Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 does anyone know of any docs in or around orlando or Philly that would look at these numbers and recognize a problem?///////////// I'm seeing an endo in Philly next Monday-I'll let you know how it goes... ____________________________ in *HHH* Jerseyopen proximal rny 9/18/015'9"-31yo297/168I'm not a doc-in real life or otherwise.***HHH=hot, hazy, & humid!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 does anyone know of any docs in or around orlando or Philly that would look at these numbers and recognize a problem?///////////// I'm seeing an endo in Philly next Monday-I'll let you know how it goes... ____________________________ in *HHH* Jerseyopen proximal rny 9/18/015'9"-31yo297/168I'm not a doc-in real life or otherwise.***HHH=hot, hazy, & humid!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 does anyone know of any docs in or around orlando or Philly that would look at these numbers and recognize a problem?///////////// I'm seeing an endo in Philly next Monday-I'll let you know how it goes... ____________________________ in *HHH* Jerseyopen proximal rny 9/18/015'9"-31yo297/168I'm not a doc-in real life or otherwise.***HHH=hot, hazy, & humid!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 With these numbers it's gonna be hard to find a doc that will do anything. For those 'in the know' the TSH range that the lab and doc are using is outdated. It was changed early in 2003 to .3 to 3.0. A TSH over 3.0 is considered hypo and a TSH above 2.0 is cause for further testing to determine what is wrong. Your Frees, and it's VERY good that they were tested, are showing that your Free T4 is a bit lower than what 'most people' feel well at which is about mid range, or slightly over. For the range for the test that your lab ran, mid range would be 1.3. With the Free T3, 'most folks' feel best with a Free T3 that is at the top of it's range, or slightly over. Your's is far to near the bottom of it's range... and you feel crappy.. that fits. Considering your eating plan there are some questions for you.... Severe calorie restriction and skipping meals (not saying that you are doing either, just starting the ball rolling on how eating habits can affect the thyroid gland....) can cause the body to reduce the metabolic rate and thyroid gland production. So it might be a good start to run through your eating to see what, if any, affect it might have... if only to rule that out and allow you to look further and be more assertive/aggressive/insistent with your doc(s). Since the low carb diet allowed you to lose weight at first, and does not now... I'm suspecting a lowered metabolic rate... Did that happen from your eating plan or did it exist before, causing the weight gain that caused you to change your eating style.... ? It's the classic chicken or the egg scenario. Do you have any family history of thyroid problems, either hyper or hypo? What is your ideal/healthy weight (goal)? (not your current weight) About how many calories to you consume a day? Do you tend to eat about the same number of calories per day or does it vary? What is your activity level, couch potato or marathon trainee? Do you take supplements, vitamins, minerals, herbs? What vegies do you eat? How many times do you eat a day? How soon after waking do you have breakfast? Low carbing doesn't skew lab results... but too low a caloric intake over too long a period of time can affect metabolic rate, conversion rate and gland production.... that's why it might be a good idea to look at that angle too.... again.. even if only to rule it out. It's very possible to be 'not quite hypo yet' for a long while before it becomes really noticeable... and the numbers are off enough to cause a doc to stand up and take notice... so if that is where you're at, the more that you learn, the better you understand.. the better you will be able to keep an eye on things and make sure that it's caught before you body ends up having some recovery time from being too hypo for too long. When you first started low carbing... what percentage of your body weight were you hoping to lose? (here I'm looking to see if there may have been a thyroid issue back then.. then this isn't something that has developed since... There are all kinds of things to sift through to be able to build a clear picture.. and with the numbers that you have and their being 'in normal range' yet not really at levels that would make 'most folks' feel well. The sharper the picture is the easier it will be to figure out what is going on and what you might be able to do to feel better. Could you do a simple test for me sometime?? After you've been sitting quietly for about 20 minutes.... check your pulse rate.. what is it? Topper () On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:03:41 -0000 " GREEKEVE " writes: > Hi everyone, I am new here and I guess I need some advice. > I haven't been feeling right for about two yrs and after a bit of > research....it seems I have a lot of the classic hypothyroid > symptoms. I went to healthcheckusa and got some thyroid tests > done. My results are: > FT4 1.1______0.8-1.8 range > FT3 2.6______2.3-4.2 range > TSH 2.295____0.35-5.50 range > > so i know everything looks " normal " but i have heard that these > numbers could still indicate a low functioning thyroid. if so, does > anyone know of any docs in or around orlando or Philly that would > look at these numbers and recognize a problem? > also, i have been doing atkins to lose weight for 3 years, on and > off (mostly ON though). it worked in the beginning (when i felt > fine, had energy, and no hypo symptoms), and i lost about 50 > pounds. But the past 2 years it hasnt been working (which was > another red flag for me b/c i KNOW it should work). anyway do you > think low carbing would have affected the blood tests? > > thank you so much for any advice you could offer, > -Eve- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 I didn't see the original post, but I go to an endo in Cherry Hill, NJ, Dr Jennings, Covered Bridge Rd. He is open to using Armour Thyroid also. Chrissie Re: Could I be hypo?? does anyone know of any docs in or around orlando or Philly that would look at these numbers and recognize a problem?///////////// I'm seeing an endo in Philly next Monday-I'll let you know how it goes... ____________________________ in *HHH* Jerseyopen proximal rny 9/18/015'9"-31yo297/168I'm not a doc-in real life or otherwise.***HHH=hot, hazy, & humid!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 I didn't see the original post, but I go to an endo in Cherry Hill, NJ, Dr Jennings, Covered Bridge Rd. He is open to using Armour Thyroid also. Chrissie Re: Could I be hypo?? does anyone know of any docs in or around orlando or Philly that would look at these numbers and recognize a problem?///////////// I'm seeing an endo in Philly next Monday-I'll let you know how it goes... ____________________________ in *HHH* Jerseyopen proximal rny 9/18/015'9"-31yo297/168I'm not a doc-in real life or otherwise.***HHH=hot, hazy, & humid!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 I didn't see the original post, but I go to an endo in Cherry Hill, NJ, Dr Jennings, Covered Bridge Rd. He is open to using Armour Thyroid also. Chrissie Re: Could I be hypo?? does anyone know of any docs in or around orlando or Philly that would look at these numbers and recognize a problem?///////////// I'm seeing an endo in Philly next Monday-I'll let you know how it goes... ____________________________ in *HHH* Jerseyopen proximal rny 9/18/015'9"-31yo297/168I'm not a doc-in real life or otherwise.***HHH=hot, hazy, & humid!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 It's such a hard thing to learn, Spiff... I think for a great many of us... For folks that have wonderful healthy bodies with immune systems and hormone systems that can shift and adjust to meet the demands of a day it isn't such a big deal.. but for those of us that are now doing a lot of the regulation and balance that our bodies used to do automatically... well... I think it's an important thing to learn what we can do to help our bodies work the best that they can... I've said this ssoooo many times over the years... but as much of a hassle it is to do some of the stuff that I do to feel well... it's really such a small effort to feel so much better. I was an extreme, granted... but I went for several years needing crutches to walk... and gobbling pain pills done at the rate of 20 to 30 pills at a shot.. I bought them by the 1,000s.. I kid you not.... So, when I feel frustrated about multi-dosing... or avoiding the 'bad foods'.... and eating mini meals every three hours.... what makes more sense? Pop my hormones every few hours... eat a meal every few hours... and have a LIFE..... or just skip all of that and have to go through every second of every minute of every day in pain.... and popping so many pain pills.. well... I still can't believe I never OD'd on the stuff or fried my liver! And even though I ate once, sometimes twice a day..... to never be able to lose weight.... sigh.... I'll watch the clock.... hehehehehe Now... need to throw in a silly.. I've been too serious today.... Mini meals and eating away from home..... I got parked at the local library for a day and there was no place within a decent walking distance to go get any food... and it would have been BAD fast food anyway... so I had to go equipped to stay safely fed for my ten hours of research and study... how'd I do it? heheheheh I made a BUNCH of my turkey burger meat balls and froze them..And packed them away in my