Re: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptension

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>Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic

hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to

explain.

The adrenal group reopens today so it may be worth posting this in

there as well as there are people there with more experience of these

issues.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/

Nick

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for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

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okay..this is a stupid question..but what do people do if they join both groups? I mean they will get so many emails it will be hard to even find their own.>Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to explain. The adrenal group reopens today so it may be worth posting this inthere as well as there are people there with more experience of theseissues.http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/Nick-- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid-rt3.com------------------------------------We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with

the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

>okay..this is a stupid question..but what do people do if they join both

groups? I mean they will get so many emails it will be hard to even find their

own.

There are various approaches, if you are getting individual e-mails

make sure your e-mail program groups the replies with the original

message

Again with individual messages get it to sort them into separate

folders for each group so they are not all in the in box (you can do

that with yahoo web mai as well as e-mail programs)

Digest reduces the number of messages butt doesn't necessarily group

things well.

You can also use the yahoo web interface to look at related messages

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

Digest reduces the number off

[Guest guest]

>okay..this is a stupid question..but what do people do if they join both

groups? I mean they will get so many emails it will be hard to even find their

own.

There are various approaches, if you are getting individual e-mails

make sure your e-mail program groups the replies with the original

message

Again with individual messages get it to sort them into separate

folders for each group so they are not all in the in box (you can do

that with yahoo web mai as well as e-mail programs)

Digest reduces the number of messages butt doesn't necessarily group

things well.

You can also use the yahoo web interface to look at related messages

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

Digest reduces the number off

[Guest guest]

Oh Kitty thank you so much for that answer!

I did try flonef, but felt very bad on it..I started low..but just stuggled and gave up.

I do use salt liberally which is why my last bloodwork at the dr office shocked me that my sodium was 147 (135-145) and potassium 4.2

then in the ER this week after vominting alot it was

sodium 139 poatassium 3.9

Now those the Dr said were fine, bu I recognize as low.

My confusion is why was it so high before? Now of course Im afraid to use salt liberally.

I do suffer from estrogendommenance and low progesterone. I have to take 100 mil of progesterone a day. I have to take it everyday except 3 days during the first of my period, due to shaking and endometriosis.

From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptensionTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 7:08 PM

Orthostatic hypotension is usually from low aldosterone. Have you had that checked? Extra salt water can help this sometimes though it won't last if your aldosterone is very low. Mine was only 4 <range <=21>, when it is really bad it is called salt wasting. You can take in salt all day and it doesn't matter because you just pee it out.

Kitty

From: l <leisamelanie@ yahoo.com>To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Sat, May 15, 2010 9:01:01 PMSubject: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptension

Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to explain. one bloodwork said my sodium was too high 147...and then a week later in the ER it was 139. Very confused as if sodium even helps it. Maybe its potassium that I should be focusing on...or perhaps more isocort, although I take 14 a day. Unfortunantly coffee helps it in the morning and wine helps it a bit at night.

[Guest guest]

The salt supplementing starting recommendation is 1/2 teaspoon Celtic sea salt

dissolved in a glass of water, AM and PM. Some of us find we need more, but

that's a good place to start.

link to salt

http://www.celticseasalt.com/Celtic-Sea-Salt-Light-Grey-C8.aspx

You might want to get your progesterone tested. Low progesterone can

contribute to low aldosterone, as the body uses progesterone to make

aldosterone.

" aldosterone is made from progesterone "

sttm link

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/aldosterone/

>

> >Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic

hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to

explain.

>

> The adrenal group reopens today so it may be worth posting this in

> there as well as there are people there with more experience of these

> issues.

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

> Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/

>

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

[Guest guest]

The salt supplementing starting recommendation is 1/2 teaspoon Celtic sea salt

dissolved in a glass of water, AM and PM. Some of us find we need more, but

that's a good place to start.

link to salt

http://www.celticseasalt.com/Celtic-Sea-Salt-Light-Grey-C8.aspx

You might want to get your progesterone tested. Low progesterone can

contribute to low aldosterone, as the body uses progesterone to make

aldosterone.

