Re: Shrinks was Seconday Adrenal Insufficiency?

[Guest guest]

I thought you might find this of interest ...

Prior to my current (new) endo, I went to a prestigious endo

practice in Philadelphia. It was another useless appointment. I will

say that my fear that disclosing I was on psych meds did have an

impact. His most focused question was, " do you think that your

depression has a lot to do with your fatigue " ? And thus, I was on

the defensive. I knew I could not win.

He also dispared the saliva tests, saying " we don't use these " Even

thoogh I saw some studies that show the use of saliva and also show

that they correlate with serum results.

Finally, he told me concerning my low sex hormones that " if you are

having a regualr period, there is nothing wrong with your endocrine

system " . ( I mentioned this in an earlier post today) I did not

bother to reply.

Ridiculous!

>

> From Cheri --I think MOST people on psych meds really have thyroid

and

> adrenal issues

> causing the mental issues.

>

> From FlowrGal -- " But my psychiatrist sees no relationship between

the hypo

> and my

> anxiety/depression "

>

> Y'all, it's actually my shrink who is addressing the thyroid.

She's had

> lots of folks need thyroid support, not psych meds. she's young

and comes

> out of a DO background which probably makes her more open.

>

> She did check into the Dr. Domitossi Dude here in Tucson, and

unfortunately,

> he writes well and brings good things to people's attention, but

not wise

> to see him. (sorry, no one will give me details)

>

> Most shrinks probably need shrinks. I keep telling my mother's

shrink NO

> to more meds (long story and not on topic for this list)

>

> I MAY have found a good one. She didn't totally freak when I told

her I

> have weaned myself off all psych meds. Changed my DX from bi-

polar to PTSD

> and made it a point to say that we need to check my adrenal

function before

> doing anything with thyroid.

>

> Next appt is on Feb 5. She may still let me down, but I'll keep

y'all

> posted in case there is a good psych doc here in Tucson. The endo

on TopDoc

> site is taking no more patients and his wait list for new patients

is full

> as well.

>

> Bottom line, PLEASE FIND THE $$$$ TO TEST yourselves before

trying to self

> treat. We know ourselves, and Val and the Mods here spend lots

of time

> helping. We don't want to make their jobs harder.

>

> It was a lot of money for me to come up with, the 141, plus I

> overnighted.... but am so thankful I did.

>

> kc in AZ

>

[Guest guest]

Flowr, you have been through the ringer.......... The shrinks need shrinks.

I'm very thankful for the good docs I have had.

I think you win the award for the mose wacko docs. And, I admit, when my

mom was on the right meds it was not bad, when she wasn't, well, lets

just say I have a great therapist.

kc in AZ

[Guest guest]

Flowr, you have been through the ringer.......... The shrinks need shrinks.

I'm very thankful for the good docs I have had.

I think you win the award for the mose wacko docs. And, I admit, when my

mom was on the right meds it was not bad, when she wasn't, well, lets

just say I have a great therapist.

kc in AZ

[Guest guest]

-- " But my psychiatrist sees no relationship between the hypo

and my

anxiety/depression "

Y'all, it's actually my shrink who is addressing the thyroid. She's had

lots of folks need thyroid support, not psych meds. she's young and

comes

out of a DO background which probably makes her more open>>>>>

For many many years...psychiatrists used thyroid hormones to treat

their patients. This is NOTHING new.

Michigan

[Guest guest]

Too bad more don't do it today. You are right, it IS nothing new yet many

push the other drugs and don't check thyroid. I had a good college friend

who learned this the hard way when one of her suicidal patients called 2

years later to rip her a new one for not suggesting the thyroid needed to be

checked.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

For many many years...psychiatrists used thyroid hormones to treat

their patients. This is NOTHING new.

Michigan

.

[Guest guest]

Too bad more don't do it today. You are right, it IS nothing new yet many

push the other drugs and don't check thyroid. I had a good college friend

who learned this the hard way when one of her suicidal patients called 2

years later to rip her a new one for not suggesting the thyroid needed to be

checked.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

For many many years...psychiatrists used thyroid hormones to treat

their patients. This is NOTHING new.

Michigan

.

[Guest guest]

My endo told me my hair loss and all my hypo symptoms were not from hypo but

because I was depressed. Yes, depression even causes pubic hair loss. First

class idiot. I told her I was depressed because my thyroid wasn't working,

not the other way around. All she wrote in her doctor's file was I was

depressed. Ironically, I wasn't even that depressed back then. Turns out she

is one of the worst endos in Tucson and rarely gets repeat business. I warn

everyone about her because she was terrible on so many levels. When you

request your lab results and such, also ask for copies of the doctors notes.

It is important to know what they are saying about you and can interfere

with care with the next docs.

The one who sent me to my neurologist apparently wrote in bad stuff in my

paperwork because the neurologist said that I wasn't crazy. Now, why would

he think that to begin with? So as we talked it was clear she told him that.

Well, he sided with me after examining me and doing some tests and wrote her

a letter to test all the things I asked her to test to begin with and she

refused. She was furious she sent me an angry letter.

This same doc got mad at me when she tried to treat me like a moron and I

said that cellular resistance and conversion problems could be my issue and

talked about the T4 to T3 conversion. She was taken aback and silent for a

bit, was surprised I knew that, then got mad and said " yes that could happen

but that is not the case with you " or something to that effect. How would

she know? She wouldn't even test free Ts and this was during my most hypo

period. My TSH was good and that is all she cared about. She wouldn't even

test for vitamin deficiencies and I was suffering from severe malnutrion and

dehydration at the time. I had already had several addisonian crises (which

I didn't know that is what they were at the time).

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

I thought you might find this of interest ...

Prior to my current (new) endo, I went to a prestigious endo

practice in Philadelphia. It was another useless appointment. I will

say that my fear that disclosing I was on psych meds did have an

impact. His most focused question was, " do you think that your

depression has a lot to do with your fatigue " ? And thus, I was on

the defensive. I knew I could not win.

Ridiculous!

.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the sympathy KC. It's comforting to know others think the

drs I have encountered are wackos! :-)

>

> Flowr, you have been through the ringer.......... The shrinks need

shrinks.

> I'm very thankful for the good docs I have had.

>

> I think you win the award for the mose wacko docs. And, I admit,

when my

> mom was on the right meds it was not bad, when she wasn't, well,

lets

> just say I have a great therapist.

>

> kc in AZ

>

[Guest guest]

I diagnosed myself and started treating but now my labs show the thyroid and

adrenal disease. Actually, my labs showed the adrenal disease back nearly a

decade ago but the idiots didn't know how to read them or were too lazy to

check.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

Cheri:

What a terrible story. Did you ever get a diagnosis? What ever

happened to the terrible endo?

He also told me that the reason I was having trouble tolerating the

thyroid medicaition is that I may not be hypo after all, since my

TSH used to diagnose me was not that high. He went on to say that if

he gave thyroid hormone to people (in the health general population)

they would have energy too and lose weight. I was just stunned.

What a wacko, quack.

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