laptop case... I would pull a few aside, inside the bag to defrost... and very slyly stuck one in my mouth every so often.... No one caught me... I didn't make a mess in the areas that I was working! I also had juice and water... It was actually a pretty good day! Now... just imagine... I'm a person that tends to stand out in a crowd.. lugging in this huge laptop case with my junk in it (laptop, note books, headphones... some CDs of animal sounds for white noise), I offered it up at the desk so that they could check it coming in... and again when I left.. no one inspected it though.... I just wonder what they thought of me spending the day there.. sipping out of mountain dew bottles... and getting up every few hours to use the bathroom... and taking that opportunity to move to a different area of the library (I'm a paranoid.. I packed everything up and took it in the bathroom with me so no one would steal my stuff!) The few times that I've been back since they has them grinning big from ear to ear and looking for the laptop case!!! hehehe oh gosh.. now it's the neighbors watching me with puters out on the deck... On really nice days I set up a table and bring out the big machine and a monitor.. not just a laptop.. and make a whole day of it!! hehehehhe Topper () aka ThyroGeek! On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:20:41 -0700 (PDT) DerSpiff writes: I need to get this email printed out and stuck on my fridge and highlight the part about skipping meals. I really see now, now that I'm looking, how bad of a habit that is. I went and applied back at the paper I worked for, and now I'm glad that I didn't get it, because that's the place where I developed all those habits, and I'm about sure that I'd fall right back into them again. Go Go Go, get it done and eat when you get home. It was that way for almost 15 years. Hard habit to break! Spiff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 It's such a hard thing to learn, Spiff... I think for a great many of us... For folks that have wonderful healthy bodies with immune systems and hormone systems that can shift and adjust to meet the demands of a day it isn't such a big deal.. but for those of us that are now doing a lot of the regulation and balance that our bodies used to do automatically... well... I think it's an important thing to learn what we can do to help our bodies work the best that they can... I've said this ssoooo many times over the years... but as much of a hassle it is to do some of the stuff that I do to feel well... it's really such a small effort to feel so much better. I was an extreme, granted... but I went for several years needing crutches to walk... and gobbling pain pills done at the rate of 20 to 30 pills at a shot.. I bought them by the 1,000s.. I kid you not.... So, when I feel frustrated about multi-dosing... or avoiding the 'bad foods'.... and eating mini meals every three hours.... what makes more sense? Pop my hormones every few hours... eat a meal every few hours... and have a LIFE..... or just skip all of that and have to go through every second of every minute of every day in pain.... and popping so many pain pills.. well... I still can't believe I never OD'd on the stuff or fried my liver! And even though I ate once, sometimes twice a day..... to never be able to lose weight.... sigh.... I'll watch the clock.... hehehehehe Now... need to throw in a silly.. I've been too serious today.... Mini meals and eating away from home..... I got parked at the local library for a day and there was no place within a decent walking distance to go get any food... and it would have been BAD fast food anyway... so I had to go equipped to stay safely fed for my ten hours of research and study... how'd I do it? heheheheh I made a BUNCH of my turkey burger meat balls and froze them..And packed them away in my laptop case... I would pull a few aside, inside the bag to defrost... and very slyly stuck one in my mouth every so often.... No one caught me... I didn't make a mess in the areas that I was working! I also had juice and water... It was actually a pretty good day! Now... just imagine... I'm a person that tends to stand out in a crowd.. lugging in this huge laptop case with my junk in it (laptop, note books, headphones... some CDs of animal sounds for white noise), I offered it up at the desk so that they could check it coming in... and again when I left.. no one inspected it though.... I just wonder what they thought of me spending the day there.. sipping out of mountain dew bottles... and getting up every few hours to use the bathroom... and taking that opportunity to move to a different area of the library (I'm a paranoid.. I packed everything up and took it in the bathroom with me so no one would steal my stuff!) The few times that I've been back since they