hair test a bit surprising

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Hi again,

I could use some additional brains to help with these results, posted here:

http://users.adelphia.net/~jschmitz/DDtest.jpg

if anyone knowledgable would be willing to take a look.

It seems I meet counting rule #4, just. You can't tell what potassium is by

the graph, it appears to be on the edge of green and yellow, but if you look

at the reference range, it is out of the range, and so it seems, yellow. I

didn't expect to meet any of the rules, actually, since I've been taking a

lot of vitamins and antioxidants most of my adult life, and AC says that can

normalize mineral transport, and make the test meet no counting rules.

One thing i didn't expect is the high levels of Aluminum, arsenic, lead, and

copper. Apparently, according to AC, one shouldn't take some of these

seriously if mineral transport is deranged. But since I barely make one

counting rule, does that mean mineral transport is not so bad, so I should

take them seriously?

Also, the super-high copper is a surprise, since I don't take any

supplements with copper, and don't know what the source could be. Anyone

know what this is about? Could my symptoms have more to do with copper than

mercury?

Any ideas what this means for chelation, etc? I understand ALA may be a

problem...

having a little trouble figuring it out here...

any help appreciated,

NJ

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi again,

>

> I could use some additional brains to help with these results,

posted here:

>

> http://users.adelphia.net/~jschmitz/DDtest.jpg

>

> if anyone knowledgable would be willing to take a look.

>

> It seems I meet counting rule #4, just. You can't tell what

potassium is by

> the graph, it appears to be on the edge of green and yellow, but if

you look

> at the reference range, it is out of the range, and so it seems, yellow.

I agree. It looks like it's right on the line, but if you calculated

it and it is out of range then counting rule 4 is met.

There are other things in this test that indicate mercury. The very

low mercury most likely means that your body isn't excreting it. This

happens with genetically susceptible people when their body reaches a

certain threshold of toxicity. THe low lithium is commonly found in

mercury poisoning.

I

> didn't expect to meet any of the rules, actually, since I've been

taking a

> lot of vitamins and antioxidants most of my adult life, and AC says

that can

> normalize mineral transport, and make the test meet no counting rules.

>

> One thing i didn't expect is the high levels of Aluminum, arsenic,

lead, and

> copper. Apparently, according to AC, one shouldn't take some of these

> seriously if mineral transport is deranged. But since I barely make one

> counting rule, does that mean mineral transport is not so bad, so I

should

> take them seriously?

>

It's difficult to say. Your test has enough indications that a trial

of chelation is the next step (after amalgam removal, I can't remember

if you have completed that step). Chelation with DMSA will remove the

lead. Chelation with ALA or DMPS will remove the arsenic. As

chelation progresses aluminum will be eliminated.

There are supplement interventions to bring copper levels down (I

certainly would take the high copper levels seriously).

> Also, the super-high copper is a surprise, since I don't take any

> supplements with copper, and don't know what the source could be. Anyone

> know what this is about? Could my symptoms have more to do with

copper than

> mercury?

>

It could be that mercury poisoning is preventing copper excretion

leading to a mixed toxicity.

> Any ideas what this means for chelation, etc? I understand ALA may be a

> problem...

>

See Andy's " Hair Test Interpretation " book page 256. The supplements

to reduce copper levels are zinc, molybdenum, and taurine, glycine,

milk thistle, phosphtidylcholine. ALA chelation would have to be

restricted somewhat until copper levels are down under 75.

> having a little trouble figuring it out here...

>

Another thing to note is Ca and Mg down with Na and K up. This

indicates your body is making too much adrenaline and not enough

cortisol. A 4x per day saliva cortisol test may help to see where

your adrenals are at. There are diet, supplement, and lifestyle

strategies to help the adrenals out, and if those aren't sufficient Rx

cortisol.

J

> any help appreciated,

> NJ

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you jaytee, this is extremely helpful.

And I didn't know that at all about the Ca Mg Na K -- adrenals connection,

or the low lithium as a marker.

I also just found this in the Hair Analysis book:

" Aluminum may become elevated due to mercury induced derangement of mineral

transport before the test meets a counting rule Some suspicion regarding the

presence of mercury is appropriate in a test with elevated aluminum... "

It's interesting that the milk thistle that AC recommends, and the taurine

in an energy drink (more than caffeine in other forms) always makes me feel

a bit better. So does progesterone skin creme, which I seem to need to be

able to sleep without a sleeping pill. I just read in the book that " copper

is lowered by progesterone " . I don't know how these (things that lower

copper) could have an immediate (if short-lived and mild) effect, but they

do.

I HAD MY LAST AMALGAMS OUT TODAY!. Worth shouting about, eh?

I will start with DMSA on Sunday, according to protocol.

This mailing list is a really valuable thing. Thanks to all who post here,

and especially those like you who take time to help others.

many thanks,

NJ

>

> It seems I meet counting rule #4, just. You can't tell what

potassium is by

> the graph, it appears to be on the edge of green and yellow, but if

you look

> at the reference range, it is out of the range, and so it seems, yellow.

I agree. It looks like it's right on the line, but if you calculated

it and it is out of range then counting rule 4 is met.

There are other things in this test that indicate mercury. The very

low mercury most likely means that your body isn't excreting it. This

happens with genetically susceptible people when their body reaches a

certain threshold of toxicity. THe low lithium is commonly found in

mercury poisoning.

I

> didn't expect to meet any of the rules, actually, since I've been

taking a

> lot of vitamins and antioxidants most of my adult life, and AC says

that can

> normalize mineral transport, and make the test meet no counting rules.

>

> One thing i didn't expect is the high levels of Aluminum, arsenic,

lead, and

> copper. Apparently, according to AC, one shouldn't take some of these

> seriously if mineral transport is deranged. But since I barely make one

> counting rule, does that mean mineral transport is not so bad, so I

should

> take them seriously?

>

It's difficult to say. Your test has enough indications that a trial

of chelation is the next step (after amalgam removal, I can't remember

if you have completed that step). Chelation with DMSA will remove the

lead. Chelation with ALA or DMPS will remove the arsenic. As

chelation progresses aluminum will be eliminated.

There are supplement interventions to bring copper levels down (I

certainly would take the high copper levels seriously).

> Also, the super-high copper is a surprise, since I don't take any

> supplements with copper, and don't know what the source could be. Anyone

> know what this is about? Could my symptoms have more to do with

copper than

> mercury?

>

It could be that mercury poisoning is preventing copper excretion

leading to a mixed toxicity.

> Any ideas what this means for chelation, etc? I understand ALA may be a

> problem...

>

See Andy's " Hair Test Interpretation " book page 256. The supplements

to reduce copper levels are zinc, molybdenum, and taurine, glycine,

milk thistle, phosphtidylcholine. ALA chelation would have to be

restricted somewhat until copper levels are down under 75.

> having a little trouble figuring it out here...

>

Another thing to note is Ca and Mg down with Na and K up. This

indicates your body is making too much adrenaline and not enough

cortisol. A 4x per day saliva cortisol test may help to see where

your adrenals are at. There are diet, supplement, and lifestyle

strategies to help the adrenals out, and if those aren't sufficient Rx

cortisol.

J

> any help appreciated,

> NJ

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