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*on a follow up note to the below, i have also read many articles

stating that low cortisol is the culprit of

aggressive/impulsive/violent feelings and behavior but i wasn't

feeling this way until taking the HC. another possibility is i'm not

getting enough? i'm so confused! :(

>

> hi all...this is pretty embarrassing and scary for me so at first

i

> just wrote val privately but realize i have to stretch my neck out

> and be brave sharing...afterall that's the point of the group

right?

>

> so as awkward as it is, my question has to do with aggressive

> feelings and HC. i switched from the IC to HC just recently and

can

> already tell a difference on several levels with being more alert,

> more awake, more energetic and that the armour effects seem to be

> kicking in even more.

>

> on the one hand i love this (and btw NEED THIS as my cortisol

levels

> were flatlined) but on the other hand i have been so incredibly

and

> uncontrollably angry, feeling aggressive, irritable and impulsive

> it's actually SCARING me. i have had these same side effects when

i

> tried pregnenolone and DHEA so i am certain it can all be related

> whatever it is doing to cause me to feel this way. i'm only taking

5-

> 2.5-2.5 a day now which i would think is relatively a small dose

and

> shouldn't cause this.

>

> like i said i'm feeling the benefits so much more than IC yet the

> negatives are SO bad they are scaring me how angry/aggressive i've

> been. has anyone else ever experienced this? do you have any

> suggestions? maybe i'm too sensitive to it and only need a tiny

dose

> even though my cortisol levels were flatlined? should i continue

it

> on a lower dose or go back to IC or use HC cream even? anything

you

> could suggest would really help and explanations as to why the HC

is

> making me feel this way too i would.

>

> thank you so much for all your help...these feeling are

petrifiying

> me!

>

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*on a follow up note to the below, i have also read many articles

stating that low cortisol is the culprit of

aggressive/impulsive/violent feelings and behavior but i wasn't

feeling this way until taking the HC. another possibility is i'm not

getting enough? i'm so confused! :(

>

> hi all...this is pretty embarrassing and scary for me so at first

i

> just wrote val privately but realize i have to stretch my neck out

> and be brave sharing...afterall that's the point of the group

right?

>

> so as awkward as it is, my question has to do with aggressive

> feelings and HC. i switched from the IC to HC just recently and

can

> already tell a difference on several levels with being more alert,

> more awake, more energetic and that the armour effects seem to be

> kicking in even more.

>

> on the one hand i love this (and btw NEED THIS as my cortisol

levels

> were flatlined) but on the other hand i have been so incredibly

and

> uncontrollably angry, feeling aggressive, irritable and impulsive

> it's actually SCARING me. i have had these same side effects when

i

> tried pregnenolone and DHEA so i am certain it can all be related

> whatever it is doing to cause me to feel this way. i'm only taking

5-

> 2.5-2.5 a day now which i would think is relatively a small dose

and

> shouldn't cause this.

>

> like i said i'm feeling the benefits so much more than IC yet the

> negatives are SO bad they are scaring me how angry/aggressive i've

> been. has anyone else ever experienced this? do you have any

> suggestions? maybe i'm too sensitive to it and only need a tiny

dose

> even though my cortisol levels were flatlined? should i continue

it

> on a lower dose or go back to IC or use HC cream even? anything

you

> could suggest would really help and explanations as to why the HC

is

> making me feel this way too i would.

>

> thank you so much for all your help...these feeling are

petrifiying

> me!

>

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*on a follow up note to the below, i have also read many articles

stating that low cortisol is the culprit of

aggressive/impulsive/violent feelings and behavior but i wasn't

feeling this way until taking the HC. another possibility is i'm not

getting enough? i'm so confused! :(

>

> hi all...this is pretty embarrassing and scary for me so at first

i

> just wrote val privately but realize i have to stretch my neck out

> and be brave sharing...afterall that's the point of the group

right?