has them grinning big from ear to ear and looking for the laptop case!!! hehehe oh gosh.. now it's the neighbors watching me with puters out on the deck... On really nice days I set up a table and bring out the big machine and a monitor.. not just a laptop.. and make a whole day of it!! hehehehhe Topper () aka ThyroGeek! On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:20:41 -0700 (PDT) DerSpiff writes: I need to get this email printed out and stuck on my fridge and highlight the part about skipping meals. I really see now, now that I'm looking, how bad of a habit that is. I went and applied back at the paper I worked for, and now I'm glad that I didn't get it, because that's the place where I developed all those habits, and I'm about sure that I'd fall right back into them again. Go Go Go, get it done and eat when you get home. It was that way for almost 15 years. Hard habit to break! Spiff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 It's such a hard thing to learn, Spiff... I think for a great many of us... For folks that have wonderful healthy bodies with immune systems and hormone systems that can shift and adjust to meet the demands of a day it isn't such a big deal.. but for those of us that are now doing a lot of the regulation and balance that our bodies used to do automatically... well... I think it's an important thing to learn what we can do to help our bodies work the best that they can... I've said this ssoooo many times over the years... but as much of a hassle it is to do some of the stuff that I do to feel well... it's really such a small effort to feel so much better. I was an extreme, granted... but I went for several years needing crutches to walk... and gobbling pain pills done at the rate of 20 to 30 pills at a shot.. I bought them by the 1,000s.. I kid you not.... So, when I feel frustrated about multi-dosing... or avoiding the 'bad foods'.... and eating mini meals every three hours.... what makes more sense? Pop my hormones every few hours... eat a meal every few hours... and have a LIFE..... or just skip all of that and have to go through every second of every minute of every day in pain.... and popping so many pain pills.. well... I still can't believe I never OD'd on the stuff or fried my liver! And even though I ate once, sometimes twice a day..... to never be able to lose weight.... sigh.... I'll watch the clock.... hehehehehe Now... need to throw in a silly.. I've been too serious today.... Mini meals and eating away from home..... I got parked at the local library for a day and there was no place within a decent walking distance to go get any food... and it would have been BAD fast food anyway... so I had to go equipped to stay safely fed for my ten hours of research and study... how'd I do it? heheheheh I made a BUNCH of my turkey burger meat balls and froze them..And packed them away in my laptop case... I would pull a few aside, inside the bag to defrost... and very slyly stuck one in my mouth every so often.... No one caught me... I didn't make a mess in the areas that I was working! I also had juice and water... It was actually a pretty good day! Now... just imagine... I'm a person that tends to stand out in a crowd.. lugging in this huge laptop case with my junk in it (laptop, note books, headphones... some CDs of animal sounds for white noise), I offered it up at the desk so that they could check it coming in... and again when I left.. no one inspected it though.... I just wonder what they thought of me spending the day there.. sipping out of mountain dew bottles... and getting up every few hours to use the bathroom... and taking that opportunity to move to a different area of the library (I'm a paranoid.. I packed everything up and took it in the bathroom with me so no one would steal my stuff!) The few times that I've been back since they has them grinning big from ear to ear and looking for the laptop case!!! hehehe oh gosh.. now it's the neighbors watching me with puters out on the deck... On really nice days I set up a table and bring out the big machine and a monitor.. not just a laptop.. and make a whole day of it!! hehehehhe Topper () aka ThyroGeek! On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:20:41 -0700 (PDT) DerSpiff writes: I need to get this email printed out and stuck on my fridge and highlight the part about skipping meals. I really see now, now that I'm looking, how bad of a habit that is. I went and applied back at the paper I worked for, and now I'm glad that I didn't get it, because that's the place where I developed all those habits, and I'm about sure that I'd fall right back into them again. Go Go Go, get it done and eat when you get home. It was that way for almost 15 years. Hard habit to break! Spiff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 i want to