" aldosterone is made from progesterone "

sttm link

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/aldosterone/

>

> >Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic

hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to

explain.

>

> The adrenal group reopens today so it may be worth posting this in

> there as well as there are people there with more experience of these

> issues.

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

> Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/

>

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

[Guest guest]

Leisa,

My symptoms of low aldosterone are: constant peeing, constant thirst,

orthostatic hypotension, pupils flutter w/light, light sensitivity especially at

night, tinnitus, feeling exhausted in the morning.

I've been using the licorice for about a week. I think it helps with the

exhaustion in the morning, but not completely. I still can't get a full night of

sleep because I get up 2-3 times to pee. When I do get 6 hours straight, which

is maybe once a week I feel great in the morning. I haven't had the OH except

for one day after using melatonin at night (big mistake!!!). I haven't noticed

whether the light sensitivity has improved or not, but I don't get the weird

vision problems that I used to. Some of this has probably improved with HC. I'm

not sure the licorice is working yet or not. I still have to pee constantly and

am still always thirsty. The tinnitus is also still there 24/7. I'm going to

give it one more week and then I will probably ask my doc for the Florinef.

Kitty's experience on Florinef gives me some hope that it might be the right way

to go.

--Steph

> >

> >

> > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@>

> > Subject: Re: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptension

> > To: RT3_T3

> > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 7:08 PM

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> > Orthostatic hypotension is usually from low aldosterone. Have you had that

checked? Extra salt water can help this sometimes though it won't last if your

aldosterone is very low. Mine was only 4 <range <=21>, when it is really bad it

is called salt wasting. You can take in salt all day and it doesn't matter

because you just pee it out.

> >

> > Kitty

> >

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> > From: l <leisamelanie@>

> > To: RT3_T3

> > Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 9:01:01 PM

> > Subject: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptension

> >

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> > Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic

hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to

explain.

> > one bloodwork said my sodium was too high 147...and then a week later in the

ER it was 139. Very confused as if sodium even helps it. Maybe its potassium

that I should be focusing on...or perhaps more isocort, although I take 14 a

day. Unfortunantly coffee helps it in the morning and wine helps it a bit at

night.

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences.

Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups

Links

>

[Guest guest]

Leisa,

My symptoms of low aldosterone are: constant peeing, constant thirst,

orthostatic hypotension, pupils flutter w/light, light sensitivity especially at

night, tinnitus, feeling exhausted in the morning.

I've been using the licorice for about a week. I think it helps with the

exhaustion in the morning, but not completely. I still can't get a full night of

sleep because I get up 2-3 times to pee. When I do get 6 hours straight, which

is maybe once a week I feel great in the morning. I haven't had the OH except

for one day after using melatonin at night (big mistake!!!). I haven't noticed

whether the light sensitivity has improved or not, but I don't get the weird

vision problems that I used to. Some of this has probably improved with HC. I'm

not sure the licorice is working yet or not. I still have to pee constantly and

am still always thirsty. The tinnitus is also still there 24/7. I'm going to

give it one more week and then I will probably ask my doc for the Florinef.

Kitty's experience on Florinef gives me some hope that it might be the right way

to go.

--Steph

> >

> >

> > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@>

> > Subject: Re: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptension

> > To: RT3_T3

> > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 7:08 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Orthostatic hypotension is usually from low aldosterone. Have you had that

checked? Extra salt water can help this sometimes though it won't last if your

aldosterone is very low. Mine was only 4 <range <=21>, when it is really bad it

is called salt wasting. You can take in salt all day and it doesn't matter

because you just pee it out.

> >

> > Kitty

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From: l <leisamelanie@>

> > To: RT3_T3

> > Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 9:01:01 PM

> > Subject: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptension

> >

> >

> >

> > Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic

hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to

explain.

> > one bloodwork said my sodium was too high 147...and then a week later in the

ER it was 139. Very confused as if sodium even helps it. Maybe its potassium

that I should be focusing on...or perhaps more isocort, although I take 14 a

day. Unfortunantly coffee helps it in the morning and wine helps it a bit at

night.

