Re: What could be causing anxiety/agitation? (a little long...sorry)

[Guest guest]

My guess would be that the combination of the Prozac and T3 in Armour might be

too stimulating. Prozac is one of the most stimulating of the SSRI's and even

makes many people crazy and manic. I had a severe adverse reaction to it and

had to go to the ER back in 2002. How long have you been on both?

What could be causing anxiety/agitation? (a little

long...sorry)

I am on 60 mg of Armour first thing in the morning. About 1/2 hour later, I

take some

other meds including Prozac (for anxiety) and Adreset (for adrenal support). I

also drink

some coffee, but it is only half caffeinated. About 1 to 3 hours after taking

the Armour, I

sometimes feel hyper and agitated and become impatient and irritable quickly.

I also feel

like my pulse is more rapid and I get out of breath more easily. The feelings

then come

and go throughout the day. I was like this before I ever took SSRI's, so

I'm not sure why it's resurfacing. I know Prozac is bad, but I have been on

SSRI's for the

past 12 years for anxiety disorder (I have tried many of them, unfortunately).

I'm wondering if I'm taking something I shouldn't, if I'm on too high a dose

of Armour, or

if I need to add something to feel calm and normal. Any thoughts? In case it

helps, here

are my most recent labs:

TSH 0.16 (0.30 - 5.00 uIU/mL)

FT4 0.6 (0.6 - 1.6 ng/dL)

FT3 3.33 (2.30 - 4.20 pg/mL)

Reverse T3 251 (90 - 350 pg/mL)

I have normal serum DHEA, but low saliva DHEA. My saliva cortisol tests were

all in the

low end of normal, but the late night number was very low. My DHEA/Cortisol

ratio was

low,

too.

Thanks so much in advance!

Jodi

[Guest guest]

My guess would be that the combination of the Prozac and T3 in Armour might be

too stimulating. Prozac is one of the most stimulating of the SSRI's and even

makes many people crazy and manic. I had a severe adverse reaction to it and

had to go to the ER back in 2002. How long have you been on both?

What could be causing anxiety/agitation? (a little

long...sorry)

I am on 60 mg of Armour first thing in the morning. About 1/2 hour later, I

take some

other meds including Prozac (for anxiety) and Adreset (for adrenal support). I

also drink

some coffee, but it is only half caffeinated. About 1 to 3 hours after taking

the Armour, I

sometimes feel hyper and agitated and become impatient and irritable quickly.

I also feel

like my pulse is more rapid and I get out of breath more easily. The feelings

then come

and go throughout the day. I was like this before I ever took SSRI's, so

I'm not sure why it's resurfacing. I know Prozac is bad, but I have been on

SSRI's for the

past 12 years for anxiety disorder (I have tried many of them, unfortunately).

I'm wondering if I'm taking something I shouldn't, if I'm on too high a dose

of Armour, or

if I need to add something to feel calm and normal. Any thoughts? In case it

helps, here

are my most recent labs:

TSH 0.16 (0.30 - 5.00 uIU/mL)

FT4 0.6 (0.6 - 1.6 ng/dL)

FT3 3.33 (2.30 - 4.20 pg/mL)

Reverse T3 251 (90 - 350 pg/mL)

I have normal serum DHEA, but low saliva DHEA. My saliva cortisol tests were

all in the

low end of normal, but the late night number was very low. My DHEA/Cortisol

ratio was

low,

too.

Thanks so much in advance!

Jodi

[Guest guest]

My guess would be that the combination of the Prozac and T3 in Armour might be

too stimulating. Prozac is one of the most stimulating of the SSRI's and even

makes many people crazy and manic. I had a severe adverse reaction to it and

had to go to the ER back in 2002. How long have you been on both?

What could be causing anxiety/agitation? (a little

long...sorry)

I am on 60 mg of Armour first thing in the morning. About 1/2 hour later, I

take some

other meds including Prozac (for anxiety) and Adreset (for adrenal support). I

also drink

some coffee, but it is only half caffeinated. About 1 to 3 hours after taking

the Armour, I

sometimes feel hyper and agitated and become impatient and irritable quickly.

I also feel

like my pulse is more rapid and I get out of breath more easily. The feelings

then come

and go throughout the day. I was like this before I ever took SSRI's, so

I'm not sure why it's resurfacing. I know Prozac is bad, but I have been on

SSRI's for the

past 12 years for anxiety disorder (I have tried many of them, unfortunately).

I'm wondering if I'm taking something I shouldn't, if I'm on too high a dose

of Armour, or

if I need to add something to feel calm and normal. Any thoughts? In case it

helps, here

are my most recent labs:

TSH 0.16 (0.30 - 5.00 uIU/mL)

FT4 0.6 (0.6 - 1.6 ng/dL)

FT3 3.33 (2.30 - 4.20 pg/mL)

Reverse T3 251 (90 - 350 pg/mL)

I have normal serum DHEA, but low saliva DHEA. My saliva cortisol tests were

all in the

low end of normal, but the late night number was very low. My DHEA/Cortisol

ratio was

low,

too.

Thanks so much in advance!

