate and due to the thyroid, nto the

adrenals, and correcting the low cortiso will not correct the low thyroid.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

[Guest guest]

Hi Val

I read Dr. Poesnecker's book and he says there that long term high

cortisol(hyperadrenal) --which occurs at stage 3- will cause thyroid functioning

go low as these two work in cooperation?But i don't know what will happen to

thyroid functioning when adrenals go low at later stages.

What do you think?

bw

Nil

Re: supporting with hc only

Adrenal;s do not cause the thyroid GLAND to underfunction that I know

of. Where the adrenals interfere with thyroid function is in the

utilization of the thyroid hormones, in other words the thyroid is still

making the proper amount of thyroid hormones just the body cannot use it

due to low cortiosl. Thus when you correct the cortisll IF THAT IS THE

ONLY PROBLEM, the thyroid levels auto correct. So no, if the thyroid is

underfunctioning it si separate and due to the thyroid, nto the

adrenals, and correcting the low cortiso will not correct the low thyroid.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

[Guest guest]

Adrenal;s do not cause the thyroid GLAND to underfunction that I know

of. Where the adrenals interfere with thyroid function is in the

utilization of the thyroid hormones, in other words the thyroid is still

making the proper amount of thyroid hormones just the body cannot use it

due to low cortiosl. Thus when you correct the cortisll IF THAT IS THE

ONLY PROBLEM, the thyroid levels auto correct.

val

if that is the case would temperatures be still low?(When thyroids making

proper amount of thyroid hormones but body can not use it due to low cortisol?)

thanks a lot.

nil

[Guest guest]

Adrenal;s do not cause the thyroid GLAND to underfunction that I know

of. Where the adrenals interfere with thyroid function is in the

utilization of the thyroid hormones, in other words the thyroid is still

making the proper amount of thyroid hormones just the body cannot use it

due to low cortiosl. Thus when you correct the cortisll IF THAT IS THE

ONLY PROBLEM, the thyroid levels auto correct.

val

if that is the case would temperatures be still low?(When thyroids making

proper amount of thyroid hormones but body can not use it due to low cortisol?)

thanks a lot.

nil

[Guest guest]

Adrenal;s do not cause the thyroid GLAND to underfunction that I know

of. Where the adrenals interfere with thyroid function is in the

utilization of the thyroid hormones, in other words the thyroid is still

making the proper amount of thyroid hormones just the body cannot use it

due to low cortiosl. Thus when you correct the cortisll IF THAT IS THE

ONLY PROBLEM, the thyroid levels auto correct.

val

if that is the case would temperatures be still low?(When thyroids making

proper amount of thyroid hormones but body can not use it due to low cortisol?)

thanks a lot.

nil

[Guest guest]

>> if that is the case would temperatures be still low?(When thyroids making

proper amount of thyroid hormones but body can not use it due to low cortisol?)

<<

Yes but if the thyroid is producing the correct hormones as soon as the cortiosl

levels are brought up the thyrodi is available to work and the temps shoudl come

up to nirmal IF the thyroid is functioning well or there is enough thyroid being

taken.

--

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

>> if that is the case would temperatures be still low?(When thyroids making

proper amount of thyroid hormones but body can not use it due to low cortisol?)

<<

Yes but if the thyroid is producing the correct hormones as soon as the cortiosl

levels are brought up the thyrodi is available to work and the temps shoudl come

up to nirmal IF the thyroid is functioning well or there is enough thyroid being

taken.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

>> if that is the case would temperatures be still low?(When thyroids making

proper amount of thyroid hormones but body can not use it due to low cortisol?)

<<

Yes but if the thyroid is producing the correct hormones as soon as the cortiosl

levels are brought up the thyrodi is available to work and the temps shoudl come

up to nirmal IF the thyroid is functioning well or there is enough thyroid being

taken.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

>>I read Dr. Poesnecker's book and he says there that long term high

cortisol(hyperadrenal) --which occurs at stage 3- will cause thyroid functioning

go low as these two work in cooperation?But i don't know what will happen to

thyroid functioning when adrenals go low at later stages.

What do you think?<<

High cortil causes hypothyroidism by blocking the conversion of T4 to T3 NOT by

interfering wiht the gland's thyroid production. I believe he is speaking in

what I call " Idiot Speak " or terms the general public should understand rather

than medically correct terms which would be that high cortils blocks conversion.

General public does nto understand there are several thyroid hormones nor which

ones are active nor why.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

>>I read Dr. Poesnecker's book and he says there that long term high

cortisol(hyperadrenal) --which occurs at stage 3- will cause thyroid functioning

go low as these two work in cooperation?But i don't know what will happen to

thyroid functioning when adrenals go low at later stages.