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences.

Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups

Links

>

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You may have missed my last post. I take 100m progesterone everyday. I cant skip weeks like the majority of people. I shake too much.

I have been taking sea salt...but now am afraid to since a bloodtest showed sodim of 147h ( 135-145) Some times Im not sure if I need more salt or potassium and its confusing. as the following week a bloodtest showed ( granted I had been throwing up) sodium 139 potassium 3.9

Subject: Re: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptensionTo: RT3_T3 Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 8:11 AM

The salt supplementing starting recommendation is 1/2 teaspoon Celtic sea saltdissolved in a glass of water, AM and PM. Some of us find we need more, butthat's a good place to start.link to salthttp://www.celticseasalt.com/Celtic-Sea-Salt-Light-Grey-C8.aspxYou might want to get your progesterone tested. Low progesterone cancontribute to low aldosterone, as the body uses progesterone to makealdosterone."aldosterone is made from progesterone"sttm linkhttp://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/aldosterone/> > >Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to explain. > > The adrenal group reopens today so it may be worth posting this in> there as well as there are people there with more experience of these> issues.> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/> > Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/> > > Nick> > -- > > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to > > www.thyroid-rt3.com>------------------------------------We are not medical professionals

here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Thank you ! Please keep me posted on how you do if you do flornef.

Subject: Re: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptensionTo: RT3_T3 Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 8:12 AM

Leisa,My symptoms of low aldosterone are: constant peeing, constant thirst, orthostatic hypotension, pupils flutter w/light, light sensitivity especially at night, tinnitus, feeling exhausted in the morning.I've been using the licorice for about a week. I think it helps with the exhaustion in the morning, but not completely. I still can't get a full night of sleep because I get up 2-3 times to pee. When I do get 6 hours straight, which is maybe once a week I feel great in the morning. I haven't had the OH except for one day after using melatonin at night (big mistake!!!). I haven't noticed whether the light sensitivity has improved or not, but I don't get the weird vision problems that I used to. Some of this has probably improved with HC. I'm not sure the licorice is working yet or not. I still have to pee constantly and am still always thirsty. The tinnitus is also still there 24/7. I'm going to give it one more

week and then I will probably ask my doc for the Florinef. Kitty's experience on Florinef gives me some hope that it might be the right way to go.--Steph> > > > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@>> > Subject: Re: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptension> > To: RT3_T3 > > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 7:08 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Orthostatic hypotension is usually from low aldosterone. Have you had that checked? Extra salt water can help this sometimes though it won't last if your aldosterone is very low. Mine was only 4 <range <=21>, when it is really bad it is called salt wasting. You can take in salt all day and it doesn't matter because you just pee it out.> > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > From: l <leisamelanie@>> > To: RT3_T3 >

> Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 9:01:01 PM> > Subject: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptension> > > > > > > > Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to explain. > > one bloodwork said my sodium was too high 147...and then a week later in the ER it was 139. Very confused as if sodium even helps it. Maybe its potassium that I should be focusing on...or perhaps more isocort, although I take 14 a day. Unfortunantly coffee helps it in the morning and wine helps it a bit at night.> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups

Links>------------------------------------We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

You shake from stopping Progesterone? Boy, that does sound like your body is

converting it to cortisol or aldosterone. Leisa, I really think you need ot up

your Isocort. One shouldn't have to rely on PG to meet their cortisol needs.

I posted to you a minute ago in detail. Hope you get it.

Maybe Isocort works better for you as it *might* have some aldosterone in it,

seeing as it is an extract and not pure HC.

Unfortunately, I don't really know how to tell, either, if one needs more sodium

or more potassium. I mean, if your BP falls or you have a fast pulse not due to

being hyper, often you need more sodium. For me, I just had to experiment with

the potassium and see what happened. The RDA is 4500, so I wasn't too concerned

trying 3500 a day seeing as I get barely none from my diet. I low-carb. You

could try for a week and then restest when you are not vomiting.

