Re: Tyra Show Curious would you go on the SHOW? To Robbinsnest

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I do not agree with what you posted. My boyfriend has been completely understanding for 7 years. I have also told a few male friends about it and have not had any negative comments. A friends of mines wife had chronic yeast last year and he told me about it, they were not able to have sex and he was completely understanding of it. Now she is better. I do not think men are in denial of it. I find more female friends that I have in denial then my guy friends. My female friends never ask about it, they stare in disbelief when I tell them about this.

I do not think MEN are the reason it is not talked about. I think it is women's choices. If you notice, even many of the women on this board say "down there" instead of vulva or vagina. Oprah is also hestitant to say VAGINA. She says Va jay jay. We need to not be ashamed of our own bodies. That is why I raised the question, who would go on the show...I am pretty vocal, but when I thought about it, part of me did feel too embarrassed to go on National TV to talk about my vagina in front of my employees. It made me think about the fact that a lot of women are uncomfortable discussing their own body parts, even me. It is time for women not to be embarrased about their own bodies. Including me!See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

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Yes we are all entitled to our own opinion and you asked who agrees with what you wrote...so I answered, not sure why you got defensive, you wanted others opinions! Ask 100 people, get 100 different opinions! I did not say anyone was completely wrong, I just said I do not agree. The men I know are loving and caring and understanding, I would not be with one that was not, I would dump his sorry butt!

I do not think this is the fault of men, nor are all men cold and uncaring..that's it! Sometimes people write..if men's penis's were on fire, there would be a cure. Well, women's vulvas are on fire and there can be a cure..there are plenty of women doctors, scientist, we do not need men to figure this out! have a good day!See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

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Blueberrie:

My comment is from my experience. It is also

generalized. Maybe it is true of some and not of

all.

There are deeply engrained reasons for this being kept

quiet.

Great that you've found someone like that, I did not.

I do agree that women are in denial of it, there are

even types out there who will say that because they

don't have a problem, it must not exist.

Don't be too quick to say that I'm completely wrong, I

know I'm not.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

--- blueeberri@... wrote:

> I do not agree with what you posted. My boyfriend

> has been completely

> understanding for 7 years. I have also told a few

> male friends about it and have

> not had any negative comments. A friends of mines

> wife had chronic yeast last

> year and he told me about it, they were not able to

> have sex and he was

> completely understanding of it. Now she is better. I

> do not think men are in

> denial of it. I find more female friends that I have

> in denial then my guy

> friends. My female friends never ask about it, they

> stare in disbelief when I tell

> them about this.

> I do not think MEN are the reason it is not talked

> about. I think it is

> women's choices. If you notice, even many of the

> women on this board say " down

> there " instead of vulva or vagina. Oprah is also

> hestitant to say VAGINA. She

> says Va jay jay. We need to not be ashamed of our

> own bodies. That is why I

> raised the question, who would go on the show...I am

> pretty vocal, but when I

> thought about it, part of me did feel too

> embarrassed to go on National TV to

> talk about my vagina in front of my employees. It

> made me think about the fact

> that a lot of women are uncomfortable discussing

> their own body parts, even

> me. It is time for women not to be embarrased about

> their own bodies.

> Including me!

>

>

>

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> new at http://www.aol.com

>

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I did dump his sorry butt! I couldn't fulfill his

" needs " and he didn't understand mine, so...bye.

)

Guess I just got sick of trying to work with equipment

that doesn't work. I have spend 12 years of my life

with problems with my vulvas. It seems to be

hereditary. I'm 42 now and still don't have the

answers I was looking for over a decade ago. (I need

to get to U of M, but I'm just so scared that it's

going to be one more devastatingly disappointing dead

end.)

I developed that thought while taking Women's studies.

It really is an eye opener just how much women HAD

been subjugated by, sorry, but by men. Witch trials

and all that fun stuff. The old Wise women who were

hushed, they used to be the doctors and then men kind

of took over and said that you can only be a doctor if

you go to University and you can only go to a

University if you are a man. Women were labelled

witches if they gathered in groups.

The word Frigid itself has interesting origins, it was

thought that a " Witch " was a woman who had had sex

with the Devil and that his penis was a frozen cold

object. Thus the witch was frigid, and frigid is a

woman who won't have sex.

That's where I connected the dots...in history.

Throughout history, what do you think the plight of

women with vulvodynia has been?

Like I said, it was an eye opener.

I know loving, caring men too...but they still didn't

stay. This is now though, and times have changed

somewhat. How much of the witchhunt is still on?

And yes, I asked for opinions. I wonder how true it

is or isn't, I mean, if you polled 1000 men, what

percentage would say they don't want to give the wife

an excuse, and what percentage would say they would

stick with a woman for 12 years while she sorted it

all out? I'll bet it's quite a spread.

Scientifically, how many men are like Archie Bunker

and how many are like your man?

Sorry I got defensive...but then why are women so

afraid to talk about this? And I just wonder, if

someone really did get up there and vocalize it, would

she come under fire from the Archie Bunker crowd?

My friends of both sexes just listen b/c they have no

idea what to think of it.

And you're right, with women doctors and scientists,

researchers, we're already getting somewhere!

You have a good day too.

--- blueeberri@... wrote:

> Yes we are all entitled to our own opinion and you

> asked who agrees with

> what you wrote...so I answered, not sure why you got

> defensive, you wanted

> others opinions! Ask 100 people, get 100 different

> opinions! I did not say anyone

> was completely wrong, I just said I do not agree.

> The men I know are loving

> and caring and understanding, I would not be with

> one that was not, I would

> dump his sorry butt!

> I do not think this is the fault of men, nor are all

> men cold and

> uncaring..that's it! Sometimes people write..if

> men's penis's were on fire, there would

> be a cure. Well, women's vulvas are on fire and

> there can be a cure..there

> are plenty of women doctors, scientist, we do not

> need men to figure this out!

> have a good day!

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's

> new at http://www.aol.com

>

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[Guest guest]

,

I think it's wonderful that your boyfriend and other male

friends have no problem with this. I wish all of us who had

male friends were that wonderful. I've talked about my problems

in that area to one of my male friends and he just doesn't get

it because he thinks it's all just about my endometriosis and

it's not although my endometriosis is just one of my many

problems healthwise.

Kristy

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I'm so blessed to have a hubby who has been awesome, too. We had an

amazing sex life before all of this crap happened so the difference

is really obvious. But he goes to most of my doc's appointments with

me, he does pt on me several times per week, he is more understanding

and supportive than even my mom is. This problem is one of those sad

litmus tests that relationships go through sometimes. My first

husband would have been AWFUL and horrible through this, but he was a

genrally worthless person anyways, so I know that there is a huge

difference in having somebody that is supportive or not. I guess my

point is that there are some good ones out there that love and stay

and will be there for you. You don't deserve anything less. These

things happen in life-people get sick, tragedies happen, etc. You

deserve to be somebody who will be there for you " in sickness and

health. "

Lindsey

>

> My hubby and I have been dealing with this for 4 years - 4 years of

> little to no sex, and if there was sex - it certainly wasn't

> satisfying. He has been incredible. There are good men out there

and I

> know how blessed I am to have one. Some men stay.

> Melinda

>