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If Zoloft is covered by insurance Cortef should be? If you need

Cortef and you have a practitioner who will prescribe it, it will help

you to function better.

There are ways to cut supplement costs. For example, buy ascorbic

acid and magnesium citrate powder in bulk. Or use pharmaceutical

grade epsom salts for magnesium. Make yogurt for probiotics. There

are probably other tricks that other members of the group have. It

isn't necessary to always buy the most expensive supplements.

You need to look after yourself first so that you can care for

everyone else (learned that lesson the hard way too).

J

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> Was taking 20mg of cortef in am and noticing that symptoms of

> irritableness and sudden anger were starting to return. Instead of

> increasing dose or calling practitioner I let myself run out. Boy, that

> has been a mistake but I am having trouble admitting it. It makes me

> depressed that I need it.

>

> I have been working hard on my kids protocal and mine fell apart. It is

> becoming to expensive to treat everybody in this house. I am still

> taking B-right three times a day, vitamin c three times a day, omega

> 3,6,9, Kelp and (using up some old mannatech ao), biotin from pure

> encapsulations and some probiotics. We have had some major financial

> expenses recently and I am not feeling very optimistic. I have some

> Cytozyme -AD from Biotics Research on hand I am hoping this will help.

>

> Would it just be easier to go back on zoloft since it is covered under

> insurance?

>

> Melinda

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> I get the C and make the proiotics, but tell me, LInda, where do

> you get the Magnesium citrate in bulk? I have been taking the stuff

> you can buy in the little green bottles....

Well, here is one, I like to have on hand: I get Activated charcoal

form StarWest Botanicles, for pennies to the dollar compared to what

it costs in a bottle. In bulk, form a health food stroe is better

than bottled as well....

Thanks,

Inga

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> There are ways to cut supplement costs. For example, buy ascorbic

> acid and magnesium citrate powder in bulk. Or use pharmaceutical

> grade epsom salts for magnesium. Make yogurt for probiotics. There

> are probably other tricks that other members of the group have. It

> isn't necessary to always buy the most expensive supplements.

>

> You need to look after yourself first so that you can care for

> everyone else (learned that lesson the hard way too).

>

> J

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> If Zoloft is covered by insurance Cortef should be?

I will ask the pharmacist to check and see if my insurance will cover

it. I know it will cover zoloft.

If you need

> Cortef and you have a practitioner who will prescribe it, it will

help

> you to function better.

>

????

If it will not cover the cortef am I still better off on it than the

zoloft?

> There are ways to cut supplement costs. For example, buy ascorbic

> acid and magnesium citrate powder in bulk. Or use pharmaceutical

> grade epsom salts for magnesium. Make yogurt for probiotics. There

> are probably other tricks that other members of the group have. It

> isn't necessary to always buy the most expensive supplements.

>

I think I am doing a lot of this stuff right with the exception of

making the probiotics. My daughter has had intolerances to dairy and

we use a lot of probiotics. I am not sure how much yogart we would

have to eat to compare. We use epsom salts from wal-mart and I buy

the largest can of Natural Calm I can buy. Vitamin C is pretty cheap.

With all the protcals in our family everything is adding up. My son

and daughters DMPS and my cortef are the biggies. I am not using the

script that the practitioner wrote for ALA. I am using Kirkman brand

and dividing it up because it is less expensive. Every little bit

helps. For our daughter with PDD she uses enzymes from Enzymedica

(Candidase and Digest Gold) and she is taking a lot of carnatine and

folic acid. We use Kirkman CLO. Do you know of a safe brand that is

more economical? The kids are also on Kirkman's multi-vitamin and

mineral which is synthetic but the price isn't too bad. Epicor from

VRP is expensive but it has been soo helpful for my daughter and our

practitioner recommends to only use that brand of epicor. I am always

contemplating price versus value.

> You need to look after yourself first so that you can care for

> everyone else (learned that lesson the hard way too).

>

> J

yes, I do. :) I think what is eatting at me is that I want to get my

amalgams removed and I am having to spend 3,000.00 to keep my

basement dry. It's a bad situation were having to dig down to the

foundation and seal it up on top of tearing out moldey drywall.

My daugther goes to Kindergarten next year and I really would like to

be able to send her to private.

One day at a time. Thanks for listening.

Melinda

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> Was taking 20mg of cortef in am and noticing that symptoms of

> irritableness and sudden anger were starting to return. Instead of

> increasing dose or calling practitioner I let myself run out. Boy, that

> has been a mistake but I am having trouble admitting it. It makes me

> depressed that I need it.

I know what you mean. I had to " experiment " with my dosage of HC to

realize that I needed it. I am much better with it than without it.

You may not have had the right dosage, and that's what was leading

to the irritability and anger. Not sure, but I suggest you ask the

practitioner about the symptoms.

You could also ask if there is a different diagnosis code that might

let it be covered by insurance.

> I have been working hard on my kids protocal and mine fell apart. It is

> becoming to expensive to treat everybody in this house. I am still

> taking B-right three times a day, vitamin c three times a day, omega

> 3,6,9, Kelp and (using up some old mannatech ao), biotin from pure

> encapsulations and some probiotics. We have had some major financial

> expenses recently and I am not feeling very optimistic. I have some

> Cytozyme -AD from Biotics Research on hand I am hoping this will help.

It is worth a try, but if cortef worked before, it may be what

you need.

> Would it just be easier to go back on zoloft since it is covered under

> insurance?

>

> Melinda

I would not dismiss the cortef since it is what was working for

you most recently. Zoloft is another option you can discuss with

your practitioner.

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> If it will not cover the cortef am I still better off on it than the

> zoloft?

>

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Zoloft is a standard psychotropic that will " treat " depression. But

if the depression is being caused by some underlying physical problem,

then using psychotropics will only mask the problem. I have been on

over a dozen different psychotropics and none of them have actually

solved the problem, they only buy you some time in quasi-normal mode.

Most practitioners who prescribe psychotropics believe that

depression is its own disease state and not a symptom of another problem.

AFAIK, Cortef is used to treat a physical problem which can be causing

depression as a symptom, so if it lifts your depression it is probably

a much better solution than masking it.

However, my interpretation of what Andy says in AI is that if using a

standard psychotropic will aid you while you work on the underlying

physical problems, then go for it.

So, if your current situation is overwhelming even when taking the

Cortef, you may want to consider taking the Zoloft (or another

psychotropic) in addition to the Cortef, for a little while.

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