Re: Thyroid for life? - Dean

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> > I'm not going to wait for chelation to repair my thyroid function.

> > I am hoping to improve the dysregulation aspect of things even before

> > chelation is complete by doing the protocol described here:

> > http://www.wilsonsthyroidsyndrome.com

> > (This protocol requires that your adrenals are in good shape or

> > are well supported.)

> > I don't know if this will work for me, but I feel it's worth a try.

>

> Dear ,

> A few days ago I started taking my temps for the first time as per

Dr Rind's

> suggestions and was astounded to find that my temps average about

96.8. (2

> degrees below optimal).

I was also surprised by my low temps. I find that when I am feeling

my " best " , my temp is in the low 96s. I'm not exactly sure what

this means, but my best guess so far is it might be an adrenaline

effect. Try taking it when you're feeling energetic vs. feeling

tired and see if it fits your perceptions.

Take a look at how they vary through the day, too. That will tell

more about adrenal function.

> I had always thought/believed I was hyperthyroid. Lots of energy,

motivated,

> thin etc. I thought the lack of sweating was adrenal in nature.

Well, now I

I used to think I must be hyperthyroid, too. I ate a lot but was

thin and energetic, sometimes got overheated, had a pretty fast

heart rate, etc. I rarely have spells like that anymore.

I think what I used to call " energy " was a kind of " overdrive " that

was necessary in order to function at all.

> surprised. Thanks for posting the answer to my recent internal question.

Well, I hope it's an answer of some sort. Like I said, I don't

know if this will work. But if I could improve my temp even a

little, I would be happy and maybe would need a lower dose of

thyroid long-term.

> It seems likely I need to consider 's Temperature Syndrome.

Reading

> briefly through the link it looks fascinating and resonated. My only

problem

> is that I have no access to sustained release T3 for a trial. Do you

know if

> this can be trialed with normal T3 and if so how?

> Any other comments would be great.

The point is made in the material on the website that you need to

use sustained release T3 to maintain a steady level of T3, otherwise

symptoms are more likely. Even with the SR T3, you are supposed to

take it exactly on time to prevent symptoms - I took a late dose one

night and had a few hours of anxiety and heart pounding as a result.

So based on my experience and on the material I read at the website,

I would not want to try anything other than SR T3 for this protocol.

The idea of the s protocol is to kickstart your own thyroid to

work again so you won't need thyroid hormone. But if you stay on a

regular dose of thyroid this would (hopefully) raise your temp, too.

You may want to talk to other thyroid users to see what their

experience has been with raising temps.

Other ways you can raise your temp on a temporary basis are sauna,

castor oil packs, and warm baths. I find these helpful.

> It seems that since I got my adrenals sorted out (thanks to

chelation) my

> thyroid has gotten relatively weaker.

> I have had dry skin, aching joints, hair changes, feeling cold. All

> recently - last 2 months and sudden onset. All other symptoms have

gone and

> these are new ones that have come out the blue. Not like the fatigue

etc,

> more irritating than debilitating. I just never believed I could have a

> thyroid problem considering how I look/act. Well, now I'm not so sure.

> Thanks for posting this - any further info would be appreciated.

> Dean

Have you had thyroid testing done?

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> I was also surprised by my low temps. I find that when I am feeling

> my " best " , my temp is in the low 96s. I'm not exactly sure what

> this means, but my best guess so far is it might be an adrenaline

> effect. Try taking it when you're feeling energetic vs. feeling

> tired and see if it fits your perceptions.

> Take a look at how they vary through the day, too. That will tell

> more about adrenal function.

Fine are low stabile. Stabile implying adrenals are fine and thyroid is low.

Always around 96.8. Then they start to rise and I'm warmer around 9-11pm

when I have my most energy.

> I used to think I must be hyperthyroid, too. I ate a lot but was

> thin and energetic, sometimes got overheated, had a pretty fast

> heart rate, etc.

> I think what I used to call " energy " was a kind of " overdrive " that

> was necessary in order to function at all.

yes, I'm strating to believe my adrenals have been driving my thyroid.

Keeping me active and alert so that I would burn enough fuel to get my temps

up. Eating constantly never gaining weight.

> Well, I hope it's an answer of some sort. Like I said, I don't

> know if this will work. But if I could improve my temp even a

> little, I would be happy and maybe would need a lower dose of

> thyroid long-term.

Well, I have never even considered thyroid supplementtation as I thought I

was clearly hyperthyroid. I'm intending to start with kelp while I figure

this all out. The great thing about charting temps is that it gives and

indication of the supplement is working or not.

