Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 wrote: > > All the more reason to watch inert ingredients carefully. " Inert " is a word I hate.. Nothing its inert! LOL > I was horrified after ordering Thyroid S to then go and read the complete ingredients list. WHAT a bunch of junk in it. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 wrote: > > All the more reason to watch inert ingredients carefully. " Inert " is a word I hate.. Nothing its inert! LOL > I was horrified after ordering Thyroid S to then go and read the complete ingredients list. WHAT a bunch of junk in it. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I prefer the pills myself. I have plenty of digestive issues, but the HC pills don't seem to bother me at all. Go figure. I certainly have enough other things I can't take or eat. Actually, the pills seem to work better for me. I'm still going to have to supplement with the cream for awhile since I'm now taking about 12.5mg more per day than the doctor prescribed. The bitter tasted didn't bother me after the first day. Not chocolate, but it isn't hideous to me by any means. When I've had to take prednisone in teh past, it was the same thing. I think it falls into my body telling me what it needs. It needs teh cortisol, so the medicine doesn't taste horrible to me. That's my theory anyway. :-) Cherie Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn.--C.S. > harley1401 wrote: > > Hello All, > > Can someone please describe for me the proper way to swith from > > Isocort to HC cream? I remember reading about a process and dosing > > schedule but I cant seem to find it. > You would switch out one dose at a time. Switch one, then in about a > week switch a second, and so on. > > > Also It appears that most people > > here do better on the cream than on the pills and was wondering if you > > could jump from isocort to the cream without ever trying the > > prescription HC pill form?? > I don't think by any means 'most' here do better with cream. Some > minority of us do, of which I'm one. > If you have known stomach issues, lots of stomach pain and irritation, > known history of ulcers, or reflux, then it would be worth considering > switching right to the 1% HC cream. > But if you have no stomach issues, and can be reliable about taking an > HC pill dose with some food, then do try pills first. Most of the > stomach complaints I have read with the pills relate to people not > taking HC with food, or not taking it with food with enough fat/protein > in it. But some people do experience stomach irritation even taking it > with food. > If dosing HC cream will be convenient is another issue. It is easier and > more unobtrusive to take a pill in public than to apply cream, LOL. > LOL, > sol > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I prefer the pills myself. I have plenty of digestive issues, but the HC pills don't seem to bother me at all. Go figure. I certainly have enough other things I can't take or eat. Actually, the pills seem to work better for me. I'm still going to have to supplement with the cream for awhile since I'm now taking about 12.5mg more per day than the doctor prescribed. The bitter tasted didn't bother me after the first day. Not chocolate, but it isn't hideous to me by any means. When I've had to take prednisone in teh past, it was the same thing. I think it falls into my body telling me what it needs. It needs teh cortisol, so the medicine doesn't taste horrible to me. That's my theory anyway. :-) Cherie Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn.--C.S. > harley1401 wrote: > > Hello All, > > Can someone please describe for me the proper way to swith from > > Isocort to HC cream? I remember reading about a process and dosing > > schedule but I cant seem to find it. > You would switch out one dose at a time. Switch one, then in about a > week switch a second, and so on. > > > Also It appears that most people > > here do better on the cream than on the pills and was wondering if you > > could jump from isocort to the cream without ever trying the > > prescription HC pill form?? > I don't think by any means 'most' here do better with cream. Some > minority of us do, of which I'm one. > If you have known stomach issues, lots of stomach pain and irritation, > known history of ulcers, or reflux, then it would be worth considering > switching right to the 1% HC cream. > But if you have no stomach issues, and can be reliable about taking an > HC pill dose with some food, then do try pills first. Most of the > stomach complaints I have read with the pills relate to people not > taking HC with food, or not taking it with food with enough fat/protein > in it. But some people do experience stomach irritation even taking it > with food. > If dosing HC cream will be convenient is another issue. It is easier and > more unobtrusive to take a pill in public than to apply cream, LOL. > LOL, > sol > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 thanks sol best wishes. Nil Re: isocort to hc cream It isn't a