Kathleen

> >

> > >Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic

hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to

explain.

> >

> > The adrenal group reopens today so it may be worth posting this in

> > there as well as there are people there with more experience of these

> > issues.

> >

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> >

> > Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/

> >

> >

> > Nick

> >

> > --

> >

> > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

> >

> > www.thyroid-rt3.com

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences.

Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups

Links

>

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If you take salt up until right before a blood test it will come back as high. My guess is you didn't stop salt before the test? Maybe you were really dehydrated? Do you drink enough water? How much salt do you consider liberal? I need 4-5 teaspoons a day plus what ever I put in food!

Kitty

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 9:46:57 AMSubject: Re: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptension

Oh Kitty thank you so much for that answer!

I did try flonef, but felt very bad on it..I started low..but just stuggled and gave up.

I do use salt liberally which is why my last bloodwork at the dr office shocked me that my sodium was 147 (135-145) and potassium 4.2

then in the ER this week after vominting alot it was

sodium 139 poatassium 3.9

Now those the Dr said were fine, bu I recognize as low.

My confusion is why was it so high before? Now of course Im afraid to use salt liberally.

I do suffer from estrogendommenance and low progesterone. I have to take 100 mil of progesterone a day. I have to take it everyday except 3 days during the first of my period, due to shaking and endometriosis.

From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptensionTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 7:08 PM

Orthostatic hypotension is usually from low aldosterone. Have you had that checked? Extra salt water can help this sometimes though it won't last if your aldosterone is very low. Mine was only 4 <range <=21>, when it is really bad it is called salt wasting. You can take in salt all day and it doesn't matter because you just pee it out.

Kitty

From: l <leisamelanie@ yahoo.com>To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Sat, May 15, 2010 9:01:01 PMSubject: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptension

Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to explain. one bloodwork said my sodium was too high 147...and then a week later in the ER it was 139. Very confused as if sodium even helps it. Maybe its potassium that I should be focusing on...or perhaps more isocort, although I take 14 a day. Unfortunantly coffee helps it in the morning and wine helps it a bit at night.

[Guest guest]

Kathleen,

I have to ask another question as you seem to have been through lots of this..

I now have more confidence to try more isocort...and so am now questioning the correct t3 level. As I said the 100mcg was considered too high...One of the reasons I accepted this from a Dr was because I had the symptom of numbish fingers( maybe like blood sugar ,not sure though, maybe lack of oxygen)..My Dr said it was from being hyper.( I did have a high t3 level as well.) Well, she was right, after I went down to 75 mcg..the numbishness went away! But a few weeks later, I had horrible hip pain from a simple kickboxing exercise class. This pain dibilitated me for 5 months..the mri said tendonisis. Hypothyroid!

So now Im taking 87. and hip is feeling much better already..but I am feeling a touch of that needling sensation in my feet(not hands).

Question; Does the hand/foot thing sound like a hyper symptom..or adrenal?

thank you, leisa

Subject: Re: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptensionTo: RT3_T3 Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 10:55 AM

You shake from stopping Progesterone? Boy, that does sound like your body is converting it to cortisol or aldosterone. Leisa, I really think you need ot up your Isocort. One shouldn't have to rely on PG to meet their cortisol needs.I posted to you a minute ago in detail. Hope you get it.Maybe Isocort works better for you as it *might* have some aldosterone in it, seeing as it is an extract and not pure HC.Unfortunately, I don't really know how to tell, either, if one needs more sodium or more potassium. I mean, if your BP falls or you have a fast pulse not due to being hyper, often you need more sodium. For me, I just had to experiment with the potassium and see what happened. The RDA is 4500, so I wasn't too concerned trying 3500 a day seeing as I get barely none from my diet. I low-carb. You could try for a week and then restest when you are not vomiting.Kathleen> > > > >Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to explain. > > > > The adrenal group reopens today so it may be worth posting this in> > there as well as there are people there with more experience of these> > issues.> > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/> > > > Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/> > > > > > Nick> > > > -- > > > > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to > > > > www.thyroid-rt3.com> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

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I had tingling sensations in my hands/feet almost constantly before I started Florinef. I think it is a low aldosterone/sodium symptom.