>

> so as awkward as it is, my question has to do with aggressive

> feelings and HC. i switched from the IC to HC just recently and

can

> already tell a difference on several levels with being more alert,

> more awake, more energetic and that the armour effects seem to be

> kicking in even more.

>

> on the one hand i love this (and btw NEED THIS as my cortisol

levels

> were flatlined) but on the other hand i have been so incredibly

and

> uncontrollably angry, feeling aggressive, irritable and impulsive

> it's actually SCARING me. i have had these same side effects when

i

> tried pregnenolone and DHEA so i am certain it can all be related

> whatever it is doing to cause me to feel this way. i'm only taking

5-

> 2.5-2.5 a day now which i would think is relatively a small dose

and

> shouldn't cause this.

>

> like i said i'm feeling the benefits so much more than IC yet the

> negatives are SO bad they are scaring me how angry/aggressive i've

> been. has anyone else ever experienced this? do you have any

> suggestions? maybe i'm too sensitive to it and only need a tiny

dose

> even though my cortisol levels were flatlined? should i continue

it

> on a lower dose or go back to IC or use HC cream even? anything

you

> could suggest would really help and explanations as to why the HC

is

> making me feel this way too i would.

>

> thank you so much for all your help...these feeling are

petrifiying

> me!

>

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Are you tracking your temps at all? Does the angry feeling happen all day or

at certain times? How long after you take your HC does it happen? I'm

wondering if you might need more, but please be careful ramping up since you

are on Armour. HC makes me calmer, BUT when I've started to be able to tell

when I'm getting low in cortisol because I become very irratible and I start

dropping things left and right. When you first start on HC, your symptoms

can sometimes get a bit worse, not just from hypot symptoms, but from more

low cortisol symptoms. The way I picture it in my head is my cells were on a

starvation diet of low cortisol for a long time, then when I added a tiny

bit in, they were saying " Hey! That's what we want! " So after the HC I took

wore off they started screaming for MORE NOW! Hence the low cortisol

symptoms. I would get dizzy, more fatigued, irritable, and nauseous. So what

I'm wondering is if you take the HC and if it wears off if that is what is

causing the angry aggressive feelings. Hope that makes sense!

Rie

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy

enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright

>

> like i said i'm feeling the benefits so much more than IC yet the

> negatives are SO bad they are scaring me how angry/aggressive i've

> been. has anyone else ever experienced this? do you have any

> suggestions? maybe i'm too sensitive to it and only need a tiny dose

> even though my cortisol levels were flatlined? should i continue it

> on a lower dose or go back to IC or use HC cream even? anything you

> could suggest would really help and explanations as to why the HC is

> making me feel this way too i would.

>

> thank you so much for all your help...these feeling are petrifiying

> me!

>

>

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Are you tracking your temps at all? Does the angry feeling happen all day or

at certain times? How long after you take your HC does it happen? I'm

wondering if you might need more, but please be careful ramping up since you

are on Armour. HC makes me calmer, BUT when I've started to be able to tell

when I'm getting low in cortisol because I become very irratible and I start

dropping things left and right. When you first start on HC, your symptoms

can sometimes get a bit worse, not just from hypot symptoms, but from more

low cortisol symptoms. The way I picture it in my head is my cells were on a

starvation diet of low cortisol for a long time, then when I added a tiny

bit in, they were saying " Hey! That's what we want! " So after the HC I took

wore off they started screaming for MORE NOW! Hence the low cortisol

symptoms. I would get dizzy, more fatigued, irritable, and nauseous. So what

I'm wondering is if you take the HC and if it wears off if that is what is

causing the angry aggressive feelings. Hope that makes sense!

Rie

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy

enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright

>

> like i said i'm feeling the benefits so much more than IC yet the

> negatives are SO bad they are scaring me how angry/aggressive i've

> been. has anyone else ever experienced this? do you have any

> suggestions? maybe i'm too sensitive to it and only need a tiny dose

> even though my cortisol levels were flatlined? should i continue it

> on a lower dose or go back to IC or use HC cream even? anything you

> could suggest would really help and explanations as to why the HC is

> making me feel this way too i would.

