Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 You cna go to HC cream right from Iocort, but I would swap out ONE dose every 3-4 days starting wiht the AM dosing and working through the day. Monitor your temps carefully, and use a 1 pellet of Isocort per 2.5mg HC cream conversin. If your temps start averaging 99 or higher you need ot stop thyroi dand you will know this is the dose of Hc that is working for you as that is from thyroid rushing to the cells. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 You cna go to HC cream right from Iocort, but I would swap out ONE dose every 3-4 days starting wiht the AM dosing and working through the day. Monitor your temps carefully, and use a 1 pellet of Isocort per 2.5mg HC cream conversin. If your temps start averaging 99 or higher you need ot stop thyroi dand you will know this is the dose of Hc that is working for you as that is from thyroid rushing to the cells. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 You cna go to HC cream right from Iocort, but I would swap out ONE dose every 3-4 days starting wiht the AM dosing and working through the day. Monitor your temps carefully, and use a 1 pellet of Isocort per 2.5mg HC cream conversin. If your temps start averaging 99 or higher you need ot stop thyroi dand you will know this is the dose of Hc that is working for you as that is from thyroid rushing to the cells. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 what is the coversion for the cream?? How much cream equals 1 pellet??? wrote: You cna go to HC cream right from Iocort, but I would swap out ONE dose every 3-4 days starting wiht the AM dosing and working through the day. Monitor your temps carefully, and use a 1 pellet of Isocort per 2.5mg HC cream conversin. If your temps start averaging 99 or higher you need ot stop thyroi dand you will know this is the dose of Hc that is working for you as that is from thyroid rushing to the cells. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 1% HC cream continas 10MG HC per 1/4 tsp. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 1% HC cream continas 10MG HC per 1/4 tsp. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 1% HC cream continas 10MG HC per 1/4 tsp. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I use a very simple conversion of .1 ml = 1 mg HC. I just use all even numbers to make dosing easier, since my syringe is marked off in .2 ml increments. So I dose .8 ml, .6 ml, .4 ml, and .2 ml. This equates to 4 notches on the syringe, then 3, 2, and 1. It also adds up to 2 ml, which equals 20 mg. This takes into account that the cream is more potent than the pill form, since you don't lose any to digestion. The stomachache disappeared the minute I switched over, and I switched directly from Isocort, counting each pill as .2 ml or 1 notch. Barb Fred wrote: > > what is the coversion for the cream?? How much cream equals 1 pellet??? > > wrote: You cna go to HC cream right from Iocort, but I would swap out ONE dose > every 3-4 days starting wiht the AM dosing and working through the day. > Monitor your temps carefully, and use a 1 pellet of Isocort per 2.5mg HC > cream conversin. If your temps start averaging 99 or higher you need ot > stop thyroi dand you will know this is the dose of Hc that is working > for you as that is from thyroid rushing to the cells. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99 percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me wouldn't this hurt in long term? bw Nil Re: isocort to hc cream I use a very simple conversion of .1 ml = 1 mg HC. I just use all even numbers to make dosing easier, since my syringe is marked off in .2 ml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 You will only know if you try. I have MCS too and so far am doing better on the HC cream than on the pills. Cortef contains mineral oil and mineral oil is really bad for the gut. It isn't good for the skin but it is much worse taking it orally. Cheri Re: isocort to hc cream One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99 percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me wouldn't this hurt in long term? bw Nil . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 You will only know if you try. I have MCS too and so far am doing better on the HC cream than on the pills. Cortef contains mineral oil and mineral oil is really bad for the gut. It isn't good for the skin but it is much worse taking it orally. Cheri Re: isocort to hc cream One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99 percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me wouldn't this hurt in long term? bw Nil . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 i am not very knowledgable on this but i heard that dmso could be used as carrier oil. i am not sure if compounding pharmacies will prepare it or if it willbe suitable for hc? bw Nil RE: isocort to hc cream You will only know if you try. I have MCS too and so far am doing better on the HC cream than on the pills. Cortef contains mineral oil and mineral oil is really bad for the gut. It isn't good for the skin but it is much worse taking it orally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 harley1401 wrote: > Hello All, > Can someone please describe for me the proper way to swith from > Isocort to HC cream? I remember reading about a process and dosing > schedule but I cant seem to find it. You would switch out one dose at a time. Switch one, then in about a week switch a second, and so on. > Also It appears that most people > here do better on the cream than on the pills and was wondering if you > could jump from isocort to the cream without ever trying the > prescription HC pill form?? I don't think by any means 'most' here do better with cream. Some minority of us do, of which I'm one. If you have known stomach issues, lots of stomach pain and irritation, known history of ulcers, or reflux, then it would be worth considering switching right to the 1% HC cream. But if you have no stomach issues, and can be reliable about taking an HC pill dose with some food, then do try pills first. Most of the stomach complaints I have read with the pills relate to people not taking HC with food, or not taking it with food with enough fat/protein in it. But some people do experience stomach irritation even taking it with food. If dosing HC cream will be convenient is another issue. It is easier and more unobtrusive to take a pill in public than to apply cream, LOL. LOL, sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 harley1401 wrote: > Hello All, > Can someone please describe for me the proper way to swith from > Isocort to HC cream? I remember reading about a process and dosing > schedule but I cant seem to find it. You would switch out one dose at a time. Switch one, then in about a week switch a second, and so on. > Also It appears that most people > here do better on the cream than on the pills and was wondering if you > could jump from isocort to the cream without ever trying the > prescription HC pill form?? I don't think by any means 'most' here do better with cream. Some minority of us do, of which I'm one. If you have known stomach issues, lots of stomach pain and irritation, known history of ulcers, or reflux, then it would be worth considering switching right to the 1% HC cream. But if you have no stomach issues, and can be reliable about taking an HC pill dose with some food, then do try pills first. Most of the stomach complaints I have read with the pills relate to people not taking HC with food, or not taking it with food with enough fat/protein in it. But some people do experience stomach irritation even taking it with food. If dosing HC cream will be convenient is another issue. It is easier and more unobtrusive to take a pill in public than to apply cream, LOL. LOL, sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 >>One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99 percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me wouldn't this hurt in long term?