thank everybody so so much for all your help. linda...i am so grateful for the time you took with your response. i will try and answer your questions and hopefully you can help me with the next step. > > Your Frees, and it's VERY good that they were tested, are showing that > your Free T4 is a bit lower than what 'most people' feel well at which is > about mid range, or slightly over. For the range for the test that your > lab ran, mid range would be 1.3. With the Free T3, 'most folks' feel best > with a Free T3 that is at the top of it's range, or slightly over. Your's > is far to near the bottom of it's range... and you feel crappy.. that > fits. My Frees were only tested b/c i ordered the tests myself from healthcheckusa.com. i havent even talked to any doctors yet. and i really do feel crappy...i am so tired and sleepy all the time. > Since the low carb diet allowed you to lose weight at first, and does not > now... I'm suspecting a lowered metabolic rate... Did that happen from > your eating plan or did it exist before, causing the weight gain that > caused you to change your eating style.... ? It's the classic chicken or > the egg scenario. ok as for my weight i really dont know what happened. i was always overweight even as a vegetarian for 7 years. i was @ 210 but i felt great and was about a size 12-14. i gained over 100 pounds in one year (the year i started eating meat). i started getting my period only like once every 6 months...went to the obgyn and he thought maybe thyroid problems. i really doubted it...i knew i was overeating especially as compared to before. i was never a breakfast eater...i used to go through the whole day with an apple and/or nutrigrain bar and then dinner. apparently whatever blood test he did came back neg and he told me to try and lose weight and see if i got my period. anyway i did atkins and lost about 40 pounds in 4 months, got my period back and thought everything was fine. well i went off the diet b/c i went through a very stressful time in my life...gained back 15 pounds and then could NOT get them off....took 9 months of struggling to drop those same 15 pounds. its never been the same since. > About how many calories to you consume a day? > Do you tend to eat about the same number of calories per day or does it > vary? i eat 1500 cals and 20 carbs a day and my weight wont budge (i am at 275 now). that first time i used to eat 3000/cals and lose. mostly i have been at 1500 for about 6 months with no loss (after the initial 10 pounds of water that i always lose). i am not saying i have to do atkins...i'll try anything its just that, 1) it helps with hunger and 2) i know how fast i initially lost and i just feel like, what the hell?? this SHOULD work if i stick to it enough!!! > Do you have any family history of thyroid problems, either hyper or hypo? i dont really know. i wouldnt be surprised...my mom has tried every single, solitary diet on the planet and i do know that my cousin visited from greece last month and he had a prescription bottle that said " thyroid " on it and took a pill every morning. > What is your ideal/healthy weight (goal)? (not your current weight) i think i would be perfect at 180 for my height (5'9). i think that would make me a size 10. > What is your activity level, couch potato or marathon trainee? at this point i am so exhausted that i am at the couch potato level. i had more energy at 320 pounds than i do at 275. > Do you take supplements, vitamins, minerals, herbs? i do....multi, fish oil, cal/mag/zinc, E, sometimes CLA/GLA, coq10, l-glutamine i have taken others over the past 3 years...kelp, l-carnitine, B, as well as cortislim, trim spa, etc > What vegies do you eat? mostly lettuce, spinach, brocc, cauli, peppers, onions, tomatos > How many times do you eat a day? 3 or 4 > How soon after waking do you have breakfast? a few hours > Low carbing doesn't skew lab results... but too low a caloric intake over > too long a period of time can affect metabolic rate, conversion rate and > gland production.... that's why it might be a good idea to look at that > angle too.... again.. even if only to rule it out. thats what i am worried about > It's very possible to be 'not quite hypo yet' for a long while before it > becomes really noticeable... and the numbers are off enough to cause a > doc to stand up and take notice... so if that is where you're at, the > more that you learn, the better you understand.. the better you will be > able to keep an eye on things and make sure that it's caught before you > body ends up having some recovery time from being too hypo for too long. > When you first started low carbing... what percentage of your body weight > were you hoping to lose? (here I'm looking to see if there may have been > a thyroid issue back then.. then this isn't something that has