carrier oil per se. It is a solvent, and will transport substances into tissues. I know of people who have made their own topical vitamin delivery system by mixing dissolved or liquid vitamins or vitamin powder into diluted DMSO. I doubt if a pharmacy would touch it, as it isnt' approved for human use except for interstitial cystitis, and it is also used or used to be used to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 thanks sol best wishes. Nil Re: isocort to hc cream It isn't a carrier oil per se. It is a solvent, and will transport substances into tissues. I know of people who have made their own topical vitamin delivery system by mixing dissolved or liquid vitamins or vitamin powder into diluted DMSO. I doubt if a pharmacy would touch it, as it isnt' approved for human use except for interstitial cystitis, and it is also used or used to be used to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 thanks sol best wishes. Nil Re: isocort to hc cream It isn't a carrier oil per se. It is a solvent, and will transport substances into tissues. I know of people who have made their own topical vitamin delivery system by mixing dissolved or liquid vitamins or vitamin powder into diluted DMSO. I doubt if a pharmacy would touch it, as it isnt' approved for human use except for interstitial cystitis, and it is also used or used to be used to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 thankyou for the info... to be honest i was really thinking of going with the cream because of how hard a time i am having getting the pills...i can get them from a soarce but am only allowed to buy so many in so much time so i am scared that if i start and raise and find a sweet spot then i cant get more i am up the creek??? you know what I mean???without a cooperative doc this really stinks. anyways that why i was debating the cream Cherie wrote: I prefer the pills myself. I have plenty of digestive issues, but the HC pills don't seem to bother me at all. Go figure. I certainly have enough other things I can't take or eat. Actually, the pills seem to work better for me. I'm still going to have to supplement with the cream for awhile since I'm now taking about 12.5mg more per day than the doctor prescribed. The bitter tasted didn't bother me after the first day. Not chocolate, but it isn't hideous to me by any means. When I've had to take prednisone in teh past, it was the same thing. I think it falls into my body telling me what it needs. It needs teh cortisol, so the medicine doesn't taste horrible to me. That's my theory anyway. :-) Cherie Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn.--C.S. > harley1401 wrote: > > Hello All, > > Can someone please describe for me the proper way to swith from > > Isocort to HC cream? I remember reading about a process and dosing > > schedule but I cant seem to find it. > You would switch out one dose at a time. Switch one, then in about a > week switch a second, and so on. > > > Also It appears that most people > > here do better on the cream than on the pills and was wondering if you > > could jump from isocort to the cream without ever trying the > > prescription HC pill form?? > I don't think by any means 'most' here do better with cream. Some > minority of us do, of which I'm one. > If you have known stomach issues, lots of stomach pain and irritation, > known history of ulcers, or reflux, then it would be worth considering > switching right to the 1% HC cream. > But if you have no stomach issues, and can be reliable about taking an > HC pill dose with some food, then do try pills first. Most of the > stomach complaints I have read with the pills relate to people not > taking HC with food, or not taking it with food with enough fat/protein > in it. But some people do experience stomach irritation even taking it > with food. > If dosing HC cream will be convenient is another issue. It is easier and > more unobtrusive to take a pill in public than to apply cream, LOL. > LOL, > sol > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 thankyou for the info... to be honest i was really thinking of going with the cream because of how hard a time i am having getting the pills...i can get them from a soarce but am only allowed to buy so many in so much time so i am scared that if i start and raise and find a sweet spot then i cant get more i am up the creek??? you know what I mean???without a cooperative doc this really stinks. anyways that why i was debating the cream Cherie wrote: I prefer the pills myself. I have plenty of digestive issues, but the HC pills don't seem to bother me at all. Go figure. I certainly have enough other things I can't take or eat. Actually, the pills seem to work better for me. I'm still going to have to supplement with the cream for awhile since I'm now taking about 12.5mg more per day than the doctor prescribed. The bitter tasted didn't bother me after the first day. Not chocolate, but it isn't hideous to me by any means. When I've had to take prednisone in teh past, it was the same thing. I think it falls into my body telling me what it needs. It needs teh cortisol, so the medicine doesn't taste horrible to me. That's my theory anyway. :-) Cherie Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn.