Re: finally got all my lab work done ,please help interpret it...

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Hello Val, thank you for reading my long post. what do i do now? i

believe i have done all the testing thats needed to find out whats

going on. does my sleep/wake schedule really prevent someone from

figureing out whats up? my sodium is very low too-SODIUM 135 RANGE136-146.

what do i need to do for hypo-pit? i dont think a doc will give me

Florinef and im a little scared of taking it. i have read the posts

where people have some problems with it. im waiting for chris to come

back on the forum , i would like feedback from you and chris on what

i should do. as well as what to tell my doc or ask her, i have an

appointment on mon the 18 of Feb.

thank you very much.

sherie

Heres my saliva cortisol tests results- done early nov 07 -

I also want to post my saliva test collection times, i was told to do

them to " my " day.

( MY saliva test times)=

700AM - 800AM Morning= my time-about 10:00pm

1100AM- Noon= my time -about 2:00am

400PM -500PM Afternoon= my time-about 6:00 am

1100PM Midnight= my time-about 1:00pm

____________ _________ ____

( My saliva test results) =

* time* *result* * ref- values*

700AM - 800AM morning = 14 normal 13-24nM

1100AM noon = 7 normal 5-10nM

400PM -500PM Afternoon= 6 normal 3-8nM

1100PM Midnight= 11 elevated 1-4nM

Cortisol Burden: 38 23--42

DHEA= 6 normal 3-10 ng/ml

Cortisol -DHEA Correlation = i believe its in the " reference

range area "

>

> Actually your cortiosl levels do not lok reqally bad but due ot the

> timing of the tests and your work schedule, it is next to impossible to

> tell if you have AF from these. Have you done the saliva cortiosl labs?

> Those would be most useful especially as you are not on a normal

> wake/sleep cycle. Your aldosterone is to olow, you woul dbenefit fro m

> Florinef. And as renin is also less than half the range it woul dpoint

> ot a pit problem but you won;t be diagnosed from these labs. If your

pit

> is underfuncitoning which I believe it is, then it si only partially

> underfunctioning and not ful failure. These are the inbetween numbers

> that doctors can;t diagnose from but you are stil not well. A doc that

> is a Synthroid freak is not liekly to be any help here either. They are

> by the book and will probably tell you you need antidepressants.

>

> --

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>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

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> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

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Hello Val, thank you for reading my long post. what do i do now? i

believe i have done all the testing thats needed to find out whats

going on. does my sleep/wake schedule really prevent someone from

figureing out whats up? my sodium is very low too-SODIUM 135 RANGE136-146.

what do i need to do for hypo-pit? i dont think a doc will give me

Florinef and im a little scared of taking it. i have read the posts

where people have some problems with it. im waiting for chris to come

back on the forum , i would like feedback from you and chris on what

i should do. as well as what to tell my doc or ask her, i have an

appointment on mon the 18 of Feb.

thank you very much.

sherie

Heres my saliva cortisol tests results- done early nov 07 -

I also want to post my saliva test collection times, i was told to do

them to " my " day.

( MY saliva test times)=

700AM - 800AM Morning= my time-about 10:00pm

1100AM- Noon= my time -about 2:00am

400PM -500PM Afternoon= my time-about 6:00 am

1100PM Midnight= my time-about 1:00pm

____________ _________ ____

( My saliva test results) =

* time* *result* * ref- values*

700AM - 800AM morning = 14 normal 13-24nM

1100AM noon = 7 normal 5-10nM

400PM -500PM Afternoon= 6 normal 3-8nM

1100PM Midnight= 11 elevated 1-4nM

Cortisol Burden: 38 23--42

DHEA= 6 normal 3-10 ng/ml

Cortisol -DHEA Correlation = i believe its in the " reference

range area "

>

> Actually your cortiosl levels do not lok reqally bad but due ot the

> timing of the tests and your work schedule, it is next to impossible to

> tell if you have AF from these. Have you done the saliva cortiosl labs?