developed > since... i wanted to lose a lot, i only lost 40 initially but i am thinking, since i lost them SO easily, there was nothing wrong back then??? > Could you do a simple test for me sometime?? After you've been sitting > quietly for about 20 minutes.... check your pulse rate.. what is it? > 84 thanks so much again...i really appreciate your thoughts eve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Yup, more for me it's breaking that habit, and it's gonna be hard. I'll have to try and think of it like I did when I give up chewing ( sorry , ya, I used to.....) I got to thinking, I put $2000 into my teeth, do I really wanna stain it all up and run the risk of my dentist calling my mom and narking on me? Honestly, he'd do it. He thinks of me as one of his kids. I was like WOW........k....am off the stuff. Was weaned off the sugar at home real quick by what the dr said about it and bones. I must admit that I've been a sneaky-snacker here at work, little taffys, tootsie rolls and such because I've been so short of chow at home, and I can hear my neck making that snap snap sound again. This check will go MUCH further so I'm gonna stock back up on the veggies and fruits again. That's another part of my problem, I go thru that stuff so fast, it don't seem to last 2 weeks. Spifftopper2@... wrote: It's such a hard thing to learn, Spiff... I think for a great many of us... For folks that have wonderful healthy bodies with immune systems and hormone systems that can shift and adjust to meet the demands of a day it isn't such a big deal.. but for those of us that are now doing a lot of the regulation and balance that our bodies used to do automatically... well... I think it's an important thing to learn what we can do to help our bodies work the best that they can... I've said this ssoooo many times over the years... but as much of a hassle it is to do some of the stuff that I do to feel well... it's really such a small effort to feel so much better. I was an extreme, granted... but I went for several years needing crutches to walk... and gobbling pain pills done at the rate of 20 to 30 pills at a shot.. I bought them by the 1,000s.. I kid you not.... So, when I feel frustrated about multi-dosing... or avoiding the 'bad foods'.... and eating mini meals every three hours.... what makes more sense? Pop my hormones every few hours... eat a meal every few hours... and have a LIFE..... or just skip all of that and have to go through every second of every minute of every day in pain.... and popping so many pain pills.. well... I still can't believe I never OD'd on the stuff or fried my liver! And even though I ate once, sometimes twice a day..... to never be able to lose weight.... sigh.... I'll watch the clock.... hehehehehe Now... need to throw in a silly.. I've been too serious today.... Mini meals and eating away from home..... I got parked at the local library for a day and there was no place within a decent walking distance to go get any food... and it would have been BAD fast food anyway... so I had to go equipped to stay safely fed for my ten hours of research and study... how'd I do it? heheheheh I made a BUNCH of my turkey burger meat balls and froze them..And packed them away in my laptop case... I would pull a few aside, inside the bag to defrost... and very slyly stuck one in my mouth every so often.... No one caught me... I didn't make a mess in the areas that I was working! I also had juice and water... It was actually a pretty good day! Now... just imagine... I'm a person that tends to stand out in a crowd.. lugging in this huge laptop case with my junk in it (laptop, note books, headphones... some CDs of animal sounds for white noise), I offered it up at the desk so that they could check it coming in... and again when I left.. no one inspected it though.... I just wonder what they thought of me spending the day there.. sipping out of mountain dew bottles... and getting up every few hours to use the bathroom... and taking that opportunity to move to a different area of the library (I'm a paranoid.. I packed everything up and took it in the bathroom with me so no one would steal my stuff!) The few times that I've been back since they has them grinning big from ear to ear and looking for the laptop case!!! hehehe oh gosh.. now it's the neighbors watching me with puters out on the deck... On really nice days I set up a table and bring out the big machine and a monitor.. not just a laptop.. and make a whole day of it!! hehehehhe Topper () aka ThyroGeek! On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:20:41 -0700 (PDT) DerSpiff <mzspiff (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> writes: I need to get this email printed out and stuck on my fridge and highlight the part about skipping meals. I really see now, now that I'm