Jodi

[Guest guest]

I think you are reacting the Armour dose because with that and Prozac you

are putting too much stress on your adrenals. I don't know if Adreset is

strong enough or what is in it, but you need cortisol support and to track

your daily temps like the Dr. Rind site explains. Your cortisol levels are

too low.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

I am on 60 mg of Armour first thing in the morning. About 1/2 hour later,

I take some

other meds including Prozac (for anxiety) and Adreset (for adrenal

support). I also drink

some coffee, but it is only half caffeinated. About 1 to 3 hours after

taking the Armour, I

sometimes feel hyper and agitated and become impatient and irritable

quickly. I also feel

like my pulse is more rapid and I get out of breath more easily. The

feelings then come

and go throughout the day. I was like this before I ever took SSRI's, so

I'm not sure why it's resurfacing. I know Prozac is bad, but I have been

on SSRI's for the

past 12 years for anxiety disorder (I have tried many of them,

unfortunately).

.

[Guest guest]

I think you are reacting the Armour dose because with that and Prozac you

are putting too much stress on your adrenals. I don't know if Adreset is

strong enough or what is in it, but you need cortisol support and to track

your daily temps like the Dr. Rind site explains. Your cortisol levels are

too low.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

I am on 60 mg of Armour first thing in the morning. About 1/2 hour later,

I take some

other meds including Prozac (for anxiety) and Adreset (for adrenal

support). I also drink

some coffee, but it is only half caffeinated. About 1 to 3 hours after

taking the Armour, I

sometimes feel hyper and agitated and become impatient and irritable

quickly. I also feel

like my pulse is more rapid and I get out of breath more easily. The

feelings then come

and go throughout the day. I was like this before I ever took SSRI's, so

I'm not sure why it's resurfacing. I know Prozac is bad, but I have been

on SSRI's for the

past 12 years for anxiety disorder (I have tried many of them,

unfortunately).

.

[Guest guest]

I think you are reacting the Armour dose because with that and Prozac you

are putting too much stress on your adrenals. I don't know if Adreset is

strong enough or what is in it, but you need cortisol support and to track

your daily temps like the Dr. Rind site explains. Your cortisol levels are

too low.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

I am on 60 mg of Armour first thing in the morning. About 1/2 hour later,

I take some

other meds including Prozac (for anxiety) and Adreset (for adrenal

support). I also drink

some coffee, but it is only half caffeinated. About 1 to 3 hours after

taking the Armour, I

sometimes feel hyper and agitated and become impatient and irritable

quickly. I also feel

like my pulse is more rapid and I get out of breath more easily. The

feelings then come

and go throughout the day. I was like this before I ever took SSRI's, so

I'm not sure why it's resurfacing. I know Prozac is bad, but I have been

on SSRI's for the

past 12 years for anxiety disorder (I have tried many of them,

unfortunately).

.

[Guest guest]

Thanks everyone for trying to help me. I don't like being fatigued, but this

constant hyper

feeling is really weird.

No, I am not on Cortisol. My doc who is treating my thyroid/adrenals has only

been

helping me since November and I think she is making changes gradually to see

what will

help. My blood DHEA was normal. Here are the results of my saliva testing

(through

Genova Diagnostics):

Cortisol:

0.49 (range 0.27 - 1.18 mcg/dl) 7 - 9 a.m.

0.23 (range 0.10 - 0.41) 11 a.m - 1 p.m.

0.13 (range 0.05 - 0.27) 3 - 5 p.m.

<0.03 (range 0.03 - 0.14) 10 p.m. - 12 a.m.

DHEA 7 - 9 a.m. - 74 (range 71 - 640 pg/ml)

DHEA: Cortisol Ratio/10,000 - 151 (115 - 1,188)

I'm not sure if this is what you were asking, Val, but my first labs in June of

'07 had my

TSH at 5.2 (range of 0.30 - 5.0) and my FT4 at 0.8 (range of 0.6 - 1.6). I only

had RT3

tested once. My FT4 has never gotten out of the basement, so don't know what's

going on

there.

Also, I stopped taking my Pravachol (statin drug to lower cholesterol) about 3

weeks ago

because I thought it could be adding to my bad muscle aches. Maybe getting the

Pravachol out of my system has me metabolizing the other meds differently?

Thanks again for all your help!

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Cheri, my doc is treating my adrenal fatigue with Adreset (contains ginseng,

rhodiola and

cordyceps). I also take DGL licorice (to help with IBS) and phosphatidylserine

(before bedtime

to help with sleep).

Val, what type of HC do you recommend I start with and in what doses?

Thanks so much, all, for sharing your time and knowledge!

Jodi

[Guest guest]

There is only one kind of HC unless oyu conside slow release which I do

not ever recommend. You could use OTC cream as it is readily available

and will not require a script or an argument woith a doctor. Or if you

need it we have sources to order over seas,At any rate there is a ramp

up schedule in our files uner " How to treat adrenals " that will take you

up to 20MG and there you wouldhold and graph temps three times a day

following the method described at www.drrind.com as this is the best way

to monitor whne you have ENOUGH cortils once on HC. The 1% cream

contains 10MG HC per 1/4 teaspoon so a dosing syringe or measuring

spoons for small amounts is needed.

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