<< All the more reason to watch inert ingredients carefully. " Inert " is a word I hate.. Nothing its inert! LOL -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 >>One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99 percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me wouldn't this hurt in long term?<< All the more reason to watch inert ingredients carefully. " Inert " is a word I hate.. Nothing its inert! LOL -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 >>One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99 percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me wouldn't this hurt in long term?<< All the more reason to watch inert ingredients carefully. " Inert " is a word I hate.. Nothing its inert! LOL -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Yes, but everything is a trade off, isn't it? I have never found one single food, supplement, or med that is 100% either good or bad or is totally without any trade off. For me the trade off results in cream being the clear winner as the lesser 'evil'. Stomach pain and perhaps another ulcer is not an option I'm willing to risk. Think about benefits vs. risk of each and see how it shakes out for YOU. sol Nil wrote: > One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99 percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me wouldn't this hurt in long term? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Yes, but everything is a trade off, isn't it? I have never found one single food, supplement, or med that is 100% either good or bad or is totally without any trade off. For me the trade off results in cream being the clear winner as the lesser 'evil'. Stomach pain and perhaps another ulcer is not an option I'm willing to risk. Think about benefits vs. risk of each and see how it shakes out for YOU. sol Nil wrote: > One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99 percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me wouldn't this hurt in long term? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Yes, but everything is a trade off, isn't it? I have never found one single food, supplement, or med that is 100% either good or bad or is totally without any trade off. For me the trade off results in cream being the clear winner as the lesser 'evil'. Stomach pain and perhaps another ulcer is not an option I'm willing to risk. Think about benefits vs. risk of each and see how it shakes out for YOU. sol Nil wrote: > One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99 percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me wouldn't this hurt in long term? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 The 1% has to do with the amount of cortisone, like the strength of a prescription. Just check the other ingredients and pick accordingly. Linn > > Nil wrote: > > One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99 percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me wouldn't this hurt in long term? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 The 1% has to do with the amount of cortisone, like the strength of a prescription. Just check the other ingredients and pick accordingly. Linn > > Nil wrote: > > One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99 percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me wouldn't this hurt in long term? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 It isn't a carrier oil per se. It is a solvent, and will transport substances into tissues. I know of people who have made their own topical vitamin delivery system by mixing dissolved or liquid vitamins or vitamin powder into diluted DMSO. I doubt if a pharmacy would touch it, as it isnt' approved for human use except for interstitial cystitis, and it is also used or used to be used to preserve some kinds of tissue for transplants into humans. It is very interesting stuff, and I've used it for years. www.jacoblab.com and Appleton " MSM the Definitive Guide " and Morton " DMSO " . There is also a yahoo email group devoted to DMSO http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/ If you are interested in using DMSO I suggest reading the books, Dr. s website, and for practical advice on how to make topicals with it join the DMSO group. sol Nil wrote: > i am not very knowledgable on this but i heard that dmso could be used as carrier oil. i am not sure if compounding pharmacies will prepare it or if it willbe suitable for hc? > bw > Nil > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 It isn't a carrier oil per se. It is a solvent, and will transport substances into tissues. I know of people who have made their own topical vitamin delivery system by mixing dissolved or liquid vitamins or vitamin powder into diluted DMSO. I doubt if a pharmacy would touch it, as it isnt' approved for human use except for interstitial cystitis, and it is also used or used to be used to preserve some kinds of tissue for transplants into humans. It is very interesting stuff, and I've used it for years. www.jacoblab.com and Appleton " MSM the Definitive Guide " and Morton " DMSO " . There is also a yahoo email group devoted to DMSO http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/ If you are interested in using DMSO I suggest reading the books, Dr. s website, and for practical advice on how to make topicals with it join the DMSO group. sol Nil wrote: > i am not very knowledgable on this but i heard that dmso could be used as carrier oil. i am not sure if compounding pharmacies will prepare it or if it willbe suitable for hc? > bw > Nil > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 wrote: > > All the more reason to watch inert ingredients carefully. " Inert " is a word I hate.. Nothing its inert! LOL > I was horrified after ordering Thyroid S to then go and read the complete ingredients list. WHAT a bunch of junk in it. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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