looking, how bad of a habit that is. I went and applied back at the paper I worked for, and now I'm glad that I didn't get it, because that's the place where I developed all those habits, and I'm about sure that I'd fall right back into them again. Go Go Go, get it done and eat when you get home. It was that way for almost 15 years. Hard habit to break! Spiff All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Also, I've included a link to a caloried calculator that lets you input your height, weight, age etc. At 275, I think that 1500 cals is still undereating. http://www.wvda.org/calcs/fcals.htm well it says 2500, but i would easily gain at those cals. even at 180 pounds, which would be my goal, it says 2000 to maintain. i just dont see how that would ever work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Those calculators are based on 'average' metabolism. If you're gaining weight on what is calculated as a maintenance amount.. it is just showing that your metabolic rate is still less than average/normal. The less you eat (I'm talking for those of us dealing with thyroid hormone levels) the lower you energy levels, the lower your metabolic rate, the lower you conversion rate which again further decreases both your energy levels and your metabolic rate. A hypo person can actual diet themselves heavier just by eating to little. The TRICK seems to be to find the correct number of calories to maintain, divide that into smaller amounts that are eaten more often (mini meals) and NEVER skip meals or short daily total calories under the level that the body needs to maintain. There is also a fun spin to this... for us.... As your meds increase and your body becomes more efficient with processes... and you become more active mentally and physically... and your metabolic rate comes up... your Caloric needs increase... if you are still cutting back on calories and don't accommodate that the body perceives it as there not being enough food coming in (that involves both energy and nutrition) and then it does what it has to do to stay alive... it compensates for the insufficient food and drops that metabolic rate right back down. It's a challenge to figure out... and not the same for everyone.. so you pretty much have to figure it out for yourself... One of the clues for low metabolic rate is low body temp... so things like having good labs and feeling better and symptoms reducing yet still having problems with weight management and feeling cold are in my OPINION indicates that there might just be a problem with under eating. My maintenance calories for my goal weight (which is higher than my ideal weight, I choose to go in stages) is 3300 calories. Maintenance is 2200 calories.... I can lose at about 1900 calories per day... An interesting thing that I found when I did all the math for this is that (for my numbers) I need to increase my caloric intake by 25 calories per day every three weeks to keep my metabolism active.. that's based on making weight loss a percentage of actual weight and not a pound per week type goal. Setting a goal of losing (for example) 1 pound per week and expecting to reach that goal by maintaining the same caloric intake over an extended period of time and then when that weight loss stops, reducing the calories... will guarantee a drop in metabolism for a hypo.... and a lot of 'normals' too.. and will cause you to stop losing... or to start gaining. The entire weight loss industry is built around that fact... that you will lose well for a period of time..... and then will gain it back... it makes you a repeat customer. There are folks that beat the odds, as there are exceptions to any rule... but for 'most' folks that's how it works. If it weren't for that very simple fact the diet industry wouldn't be in the billions in profits every year. All this was working great for me... until my finances became moronic and now my food choices are mostly carb and don't vary much as far as choices.. but following the 'rules' I've not gained anything... Topper ()*who still has fun getting out the 'fat pants' and watching them fall to the floor after pulling them up with zipper zipped and snap snapped... wishing I was still able to continue the healthy eating plan and lose more* On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:32:30 -0000 "GREEKEVE" writes:> > Also, I've included a link to a caloried calculator that lets you > input your height, weight, age etc. At 275, I think that 1500 cals > is > still undereating. http://www.wvda.org/calcs/fcals.htm> > well it says 2500, but i would easily gain at those cals. even at > 180 > pounds, which would be my goal, it says 2000 to maintain. i just > dont > see how that would ever work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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