--C.S. > harley1401 wrote: > > Hello All, > > Can someone please describe for me the proper way to swith from > > Isocort to HC cream? I remember reading about a process and dosing > > schedule but I cant seem to find it. > You would switch out one dose at a time. Switch one, then in about a > week switch a second, and so on. > > > Also It appears that most people > > here do better on the cream than on the pills and was wondering if you > > could jump from isocort to the cream without ever trying the > > prescription HC pill form?? > I don't think by any means 'most' here do better with cream. Some > minority of us do, of which I'm one. > If you have known stomach issues, lots of stomach pain and irritation, > known history of ulcers, or reflux, then it would be worth considering > switching right to the 1% HC cream. > But if you have no stomach issues, and can be reliable about taking an > HC pill dose with some food, then do try pills first. Most of the > stomach complaints I have read with the pills relate to people not > taking HC with food, or not taking it with food with enough fat/protein > in it. But some people do experience stomach irritation even taking it > with food. > If dosing HC cream will be convenient is another issue. It is easier and > more unobtrusive to take a pill in public than to apply cream, LOL. > LOL, > sol > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 I have had no trouble obtaining a pretty good stockpile of HC from one of the sources that we have and I have ordered from them twice now. -- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , Fred wrote: > > thankyou for the info... to be honest i was really thinking of going with the cream because of how hard a time i am having getting the pills...i can get them from a soarce but am only allowed to buy so many in so much time so i am scared that if i start and raise and find a sweet spot then i cant get more i am up the creek??? you know what I mean???without a cooperative doc this really stinks. anyways that why i was debating the cream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 I have had no trouble obtaining a pretty good stockpile of HC from one of the sources that we have and I have ordered from them twice now. -- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , Fred wrote: > > thankyou for the info... to be honest i was really thinking of going with the cream because of how hard a time i am having getting the pills...i can get them from a soarce but am only allowed to buy so many in so much time so i am scared that if i start and raise and find a sweet spot then i cant get more i am up the creek??? you know what I mean???without a cooperative doc this really stinks. anyways that why i was debating the cream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 , are you on all cream now? Since I switched over to all cream I need less. I am down to 30 mg the past couple of days. It seems to be getting in the cells better, especially if I use it close to the veins like the insides of the elbows and behind the knees. It is working much better than the Isocort. Did you know that the hydrocortisone pills contain mineral oil? That is why I decided against them for now. Cheri Re: isocort to hc cream I have had no trouble obtaining a pretty good stockpile of HC from one of the sources that we have and I have ordered from them twice now. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Hi Cheri, I am almost on all cream HC also. Checking my box of tablets of HC, it states each tablet contains 10 mg of HC and Lactose Monohydrate EP, no mineral oil. Maybe the mineral oil content depends on the brand of HC. Pamela MsSquarepants wrote: , are you on all cream now? Since I switched over to all cream I need less. I am down to 30 mg the past couple of days. It seems to be getting in the cells better, especially if I use it close to the veins like the insides of the elbows and behind the knees. It is working much better than the Isocort. Did you know that the hydrocortisone pills contain mineral oil? That is why I decided against them for now. Cheri --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Maybe. I was looking at the website for Cortef. What brand to you have? Cheri -----Original Message----- Hi Cheri, I am almost on all cream HC also. Checking my box of tablets of HC, it states each tablet contains 10 mg of HC and Lactose Monohydrate EP, no mineral oil. Maybe the mineral oil content depends on the brand of HC. Pamela . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Well, there is no reason you can't use both if you want. I am because the dose the doctor prescribed for me is lower than what I'm actually taking. In fact, I'm going to have to use mostly cream for the next couple of days because my pharmacy didn't have enough to fill my entire script. I thought they said the rest would be in this past Friday and they meant this coming Friday. So now I only have a few of the pills left. The cream works too though, so I'm not worried. I just prefer the pills. In fact I would think it could be helpful to be able to use both. If you have pills youcan take with you if you are away from the house or if it is inconvient to use the cream. Just my thoughts anyway. :-) Keep looking for a good doc! Cherie Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn.--C.S. > thankyou for the info... to be honest i was really thinking of > going with the cream because of how hard a time i am having > getting the pills...i can get them from a soarce but am only > allowed to buy so many in so much time so i am scared that if i > start and raise and find a sweet spot then i cant get more i am > up the creek??? you know what I mean???without a cooperative doc > this really stinks. anyways that why i was debating the cream > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1235 - Release Date: 1/21/2008 9:39 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 That's good to know. They are probably a better brand...less toxic reaction. I was shocked to read that about Cortef. Mineral oil should NEVER be in any food product and to think people used to drink it as a laxative. Cheri RE: isocort to hc cream Merck Sharp & Dohme Pamela MsSquarepants wrote: Maybe. I was looking at the website for Cortef. What brand to you have? Cheri -----Original Message----- . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 No, just using it for my bed-time dose. The two times that I've had thyroid dumps I was using cream which probably supports the proposition that the cream absorbs better, but the variability of using cream, where to put it, how well or how fast it will absorb from wherever you put it, etc., makes me nervous about subbing it out completely for the pills. Also, taking it five times/day, with two or three of those doses occurring when I am at work makes it tough for me to get away to smear it on myself. I didn't know that the pills contain mineral oil but I know that the contain lactose which isn't ideal for me either. Until we found the Corticool gel, the cream I was using had mineral oil in it too. Is the oil bad in the GI, or just bad in general? > > , are you on all cream now? Since I switched over to all cream I need > less. I am down to 30 mg the past couple of days. It seems to be getting in > the cells better, especially if I use it close to the veins like the insides > of the elbows and behind the knees. It is working much better than the > Isocort. > > Did you know that the hydrocortisone pills contain mineral oil? That is why > I decided against them for now. > > Cheri > -----Original Message----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Oh yeah, I have never gotten the actual brand Cortef, it's always generic HC, even when filled via prescription as opposed to from off of the source list. > > Maybe. I was looking at the website for Cortef. What brand to you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 It is bad in general but worse in the GI. The cream is much better on my GI. I have been using my Cortaid which didn't seem to work right away but does seem to be working well now (I don't think I gave it enough time). It has some bad things in it but it is much better on my GI than Isocort was. I didn't even realize I was having issues with Isocort and my GI until I completed my switch. Plus it absorbs better. At work, putting it on your inner elbows of each arm works pretty well. Especially if you have a brand that absorbs well which my Cortaid seems too. My cheaper brand is much greasier and takes forever to absorb in comparison. Cheri -----Original Message----- Is the oil bad in the GI, or just bad in general? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Then you are probably okay. I should have specified Cortef in my original post. However, HC in general is hard on the GII. Cheri -----Original Message----- Oh yeah, I have never gotten the actual brand Cortef, it's always generic HC, even when filled via prescription as opposed to from off of the source list. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Did you ever weigh in on the inactive ingredients in the Corticool gel that we found? It rubs in very easy and with no grease at all. Inactive ingredients are: hypromellose, menthol, polyoxyl 35 castor oil, propylene glycol, purified water, SD alcohol 40-B. I'm increasing Armour tnite so I'm going to do as I did last time and " stress-dose " by using the gel for my first dose in the AM and the bed-time dose. I should probably just get it over with and swap out all doses for good and see if it helps the GI but I thought that I was getting the GI under control. It's clearly not though as per earlier discussion. > > It is bad in general but worse in the GI. The cream is much better on my GI. > I have been using my Cortaid which didn't seem to work right away but does > seem to be working well now (I don't think I gave it enough time). It has > some bad things in it but it is much better on my GI than Isocort was. I > didn't even realize I was having issues with Isocort and my GI until I > completed my switch. Plus it absorbs better. > > At work, putting it on your inner elbows of each arm works pretty well. > Especially if you have a brand that absorbs well which my Cortaid seems too. > My cheaper brand is much greasier and takes forever to absorb in comparison. > > Cheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Did you ever weigh in on the inactive ingredients in the Corticool gel that we found? It rubs in very easy and with no grease at all. Inactive ingredients are: hypromellose, menthol, polyoxyl 35 castor oil, propylene glycol, purified water, SD alcohol 40-B. I'm increasing Armour tnite so I'm going to do as I did last time and " stress-dose " by using the gel for my first dose in the AM and the bed-time dose. I should probably just get it over with and swap out all doses for good and see if it helps the GI but I thought that I was getting the GI under control. It's clearly not though as per earlier discussion. > > It is bad in general but worse in the GI. The cream is much better on my GI. > I have been using my Cortaid which didn't seem to work right away but does > seem to be working well now (I don't think I gave it enough time). It has > some bad things in it but it is much better on my GI than Isocort was. I > didn't even realize I was having issues with Isocort and my GI until I > completed my switch. Plus it absorbs better. > > At work, putting it on your inner elbows of each arm works pretty well. > Especially if you have a brand that absorbs well which my Cortaid seems too. > My cheaper brand is much greasier and takes forever to absorb in comparison. > > Cheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Did you ever weigh in on the inactive ingredients in the Corticool gel that we found? It rubs in very easy and with no grease at all. Inactive ingredients are: hypromellose, menthol, polyoxyl 35 castor oil, propylene glycol, purified water, SD alcohol 40-B. I'm increasing Armour tnite so I'm going to do as I did last time and " stress-dose " by using the gel for my first dose in the AM and the bed-time dose. I should probably just get it over with and swap out all doses for good and see if it helps the GI but I thought that I was getting the GI under control. It's clearly not though as per earlier discussion. > > It is bad in general but worse in the GI. The cream is much better on my GI. > I have been using my Cortaid which didn't seem to work right away but does > seem to be working well now (I don't think I gave it enough time). It has > some bad things in it but it is much better on my GI than Isocort was. I > didn't even realize I was having issues with Isocort and my GI until I > completed my switch. Plus it absorbs better. > > At work, putting it on your inner elbows of each arm works pretty well. > Especially if you have a brand that absorbs well which my Cortaid seems too. > My cheaper brand is much greasier and takes forever to absorb in comparison. > > Cheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Mineral oil is very bad. We should all me mindful about mineral oil in oral meds and creams/ointments. Mineral oil prevents the absorption of calcium, vitamin A, D, E and K. Pamela jasrich wrote: No, just using it for my bed-time dose. The two times that I've had thyroid dumps I was using cream which probably supports the proposition that the cream absorbs better, but the variability of using cream, where to put it, how well or how fast it will absorb from wherever you put it, etc., makes me nervous about subbing it out completely for the pills. Also, taking it five times/day, with two or three of those doses occurring when I am at work makes it tough for me to get away to smear it on myself. I didn't know that the pills contain mineral oil but I know that the contain lactose which isn't ideal for me either. Until we found the Corticool gel, the cream I was using had mineral oil in it too. Is the oil bad in the GI, or just bad in general? --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Well, it looks a lot better than what I currently use. Mine has one paraben in it. Cheri -----Original Message----- Did you ever weigh in on the inactive ingredients in the Corticool gel that we found? It rubs in very easy and with no grease at all. Inactive ingredients are: hypromellose, menthol, polyoxyl 35 castor oil, propylene glycol, purified water, SD alcohol 40-B. I'm increasing Armour tnite so I'm going to do as I did last time and " stress-dose " by using the gel for my first dose in the AM and the bed-time dose. I should probably just get it over with and swap out all doses for good and see if it helps the GI but I thought that I was getting the GI under control. It's clearly not though as per earlier discussion. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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