> Those would be most useful especially as you are not on a normal

> wake/sleep cycle. Your aldosterone is to olow, you woul dbenefit fro m

> Florinef. And as renin is also less than half the range it woul dpoint

> ot a pit problem but you won;t be diagnosed from these labs. If your

pit

> is underfuncitoning which I believe it is, then it si only partially

> underfunctioning and not ful failure. These are the inbetween numbers

> that doctors can;t diagnose from but you are stil not well. A doc that

> is a Synthroid freak is not liekly to be any help here either. They are

> by the book and will probably tell you you need antidepressants.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Val, thank you for reading my long post. what do i do now? i

believe i have done all the testing thats needed to find out whats

going on. does my sleep/wake schedule really prevent someone from

figureing out whats up? my sodium is very low too-SODIUM 135 RANGE136-146.

what do i need to do for hypo-pit? i dont think a doc will give me

Florinef and im a little scared of taking it. i have read the posts

where people have some problems with it. im waiting for chris to come

back on the forum , i would like feedback from you and chris on what

i should do. as well as what to tell my doc or ask her, i have an

appointment on mon the 18 of Feb.

thank you very much.

sherie

Heres my saliva cortisol tests results- done early nov 07 -

I also want to post my saliva test collection times, i was told to do

them to " my " day.

( MY saliva test times)=

700AM - 800AM Morning= my time-about 10:00pm

1100AM- Noon= my time -about 2:00am

400PM -500PM Afternoon= my time-about 6:00 am

1100PM Midnight= my time-about 1:00pm

____________ _________ ____

( My saliva test results) =

* time* *result* * ref- values*

700AM - 800AM morning = 14 normal 13-24nM

1100AM noon = 7 normal 5-10nM

400PM -500PM Afternoon= 6 normal 3-8nM

1100PM Midnight= 11 elevated 1-4nM

Cortisol Burden: 38 23--42

DHEA= 6 normal 3-10 ng/ml

Cortisol -DHEA Correlation = i believe its in the " reference

range area "

>

> Actually your cortiosl levels do not lok reqally bad but due ot the

> timing of the tests and your work schedule, it is next to impossible to

> tell if you have AF from these. Have you done the saliva cortiosl labs?

> Those would be most useful especially as you are not on a normal

> wake/sleep cycle. Your aldosterone is to olow, you woul dbenefit fro m

> Florinef. And as renin is also less than half the range it woul dpoint

> ot a pit problem but you won;t be diagnosed from these labs. If your

pit

> is underfuncitoning which I believe it is, then it si only partially

> underfunctioning and not ful failure. These are the inbetween numbers

> that doctors can;t diagnose from but you are stil not well. A doc that

> is a Synthroid freak is not liekly to be any help here either. They are

> by the book and will probably tell you you need antidepressants.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

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Your schedule will prevent most doctors as they go by the ranges which

are for AM levels. As this is not AM FOR YOU, it is not the levels where

you should be. To treat basically you would juts replace what ever

hormones are low same as ofr AF but most lielly you will need more

hormones such as Florinef. And possibly sex h0ormones too.

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Hi Sherielle-We are very similar. I just had the tests done and am also waiting

for Chris. My base cortisol was 14.5 and almost doubled at 27. My ACTH is 18.

The response from the doc. was " normal response " and I was in range with the

ACTH....great.

sweetwulfie wrote: Hello,

I have finally had all the blood tests done, it only took eight

months to find a doctor that would do the ACTH stim and aldosterone

and renin.I worry about having a hypo-pit problem. I have an app. with

the doc that did the ACTH, thyroid , aldosterone and renin tests on

mon the 18th of feb. Im sure she will try to push synthroid on me she

talked about it the first time I saw her, she dosent like armour. I

dont think I have the " full " ranges for the thyroid tests. I will ask

about those ranges when I see her, I will print what I have for

the thyroid tests. I was salt fasting, and did not take armour night

before the tests.

Can someone please look and tell me whats going on with these . Am I

hypo- pit?, what is going on with my adrenal glands, am I primary

or secondary? Do I need to up my thyroid med? And do I need

isocort or HC? Can I figure out whats is going on from these

tests? I dont think I would be able to get the doc to run any more , I

feel lucky that she did these. What ever is going on , I guess I will

have to self treat because the doctor thinks everything is " normal " .