>

> thank you so much for all your help...these feeling are petrifiying

> me!

>

>

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hi rie...actually what seems interesting i noted is that the

aggressive/angry feelings don't happen all day...in fact they seem

to come around hours after i've taken it when i'm ready for the next

dose, so i too wondered if perhaps i needed more instead. also i

wonder since my levels were flatlined and my body hasn't been used

to cortisol for so long that not only is it begging for more but

even the tiniest amount is making me sensitive so i'm feeling this

way. i'm just so confused bc i've read this can be a symptom of low

cortisol or a side effect of HC and scared to ramp up bc i am not

sure which is which. i haven't been monitoring my temps which would

probably answer this if showing i'm needing more adrenal support

then likely the feelings were due to low cortisol? i guess i'll

start that and see. i'd hate to have to stop it for that when my

body obviously has been needing it!

>

> Are you tracking your temps at all? Does the angry feeling happen

all day or

> at certain times? How long after you take your HC does it happen?

I'm

> wondering if you might need more, but please be careful ramping up

since you

> are on Armour. HC makes me calmer, BUT when I've started to be

able to tell

> when I'm getting low in cortisol because I become very irratible

and I start

> dropping things left and right. When you first start on HC, your

symptoms

> can sometimes get a bit worse, not just from hypot symptoms, but

from more

> low cortisol symptoms. The way I picture it in my head is my cells

were on a

> starvation diet of low cortisol for a long time, then when I added

a tiny

> bit in, they were saying " Hey! That's what we want! " So after the

HC I took

> wore off they started screaming for MORE NOW! Hence the low

cortisol

> symptoms. I would get dizzy, more fatigued, irritable, and

nauseous. So what

> I'm wondering is if you take the HC and if it wears off if that is

what is

> causing the angry aggressive feelings. Hope that makes sense!

>

> Rie

>

> A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will

annoy

> enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright

>

>

> >

> > like i said i'm feeling the benefits so much more than IC yet the

> > negatives are SO bad they are scaring me how angry/aggressive

i've

> > been. has anyone else ever experienced this? do you have any

> > suggestions? maybe i'm too sensitive to it and only need a tiny

dose

> > even though my cortisol levels were flatlined? should i continue

it

> > on a lower dose or go back to IC or use HC cream even? anything

you

> > could suggest would really help and explanations as to why the

HC is

> > making me feel this way too i would.

> >

> > thank you so much for all your help...these feeling are

petrifiying

> > me!

> >

> >

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hi rie...actually what seems interesting i noted is that the

aggressive/angry feelings don't happen all day...in fact they seem

to come around hours after i've taken it when i'm ready for the next

dose, so i too wondered if perhaps i needed more instead. also i

wonder since my levels were flatlined and my body hasn't been used

to cortisol for so long that not only is it begging for more but

even the tiniest amount is making me sensitive so i'm feeling this

way. i'm just so confused bc i've read this can be a symptom of low

cortisol or a side effect of HC and scared to ramp up bc i am not

sure which is which. i haven't been monitoring my temps which would

probably answer this if showing i'm needing more adrenal support

then likely the feelings were due to low cortisol? i guess i'll

start that and see. i'd hate to have to stop it for that when my

body obviously has been needing it!

>

> Are you tracking your temps at all? Does the angry feeling happen

all day or

> at certain times? How long after you take your HC does it happen?