Kitty

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 6:49:54 PMSubject: Re: Re: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptension

Kathleen,

I have to ask another question as you seem to have been through lots of this..

I now have more confidence to try more isocort...and so am now questioning the correct t3 level. As I said the 100mcg was considered too high...One of the reasons I accepted this from a Dr was because I had the symptom of numbish fingers( maybe like blood sugar ,not sure though, maybe lack of oxygen)..My Dr said it was from being hyper.( I did have a high t3 level as well.) Well, she was right, after I went down to 75 mcg..the numbishness went away! But a few weeks later, I had horrible hip pain from a simple kickboxing exercise class. This pain dibilitated me for 5 months..the mri said tendonisis. Hypothyroid!

So now Im taking 87. and hip is feeling much better already..but I am feeling a touch of that needling sensation in my feet(not hands).

Question; Does the hand/foot thing sound like a hyper symptom..or adrenal?

thank you, leisa

From: keickholt13 <keickholt13@ comcast.net>Subject: Re: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptensionTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 10:55 AM

You shake from stopping Progesterone? Boy, that does sound like your body is converting it to cortisol or aldosterone. Leisa, I really think you need ot up your Isocort. One shouldn't have to rely on PG to meet their cortisol needs.I posted to you a minute ago in detail. Hope you get it.Maybe Isocort works better for you as it *might* have some aldosterone in it, seeing as it is an extract and not pure HC.Unfortunately, I don't really know how to tell, either, if one needs more sodium or more potassium. I mean, if your BP falls or you have a fast pulse not due to being hyper, often you need more sodium. For me, I just had to experiment with the potassium and see what happened. The RDA is 4500, so I wasn't too concerned trying 3500 a day seeing as I get barely none from my diet. I low-carb. You could try for a week and then restest when you are not vomiting.Kathleen> > > > >Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to explain. > > > > The adrenal group reopens today so it may be worth posting this in> > there as well as there are people there with more experience of these> > issues.> > > > http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/> > > > Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp. webs.com/> > > > > > Nick> > > > -- > > > > for

more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to > > > > www.thyroid- rt3.com> >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

wow thanks!

From: keickholt13 <keickholt13@ comcast.net>Subject: Re: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptensionTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 10:55 AM

You shake from stopping Progesterone? Boy, that does sound like your body is converting it to cortisol or aldosterone. Leisa, I really think you need ot up your Isocort. One shouldn't have to rely on PG to meet their cortisol needs.I posted to you a minute ago in detail. Hope you get it.Maybe Isocort works better for you as it *might* have some aldosterone in it, seeing as it is an extract and not pure HC.Unfortunately, I don't really know how to tell, either, if one needs more sodium or more potassium. I mean, if your BP falls or you have a fast pulse not due to being hyper, often you need more sodium. For me, I just had to experiment with the potassium and see what happened. The RDA is 4500, so I wasn't too concerned trying 3500 a day seeing as I get barely none from my diet. I low-carb. You could try for a week and then restest when you are not vomiting.Kathleen> > > > >Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to explain. > > > > The adrenal group reopens today so it may be worth posting this in> > there as well as there are people there with more experience of these> > issues.> > > > http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/> > > > Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp. webs.com/> > > > > > Nick> > > > -- > > > > for

more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to > > > > www.thyroid- rt3.com> >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

> Kathleen,

> I have to ask another question as you seem to have been through lots of

this..

Unfortunately, lol!

> I now have more confidence to try more isocort...and so am now questioning

the correct t3 level. As I said the 100mcg was considered too high...One of the

reasons I accepted this from a Dr was because I had the symptom of numbish

fingers( maybe like blood sugar ,not sure though, maybe lack of oxygen)..My Dr

said it was from being hyper.( I did have a high t3 level as well.) Well, she

was right, after I went down to 75 mcg..the numbishness went away! But a few

weeks later, I had horrible hip pain from a simple kickboxing exercise class.