> The point is made in the material on the website that you need to

> use sustained release T3 to maintain a steady level of T3, otherwise

> symptoms are more likely. Even with the SR T3, you are supposed to

> take it exactly on time to prevent symptoms - I took a late dose one

> night and had a few hours of anxiety and heart pounding as a result.

How exactly have you been taking it? As suggested on the website? Can you

summarise please?

> So based on my experience and on the material I read at the website,

> I would not want to try anything other than SR T3 for this protocol.

> The idea of the s protocol is to kickstart your own thyroid to

> work again so you won't need thyroid hormone. But if you stay on a

> regular dose of thyroid this would (hopefully) raise your temp, too.

> You may want to talk to other thyroid users to see what their

> experience has been with raising temps.

Yes I will go towards that lesson.

We seem to be very similar.

Are you young looking?

> Other ways you can raise your temp on a temporary basis are sauna,

> castor oil packs, and warm baths. I find these helpful.

Figured this out for sure!

> Have you had thyroid testing done?

Nope. Never seemed to be a need, but will now.

Thanks .

Dean

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> > I was also surprised by my low temps. I find that when I am feeling

> > my " best " , my temp is in the low 96s. I'm not exactly sure what

> > this means, but my best guess so far is it might be an adrenaline

> > effect. Try taking it when you're feeling energetic vs. feeling

> > tired and see if it fits your perceptions.

> > Take a look at how they vary through the day, too. That will tell

> > more about adrenal function.

>

> Fine are low stabile. Stabile implying adrenals are fine and thyroid

is low.

> Always around 96.8. Then they start to rise and I'm warmer around 9-11pm

> when I have my most energy.

Normal for temps to be higher at night, but not really normal to

have most energy at night...

> > I used to think I must be hyperthyroid, too. I ate a lot but was

> > thin and energetic, sometimes got overheated, had a pretty fast

> > heart rate, etc.

> > I think what I used to call " energy " was a kind of " overdrive " that

> > was necessary in order to function at all.

>

> yes, I'm strating to believe my adrenals have been driving my thyroid.

> Keeping me active and alert so that I would burn enough fuel to get

my temps

> up. Eating constantly never gaining weight.

This sounds like an issue of some kind. I don't think it's normal

or healthy to eat constantly. Adrenal and/or thyroid could be

contributing to this. I know the low, stable temps sound totally

hypothyroid, but....I still wonder about your adrenals.

> > Well, I hope it's an answer of some sort. Like I said, I don't

> > know if this will work. But if I could improve my temp even a

> > little, I would be happy and maybe would need a lower dose of

> > thyroid long-term.

>

> Well, I have never even considered thyroid supplementtation as I

thought I

> was clearly hyperthyroid. I'm intending to start with kelp while I

figure

> this all out. The great thing about charting temps is that it gives and

> indication of the supplement is working or not.

Good idea.

> > The point is made in the material on the website that you need to

> > use sustained release T3 to maintain a steady level of T3, otherwise

> > symptoms are more likely. Even with the SR T3, you are supposed to

> > take it exactly on time to prevent symptoms - I took a late dose one

> > night and had a few hours of anxiety and heart pounding as a result.

>

> How exactly have you been taking it? As suggested on the website?

Can you

> summarise please?

I take SR T3 twice per day, 12 hours apart. This is per the

instructions given for the protocol. They say timing is critical.

Dose starts at 7.5 mcg and is increased daily as long as there

are no symptoms. If you reach 90 mcg without raising your temp,

then you cycle the dose back down.

> > So based on my experience and on the material I read at the website,

> > I would not want to try anything other than SR T3 for this protocol.

> > The idea of the s protocol is to kickstart your own thyroid to

> > work again so you won't need thyroid hormone. But if you stay on a

> > regular dose of thyroid this would (hopefully) raise your temp, too.

> > You may want to talk to other thyroid users to see what their

> > experience has been with raising temps.

>

> Yes I will go towards that lesson.

> We seem to be very similar.

> Are you young looking?

Well...I used to be *very* young-looking. The last several years

have aged me a bit, I think. May have more to do with malabsorption

issues and low hormone levels.

I don't look really old, but have some gray hairs and lines on my

forehead, some smile and frown lines. I don't think I look as young

as I used to.

> > Other ways you can raise your temp on a temporary basis are sauna,

> > castor oil packs, and warm baths. I find these helpful.

>

> Figured this out for sure!

Of course, I forgot who I was talking to!

> > Have you had thyroid testing done?

>

> Nope. Never seemed to be a need, but will now.

Would be interested in hearing about your results.

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> Thanks .

> Dean

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