I'm

> wondering if you might need more, but please be careful ramping up

since you

> are on Armour. HC makes me calmer, BUT when I've started to be

able to tell

> when I'm getting low in cortisol because I become very irratible

and I start

> dropping things left and right. When you first start on HC, your

symptoms

> can sometimes get a bit worse, not just from hypot symptoms, but

from more

> low cortisol symptoms. The way I picture it in my head is my cells

were on a

> starvation diet of low cortisol for a long time, then when I added

a tiny

> bit in, they were saying " Hey! That's what we want! " So after the

HC I took

> wore off they started screaming for MORE NOW! Hence the low

cortisol

> symptoms. I would get dizzy, more fatigued, irritable, and

nauseous. So what

> I'm wondering is if you take the HC and if it wears off if that is

what is

> causing the angry aggressive feelings. Hope that makes sense!

>

> Rie

>

> A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will

annoy

> enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright

>

>

> >

> > like i said i'm feeling the benefits so much more than IC yet the

> > negatives are SO bad they are scaring me how angry/aggressive

i've

> > been. has anyone else ever experienced this? do you have any

> > suggestions? maybe i'm too sensitive to it and only need a tiny

dose

> > even though my cortisol levels were flatlined? should i continue

it

> > on a lower dose or go back to IC or use HC cream even? anything

you

> > could suggest would really help and explanations as to why the

HC is

> > making me feel this way too i would.

> >

> > thank you so much for all your help...these feeling are

petrifiying

> > me!

> >

> >

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hi rie...actually what seems interesting i noted is that the

aggressive/angry feelings don't happen all day...in fact they seem

to come around hours after i've taken it when i'm ready for the next

dose, so i too wondered if perhaps i needed more instead. also i

wonder since my levels were flatlined and my body hasn't been used

to cortisol for so long that not only is it begging for more but

even the tiniest amount is making me sensitive so i'm feeling this

way. i'm just so confused bc i've read this can be a symptom of low

cortisol or a side effect of HC and scared to ramp up bc i am not

sure which is which. i haven't been monitoring my temps which would

probably answer this if showing i'm needing more adrenal support

then likely the feelings were due to low cortisol? i guess i'll

start that and see. i'd hate to have to stop it for that when my

body obviously has been needing it!

>

> Are you tracking your temps at all? Does the angry feeling happen

all day or

> at certain times? How long after you take your HC does it happen?

I'm

> wondering if you might need more, but please be careful ramping up

since you

> are on Armour. HC makes me calmer, BUT when I've started to be

able to tell

> when I'm getting low in cortisol because I become very irratible

and I start

> dropping things left and right. When you first start on HC, your

symptoms

> can sometimes get a bit worse, not just from hypot symptoms, but

from more

> low cortisol symptoms. The way I picture it in my head is my cells

were on a

> starvation diet of low cortisol for a long time, then when I added

a tiny

> bit in, they were saying " Hey! That's what we want! " So after the

HC I took

> wore off they started screaming for MORE NOW! Hence the low

cortisol

> symptoms. I would get dizzy, more fatigued, irritable, and

nauseous. So what

> I'm wondering is if you take the HC and if it wears off if that is

what is

> causing the angry aggressive feelings. Hope that makes sense!

>

> Rie

>

> A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will

annoy

> enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright

>

>

> >

> > like i said i'm feeling the benefits so much more than IC yet the

> > negatives are SO bad they are scaring me how angry/aggressive

i've

> > been. has anyone else ever experienced this? do you have any

> > suggestions? maybe i'm too sensitive to it and only need a tiny

dose

> > even though my cortisol levels were flatlined? should i continue

it

> > on a lower dose or go back to IC or use HC cream even? anything

you

> > could suggest would really help and explanations as to why the

HC is

> > making me feel this way too i would.

> >

> > thank you so much for all your help...these feeling are

petrifiying

> > me!

> >

> >

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> they seem to come around hours after i've taken it when i'm ready

> for the next

> dose, so i too wondered if perhaps i needed more instead

>

You might try decreasing the time between doses to 3 hours -

although this might change the amounts taken.

Jim

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> they seem to come around hours after i've taken it when i'm ready

> for the next

> dose, so i too wondered if perhaps i needed more instead

>

You might try decreasing the time between doses to 3 hours -

although this might change the amounts taken.

Jim

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