What do you think?<<

High cortil causes hypothyroidism by blocking the conversion of T4 to T3 NOT by

interfering wiht the gland's thyroid production. I believe he is speaking in

what I call " Idiot Speak " or terms the general public should understand rather

than medically correct terms which would be that high cortils blocks conversion.

General public does nto understand there are several thyroid hormones nor which

ones are active nor why.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

>>I read Dr. Poesnecker's book and he says there that long term high

cortisol(hyperadrenal) --which occurs at stage 3- will cause thyroid functioning

go low as these two work in cooperation?But i don't know what will happen to

thyroid functioning when adrenals go low at later stages.

What do you think?<<

High cortil causes hypothyroidism by blocking the conversion of T4 to T3 NOT by

interfering wiht the gland's thyroid production. I believe he is speaking in

what I call " Idiot Speak " or terms the general public should understand rather

than medically correct terms which would be that high cortils blocks conversion.

General public does nto understand there are several thyroid hormones nor which

ones are active nor why.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

Further to this, he is talking about cortisl interfering wiht the

Thyroid HORMONE function not the gland itself.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

Further to this, he is talking about cortisl interfering wiht the

Thyroid HORMONE function not the gland itself.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

Further to this, he is talking about cortisl interfering wiht the

Thyroid HORMONE function not the gland itself.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

Thanks very much for all the info you have given Val..

Best wishes.

Nil

Re: supporting with hc only

>> if that is the case would temperatures be still low?(When thyroids making

proper amount of thyroid hormones but body can not use it due to low cortisol?)

<<

[Guest guest]

hi val and nil...ok how about the flip side of the coin then meaning

can low thyroid supress your cortisol levels causing adrenal fatigue

and once the hypo is corrected the cortisol levels will be too?

>

> Thanks very much for all the info you have given Val..

> Best wishes.

> Nil

> Re: supporting with hc only

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> >> if that is the case would temperatures be still low?(When

thyroids making proper amount of thyroid hormones but body can not

use it due to low cortisol?) <<

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>

>

[Guest guest]

hi val and nil...ok how about the flip side of the coin then meaning

can low thyroid supress your cortisol levels causing adrenal fatigue

and once the hypo is corrected the cortisol levels will be too?

>

> Thanks very much for all the info you have given Val..

> Best wishes.

> Nil

> Re: supporting with hc only

>

>

> >> if that is the case would temperatures be still low?(When

thyroids making proper amount of thyroid hormones but body can not

use it due to low cortisol?) <<

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

" shar_141414 " wrote:

>

> hi val and nil...ok how about the flip side of the coin then

meaning

> can low thyroid supress your cortisol levels causing adrenal

fatigue

> and once the hypo is corrected the cortisol levels will be too?

I think that's what we're all trying to do with the protocol here.

Support adrenals to enable you to tolerate optimal thyroid, then wean

off adrenal support. The way I understand it, the thyroid and

adrenals are linked together like a seesaw, and ideally, the seesaw

is perfectly horizontal, meaning thyroid optimal, adrenals optimal.

When the function of either decreases, the other also has to

simultaneously lower, so that it doesn't burn itself out. Only after

I lowered my thyroid from 1.5 grain to .5 grain did I develop severe

hypoglycemia and other low cortisol symptoms. So it was like my

adrenals down-regulated themselves to match my low thyroid levels.

As I brought my thyroid dosage slowly back up, the hypoglycemia went

away, like my adrenals were coming back up.

Barb

[Guest guest]

>>hi val and nil...ok how about the flip side of the coin then meaning

can low thyroid supress your cortisol levels causing adrenal fatigue

and once the hypo is corrected the cortisol levels will be too?<<

YES it has been proven that hypothyroidism slows down the function of evey other

orgam in the body and also the responsiveness of the HPA axis as well.

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

>>hi val and nil...ok how about the flip side of the coin then meaning

can low thyroid supress your cortisol levels causing adrenal fatigue

and once the hypo is corrected the cortisol levels will be too?<<

YES it has been proven that hypothyroidism slows down the function of evey other

orgam in the body and also the responsiveness of the HPA axis as well.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

Barb wrote:

> Only after

> I lowered my thyroid from 1.5 grain to .5 grain did I develop severe

> hypoglycemia and other low cortisol symptoms. So it was like my

> adrenals down-regulated themselves to match my low thyroid levels.

> As I brought my thyroid dosage slowly back up, the hypoglycemia went

> away, like my adrenals were coming back up.

>

Barb,

Hi, it sounds to me like you caught the lowering cortisol in time to

fix the adrenal stress quickly. Good for you!

sol