This pain dibilitated me for 5 months..the mri said tendonisis. Hypothyroid!

> So now Im taking 87. and hip is feeling much better already..but I am feeling

a touch of that needling sensation in my feet(not hands).

> Question; Does the hand/foot thing sound like a hyper symptom..or adrenal?

I'm so sorry, I really don't know about the needling sensation, but I think

Kitty wrote you it sounded like aldosterone problem and I do think you've had

issues of late with electrolytes.

The hip pain could be adrenal, too, hate to say. For me, pain (mostly my neck

and back) is either hypo or adrenal or both. Maybe when you lowered the t3, it

eased up the adrenal stress? I've not heard of hyperT causing pain, but I've not

looked into it, either.

When I first went hypo, I had terrible pain and had no clue what was going on.

(Doctor said arthritis, GRRHH.) It went away when I went on thryoid meds. (So it

was arithritis, hey doc?) Then when I went too high on thyroid meds without

adrenal support, I got the WORST jaw pain and could barely turn my neck. So for

me, it's both.

Truly, I think I am the worst scardy cat about HC and I am SO grateful I

listened to Val and went up. I am much better now. And you are not on a high

dose at all. You could easily go back down to where you are if you didn't feel

right for some reason.

The reason I got so scared is that I got onto way too much HC due to one stupid

doc and then I had EBV and didn't know it, so I kept having to take more and

more HC just to tolerate my t3. I didn't know what was going on and I was very

scared. But that's a different story. ;-)

Kathleen

[Guest guest]

Yes, low pulse but low sodium could just be from hypo.

I would be dead by now, or near it, if I listened to the various docs I've been

to!

I am pretty sure Isocort is closer to 1.5. The reason I know is that I get the

same effect from 2 pellets OR 2.5 HC. But 1 pellet does NOT give me the effect

of 2.5 HC. I used to get anxious every night a few years back and either 2

pellets HC or 2.5 HC would do the trick. So the Isocort is definitely not 2.5

per pellet.

I know Kitty wrote you about dehyrated and you took the salt test without

fasting.

:-0

Kathleen

> > >

> > > >Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic

hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to

explain.

> > >

> > > The adrenal group reopens today so it may be worth posting this in

> > > there as well as there are people there with more experience of these

> > > issues.

> > >

> > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > >

> > > Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/

> > >

> > >

> > > Nick

> > >

> > > --

> > >

> > > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

> > >

> > > www.thyroid-rt3.com

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Thank you...your right, Im having 3 Dr consults within a week. PC, ND and a Kidney specialist. Im going to tell my PC that I dont need a kidney specialist, heart specialist, ortopedic docor, ER visits, gyno ultrasounds, etc...Its all one problem.

I mean, Its been 8 years of hell. I don't think my adrenals will ever heal, due to the unrecognized problem and almost death exhaution and sickness. But at least I can feel better. Thank you, leisa

Subject: Re: fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptensionTo: RT3_T3 Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 5:46 PM

> Kathleen,> I have to ask another question as you seem to have been through lots of this..Unfortunately, lol!> I now have more confidence to try more isocort...and so am now questioning the correct t3 level. As I said the 100mcg was considered too high...One of the reasons I accepted this from a Dr was because I had the symptom of numbish fingers( maybe like blood sugar ,not sure though, maybe lack of oxygen)..My Dr said it was from being hyper.( I did have a high t3 level as well.) Well, she was right, after I went down to 75 mcg..the numbishness went away! But a few weeks later, I had horrible hip pain from a simple kickboxing exercise class. This pain dibilitated me for 5 months..the mri said tendonisis. Hypothyroid!> So now Im taking 87. and hip is feeling much better already..but I am feeling a touch of that needling sensation in my feet(not hands). > Question;

