Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 I've suspected this as part of the picture for me, as I am a lyme patient. I'd be very interested how you came to decide it was connected to RT3. Dr. Holtorf does mention infections as a cause of RT3. Borrelia, the main lyme bacteria, dislikes warmth. It has some truly amazing capacities to shift the body environment and immune system, and many lyme patients develop thyroid issues (that may resolve after lyme treatment. So my thought is that it may trigger RT3 as a way to lower body temperature and metabolism. Sherry > > I have posted here in the past trying to find out the missing puzzle piece for High RT3 and the inability to tolerate straight T3. Turns out it is Lyme. I think this is important to note. Perhaps Nick could even put it on his website as another cause. Long story but previous doctor never informed us the results of the Lyme test 1.5 years ago. After calling about many things and no response from him went to another doctor. Paperwork fell through the cracks. > > Treated the symptoms successfully a year ago but symptoms returned (insomnia, depression, night sweats) > > Just wanted others to know and beware. PLUS, ALWAYS get the labs to mail you a copy. > > Lynn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 I've suspected this as part of the picture for me, as I am a lyme patient. I'd be very interested how you came to decide it was connected to RT3. Dr. Holtorf does mention infections as a cause of RT3. Borrelia, the main lyme bacteria, dislikes warmth. It has some truly amazing capacities to shift the body environment and immune system, and many lyme patients develop thyroid issues (that may resolve after lyme treatment. So my thought is that it may trigger RT3 as a way to lower body temperature and metabolism. Sherry > > I have posted here in the past trying to find out the missing puzzle piece for High RT3 and the inability to tolerate straight T3. Turns out it is Lyme. I think this is important to note. Perhaps Nick could even put it on his website as another cause. Long story but previous doctor never informed us the results of the Lyme test 1.5 years ago. After calling about many things and no response from him went to another doctor. Paperwork fell through the cracks. > > Treated the symptoms successfully a year ago but symptoms returned (insomnia, depression, night sweats) > > Just wanted others to know and beware. PLUS, ALWAYS get the labs to mail you a copy. > > Lynn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 I've suspected this as part of the picture for me, as I am a lyme patient. I'd be very interested how you came to decide it was connected to RT3. Dr. Holtorf does mention infections as a cause of RT3. Borrelia, the main lyme bacteria, dislikes warmth. It has some truly amazing capacities to shift the body environment and immune system, and many lyme patients develop thyroid issues (that may resolve after lyme treatment. So my thought is that it may trigger RT3 as a way to lower body temperature and metabolism. Sherry > > I have posted here in the past trying to find out the missing puzzle piece for High RT3 and the inability to tolerate straight T3. Turns out it is Lyme. I think this is important to note. Perhaps Nick could even put it on his website as another cause. Long story but previous doctor never informed us the results of the Lyme test 1.5 years ago. After calling about many things and no response from him went to another doctor. Paperwork fell through the cracks. > > Treated the symptoms successfully a year ago but symptoms returned (insomnia, depression, night sweats) > > Just wanted others to know and beware. PLUS, ALWAYS get the labs to mail you a copy. > > Lynn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 > >Just wanted others to know and beware. PLUS, ALWAYS get the labs to mail you a copy. Thanks for the heads up Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 > >Just wanted others to know and beware. PLUS, ALWAYS get the labs to mail you a copy. Thanks for the heads up Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 I appreciate your theory about the temps. I am now educating myself about Lyme and it is overwhelming in info. Also epidemic. I would recommend people do a Western Blot test to see if they've been exposed. You never know. Lyme attacks the adrenals and thyroid also causing foot pain, joint aches, insomnia, depression and a myriad of other symptoms. In hindsight we saw that the high RT3 was an indication of Lyme. That is why I'm also recommending that Nick add this to the list of reasons why one might have RT3. It might help others discover the source of their illness. In the Burrascano protocol for Lyme treatment, he discusses how Lyme attacks the HPA axis and the need to test for Free t3, free t4 and RT3. recommending T3 therapy and adrenal help (and other hormones) Noting that Lyme patients won't feel better until they do this. He also notes that it's hard to find doctors to acknowledge this.(How smart is that?!) I know this forum is for RT3 and don't want to dominate the discussion with Lyme but I do think it's an important factor. I used to call Val every week trying to work on this, looking at iron, cortisol, whatever to find the cause of the RT3 and am grateful to now know. Best wishes Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 I appreciate your theory about the temps. I am now educating myself about Lyme and it is overwhelming in info. Also epidemic. I would recommend people do a Western Blot test to see if they've been exposed. You never know. Lyme attacks the adrenals and thyroid also causing foot pain, joint aches, insomnia, depression and a myriad of other symptoms. In hindsight we saw that the high RT3 was an indication of Lyme. That is why I'm also recommending that Nick add this to the list of reasons why one might have RT3. It might help others discover the source of their illness. In the Burrascano protocol for Lyme treatment, he discusses how Lyme attacks the HPA axis and the need to test for Free t3, free t4 and RT3. recommending T3 therapy and adrenal help (and other hormones) Noting that Lyme patients won't feel better until they do this. He also notes that it's hard to find doctors to acknowledge this.(How smart is that?!) I know this forum is for RT3 and don't want to dominate the discussion with Lyme but I do think it's an important factor. I used to call Val every week trying to work on this, looking at iron, cortisol, whatever to find the cause of the RT3 and am grateful to now know. Best wishes Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 I appreciate your theory about the temps. I am now educating myself about Lyme and it is overwhelming in info. Also epidemic. I would recommend people do a Western Blot test to see if they've been exposed. You never know. Lyme attacks the adrenals and thyroid also causing foot pain, joint aches, insomnia, depression and a myriad of other symptoms. In hindsight we saw that the high RT3 was an indication of Lyme. That is why I'm also recommending that Nick add this to the list of reasons why one might have RT3. It might help others discover the source of their illness. In the Burrascano protocol for Lyme treatment, he discusses how Lyme attacks the HPA axis and the need to test for Free t3, free t4 and RT3. recommending T3 therapy and adrenal help (and other hormones) Noting that Lyme patients won't feel better until they do this. He also notes that it's hard to find doctors to acknowledge this.