****ALL THESE TESTS WERE TAKEN IN THE A.M., WHICH IS MY EVENING

BECAUSE OF SHIFT WORK.***( hope that dosent make it harder to figure out.)

------------------------------------------------

*Blood Work Jan-18-08*=

(Thyroid Studies)

TSH 0.885,...RANGE.... 0.350

T-3 89,.....RANGE... 60-18

FREE THYROXINE 1.0... RANGE ... 0.9-1

FREE T-3 2.5... RANGE... 2.0-3.5

THYROID PEROXIDA <10.0...RANGE 0.0-3

NEGATIVE FOR TPO ANTIBODIES

_________________________________________

(Miscellaneous Studies)

Aldosterone 8.8...RANGE -standing 4-31, ...supine 1-16 ( I WAS SITTING)

Renin Activity 0.6... RANGE- resting 0 - 2.7,.. random 0 - 6.0, ..

lasix 2.5 -9.1 (I WAS SITTING)

ACTH 19.. EXPECTED VALUES 10-60 A.M. DRAW (my evening time)

*Cortrosyn Stimulation Test*

Cortisol-baseline 14.0, ==....then 25.8,...then....30.9

A.M. Specimen : 1.3 - 22.1

P.M.. Specimen : 3.1-16.7

Normal response to cortrosyn stimulation is a increase of cortisol

of >7 ug/dL with a peak cortisol level of >20 ug/dL

**Under the Cortrosyn Stimulation Test the doctor wrote [ " test

normal " ,.... " wanted stimulated values >30 " ]

_______________________________________

( Blood Chemistries)

SODIUM 135 *LOW RANGE136-146 *****LOW

POTASIUM 3.8 RANGE 3.5 -5.1

CHLORIDE 99 RANGE 98-110

CARBON DIOXIDE 23 RANGE 22-29

BUN 17 RANGE 7 -18

GLUCOSE 87 RANGE 70-108

CREATIN 0.6 RANGE 0.5-1.2

CALCIUM 9.9 RANGE 8.4 -10.2

ESTIMATED GFR > 60 TRANGE >60

----------------------------------------------------------

*BLOOD WORK JAN- 23- 08*

FERRITIN 31,.. RANGE 10-291

IM A BIT CONFUSED BECAUSE=

on 6- 23 -07 my FERRITIN was =48.6, RANGE 10.0 - 291.0

on 9 -20 -07 my FERRITIN was = 50.8, 4.6- 204.0 RANGE.

Just recently on 1 -23 -08 FERRITIN serum was =31, 10.0 - 291 range

I have done nothing different, my diet is the same, im still taking

the small amount of iron that i was before,- Gentle Iron 25 mg its

iron bisglycinate (Ferrochel). My periods have always been on the

light side, so i dont think it is that.

DHEA- SULFATE 221 RANGE 45-270

(DHEA) 550 RANGE 112-722

ANDROSTENEDIONE 173 RANGE 47-268

ESTRADIOL 50 RANGE 19-528

PROGESTERONE 1.3

FOLLICULAR 0.2-1.4

LUTEAL 3.3-25.6

MID LUTEAL 4.4 -28.0

PROLACTIN 8.0 RANGE 2.8-29.2

FSH 4.9

FOLLICULAR 2.5-10.2

MIDCYCLE 3.4-33.4

LUTEAL 1.5-9.1

LH 11.7

FOLLICULAR 1.9-12.5

MIDCYCLE 8.7-76.3

LUTEAL 0.5-16.9

TESTOSTERONE, FREE AND TOTAL , SERUM 64,... RANGE 14-76

FREE TESTOSTERONE (DIRECT) 0.2 RANGE 0.0-2.2

SEX HORMONE BINDING GLOB, SERUM 101 RANGE FEMALE( NON - PREG) 18 -114

thank you for taking the time to look this over

sherielle

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