Does the hand/foot thing sound like a hyper symptom..or adrenal?I'm so sorry, I really don't know about the needling sensation, but I think Kitty wrote you it sounded like aldosterone problem and I do think you've had issues of late with electrolytes.The hip pain could be adrenal, too, hate to say. For me, pain (mostly my neck and back) is either hypo or adrenal or both. Maybe when you lowered the t3, it eased up the adrenal stress? I've not heard of hyperT causing pain, but I've not looked into it, either.When I first went hypo, I had terrible pain and had no clue what was going on. (Doctor said arthritis, GRRHH.) It went away when I went on thryoid meds. (So it was arithritis, hey doc?) Then when I went too high on thyroid meds without adrenal support, I got the WORST jaw pain and could barely turn my neck. So for me, it's both.Truly, I think I am the worst scardy cat about HC and I am SO grateful I listened to Val and

went up. I am much better now. And you are not on a high dose at all. You could easily go back down to where you are if you didn't feel right for some reason.The reason I got so scared is that I got onto way too much HC due to one stupid doc and then I had EBV and didn't know it, so I kept having to take more and more HC just to tolerate my t3. I didn't know what was going on and I was very scared. But that's a different story. ;-)Kathleen------------------------------------We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

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Hi ,

Its Rhonda. I noticed you are still on the licorice. I am taking the Fatigued to Fantatic as it has some licorice in it. I don't have the peeing problem. I have just the opposite. I can go about 8 hours without peeing.

I was the one who had an Aldosterone of 2. The sodium was low and potassium a high.

Any idea why that would happen? I am new to this Aldoserone stuff. Thought you might know.

Thanks,

Rhonda

fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptension> > > > > > > > Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to explain. > > one bloodwork said my sodium was too high 147...and then a week later in the ER it was 139. Very confused as if sodium even helps it. Maybe its potassium that I should be focusing on...or perhaps more isocort, although I take 14 a day. Unfortunantly coffee helps it in the morning and wine helps it a bit at night.> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Its Rhonda. I noticed you are still on the licorice. I am taking the Fatigued to Fantatic as it has some licorice in it. I don't have the peeing problem. I have just the opposite. I can go about 8 hours without peeing.

I was the one who had an Aldosterone of 2. The sodium was low and potassium a high.

Any idea why that would happen? I am new to this Aldoserone stuff. Thought you might know.

Thanks,

Rhonda

fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptension> > > > > > > > Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to explain. > > one bloodwork said my sodium was too high 147...and then a week later in the ER it was 139. Very confused as if sodium even helps it. Maybe its potassium that I should be focusing on...or perhaps more isocort, although I take 14 a day. Unfortunantly coffee helps it in the morning and wine helps it a bit at night.> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Its Rhonda. I noticed you are still on the licorice. I am taking the Fatigued to Fantatic as it has some licorice in it. I don't have the peeing problem. I have just the opposite. I can go about 8 hours without peeing.

I was the one who had an Aldosterone of 2. The sodium was low and potassium a high.

Any idea why that would happen? I am new to this Aldoserone stuff. Thought you might know.

Thanks,

Rhonda

fainty ..cant stand othostatic hyoptension> > > > > > > > Does extra isocort help the horrible dizzy faint feeling of orthostatic hypotension? I think this is the feeling of no oxygen that Ive been trying to explain. > > one bloodwork said my sodium was too high 147...and then a week later in the ER it was 139. Very confused as if sodium even helps it. Maybe its potassium that I should be focusing on...or perhaps more isocort, although I take 14 a day. Unfortunantly coffee helps it in the morning and wine helps it a bit at night.> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

>

>Any idea why that would happen? I am new to this Aldoserone stuff. Thought

you might know.

There are more people experienced in Aldosterone on the adrenals group

than here

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/

Nick

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[Guest guest]

>

>Any idea why that would happen? I am new to this Aldoserone stuff. Thought

you might know.

There are more people experienced in Aldosterone on the adrenals group

than here

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

>

>Any idea why that would happen? I am new to this Aldoserone stuff. Thought

you might know.

There are more people experienced in Aldosterone on the adrenals group

than here

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/

Nick

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for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com