(How smart is that?!) I know this forum is for RT3 and don't want to dominate the discussion with Lyme but I do think it's an important factor. I used to call Val every week trying to work on this, looking at iron, cortisol, whatever to find the cause of the RT3 and am grateful to now know. Best wishes Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Yes, thanks so much! I haven't read Dr. Burrascano for awhile and when I did, I knew nothing about RT3. I'm definitely going to go re-read that and note any pertinent info. Sherry > > > > > > > I appreciate your theory about the temps. I am now educating myself about Lyme and it is overwhelming in info. Also epidemic. I would > recommend people do a Western Blot test to see if they've been exposed. You never know. Lyme attacks the adrenals and thyroid also causing foot pain, joint aches, insomnia, depression and a myriad of other symptoms. > > In hindsight we saw that the high RT3 was an indication of Lyme. > That is why I'm also recommending that Nick add this to the list of reasons why one might have RT3. It might help others discover the source of their illness. > > In the Burrascano protocol for Lyme treatment, he discusses how Lyme attacks the HPA axis and the need to test for Free t3, free t4 and RT3. > recommending T3 therapy and adrenal help (and other hormones) Noting that Lyme patients won't feel better until they do this. He also notes that it's hard to find doctors to acknowledge this.(How smart is that?!) > > I know this forum is for RT3 and don't want to dominate the discussion with Lyme but I do think it's an important factor. > I used to call Val every week trying to work on this, looking at iron, cortisol, whatever to find the cause of the RT3 and am grateful to now know. > > Best wishes > Lynn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 I just searched the last two versions of Dr. Burrascano's guidelines, and he does not mention RT3 or the need to test it. He does mention the inflammatory cascade process in lyme that can block hormone receptors. Sherry > > I have posted here in the past trying to find out the missing puzzle piece for High RT3 and the inability to tolerate straight T3. Turns out it is Lyme. I think this is important to note. Perhaps Nick could even put it on his website as another cause. Long story but previous doctor never informed us the results of the Lyme test 1.5 years ago. After calling about many things and no response from him went to another doctor. Paperwork fell through the cracks. > > Treated the symptoms successfully a year ago but symptoms returned (insomnia, depression, night sweats) > > Just wanted others to know and beware. PLUS, ALWAYS get the labs to mail you a copy. > > Lynn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 I just searched the last two versions of Dr. Burrascano's guidelines, and he does not mention RT3 or the need to test it. He does mention the inflammatory cascade process in lyme that can block hormone receptors. Sherry > > I have posted here in the past trying to find out the missing puzzle piece for High RT3 and the inability to tolerate straight T3. Turns out it is Lyme. I think this is important to note. Perhaps Nick could even put it on his website as another cause. Long story but previous doctor never informed us the results of the Lyme test 1.5 years ago. After calling about many things and no response from him went to another doctor. Paperwork fell through the cracks. > > Treated the symptoms successfully a year ago but symptoms returned (insomnia, depression, night sweats) > > Just wanted others to know and beware. PLUS, ALWAYS get the labs to mail you a copy. > > Lynn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 I just searched the last two versions of Dr. Burrascano's guidelines, and he does not mention RT3 or the need to test it. He does mention the inflammatory cascade process in lyme that can block hormone receptors. Sherry > > I have posted here in the past trying to find out the missing puzzle piece for High RT3 and the inability to tolerate straight T3. Turns out it is Lyme. I think this is important to note. Perhaps Nick could even put it on his website as another cause. Long story but previous doctor never informed us the results of the Lyme test 1.5 years ago. After calling about many things and no response from him went to another doctor. Paperwork fell through the cracks. > > Treated the symptoms successfully a year ago but symptoms returned (insomnia, depression, night sweats) > > Just wanted others to know and beware. PLUS, ALWAYS get the labs to mail you a copy. > > Lynn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 You are right. I could not find him mention RT3 I must have extrapolated the info. I am new to this research in Lyme and overwhelmed by it : Burranscano <<<<The long term solution involves restoring proper hormone levels and treating the Lyme to address this and the autonomic dysfunction. >>>> ..<<< In addition to measuring free T3 and T4 levels, check basal A.M. body temperatures. If hypothyroidism is found, you may need to treat with both T3 and T4 preparations until blood levels of both are normalized. To ensure sustained levels, when T3 is prescribed, have it compounded in a time-release form.>>> Dr. Klinghardt does specifically mention Rt3 << " When giving Lyme patients T4, this generally increases rT3 which defeats the purpose. It is better to give SRT3 (sustained release T3) and not T4 in most cases. " >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 You are right. I could not find him mention RT3 I must have extrapolated the info. I am new to this research in Lyme and overwhelmed by it : Burranscano <<<<The long term solution involves restoring proper hormone levels and treating the Lyme to address this and the autonomic dysfunction. >>>> ..<<< In addition to measuring free T3 and T4 levels, check basal A.M. body temperatures. If hypothyroidism is found, you may need to treat with both T3 and T4 preparations until blood levels of both are normalized. To ensure sustained levels, when T3 is prescribed, have it compounded in a time-release form.>>> Dr. Klinghardt does specifically mention Rt3 << " When giving Lyme patients T4, this generally increases rT3 which defeats the purpose. It is better to give SRT3 (sustained release T3) and not T4 in most cases. " >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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