Re: New here, where do i start?

[Guest guest]

Welcome.

I really think you should start with the saliva test from CanaryClub. It is

only $141 and you get thyroid and sex hormones in there too. You want to

know where you are before supplementing with cortisol. Your symptoms do

sound like adrenal and can exasperate PTSD which is common with abusive

situations.

www.canaryclub.org

Select " Diagnos Tech " saliva tests. Once you get the test results (they mail

to you) you can post the results and we can help you with suggestions for

self treatment.

Sorry to hear about your bad situation but glad you got out. I was in an

abusive work situation for many years and I know that was the final nail in

my coffin as far as my health. If you need belongings to start over, try

www.freecycle.org in your area. Make sure to read the rules but I have given

away lots of stuff to people who are in similar situations as yours, and

have also gotten things that I needed. It is a really great group. There are

other similar ones too if you Google. Also check out your abused shelters in

your area. Many will provide basic things like soaps, cleaning supplies,

food, etc. or can direct you where you can get them. They are federally and

state funded, at least partially, so don't be afraid to utilize them since

you likely paid into them with your tax dollars in the past.

Cheri

New here, where do i start?

I am certain i have adrenal fatigue and wonder where should i start. I

had my T4 and TSH levels tested and they both were in the normal range.

I left an abusive partner and fled with 5 children and no belongings

and have been through a lot. Now i am experiencing debilitating anxiety

attacks (happen randomly) fatigue, night waking, sugar cravings, can

not lose weight, loss of concentration, poor memory, brain fog. I don't

have the money to seek naturopathic help but i am considering the

saliva test. So where should i start?

.

[Guest guest]

Welcome.

I really think you should start with the saliva test from CanaryClub. It is

only $141 and you get thyroid and sex hormones in there too. You want to

know where you are before supplementing with cortisol. Your symptoms do

sound like adrenal and can exasperate PTSD which is common with abusive

situations.

www.canaryclub.org

Select " Diagnos Tech " saliva tests. Once you get the test results (they mail

to you) you can post the results and we can help you with suggestions for

self treatment.

Sorry to hear about your bad situation but glad you got out. I was in an

abusive work situation for many years and I know that was the final nail in

my coffin as far as my health. If you need belongings to start over, try

www.freecycle.org in your area. Make sure to read the rules but I have given

away lots of stuff to people who are in similar situations as yours, and

have also gotten things that I needed. It is a really great group. There are

other similar ones too if you Google. Also check out your abused shelters in

your area. Many will provide basic things like soaps, cleaning supplies,

food, etc. or can direct you where you can get them. They are federally and

state funded, at least partially, so don't be afraid to utilize them since

you likely paid into them with your tax dollars in the past.

Cheri

New here, where do i start?

I am certain i have adrenal fatigue and wonder where should i start. I

had my T4 and TSH levels tested and they both were in the normal range.

I left an abusive partner and fled with 5 children and no belongings

and have been through a lot. Now i am experiencing debilitating anxiety

attacks (happen randomly) fatigue, night waking, sugar cravings, can

not lose weight, loss of concentration, poor memory, brain fog. I don't

have the money to seek naturopathic help but i am considering the

saliva test. So where should i start?

.

[Guest guest]

Welcome.

I really think you should start with the saliva test from CanaryClub. It is

only $141 and you get thyroid and sex hormones in there too. You want to

know where you are before supplementing with cortisol. Your symptoms do

sound like adrenal and can exasperate PTSD which is common with abusive

situations.

www.canaryclub.org

Select " Diagnos Tech " saliva tests. Once you get the test results (they mail

to you) you can post the results and we can help you with suggestions for

self treatment.

Sorry to hear about your bad situation but glad you got out. I was in an

abusive work situation for many years and I know that was the final nail in

my coffin as far as my health. If you need belongings to start over, try

www.freecycle.org in your area. Make sure to read the rules but I have given

away lots of stuff to people who are in similar situations as yours, and

have also gotten things that I needed. It is a really great group. There are

other similar ones too if you Google. Also check out your abused shelters in

your area. Many will provide basic things like soaps, cleaning supplies,

food, etc. or can direct you where you can get them. They are federally and

state funded, at least partially, so don't be afraid to utilize them since

you likely paid into them with your tax dollars in the past.

Cheri

New here, where do i start?

I am certain i have adrenal fatigue and wonder where should i start. I

had my T4 and TSH levels tested and they both were in the normal range.

I left an abusive partner and fled with 5 children and no belongings

and have been through a lot. Now i am experiencing debilitating anxiety

attacks (happen randomly) fatigue, night waking, sugar cravings, can

not lose weight, loss of concentration, poor memory, brain fog. I don't

have the money to seek naturopathic help but i am considering the

saliva test. So where should i start?

.

[Guest guest]

If you go to the goup webpage you can look through the file sections there. I

am pretty sure there is information there on how to " self " test and also there

should be a link to some websites that have a list of adrenal failure symptoms.

Also in the files you should find links to Diagnostics and ZRT labs where you

can order saliva test. You really do need to have the Saliva testing done.

Sometimes people think they have low cortisol when in fact they are high and

vice versa. You need to be sure where you are before you start.

Also try taking you temps 3 times a day. First test is 3 hours after you get

up in the am, 2 nd test 3 hours later and the 3 test 3 hours after that. Try

to be consistant with the timing. You will need to keep track of you temps and

then average your temp for 3 days in a row. They should not vary over .2.

I think that is right. Again go to the home page for the group and search

through all the files. Lots of good info there.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

K

New here, where do i start?

I am certain i have adrenal fatigue and wonder where should i start. I

had my T4 and TSH levels tested and they both were in the normal range.

I left an abusive partner and fled with 5 children and no belongings

and have been through a lot. Now i am experiencing debilitating anxiety

attacks (happen randomly) fatigue, night waking, sugar cravings, can

not lose weight, loss of concentration, poor memory, brain fog. I don't

have the money to seek naturopathic help but i am considering the

saliva test. So where should i start?

[Guest guest]

Wow, I know there are others here who will be better able to help you

with the adrenal issues and your next steps with that (get saliva

tests from Canary club) But I would like to say, be so proud of

yourself! What a tremendously brave and difficult thing you have done!

I wish you every success and will keep you in my thoughts.

Best wishes for the brighter future you have already embarked upon,

English

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> I left an abusive partner and fled with 5 children and no belongings

> and have been through a lot.

[Guest guest]

Start with a saliva test for sure, a T3 test at least. RT3 (reverse

T3) and antibody tests would be useful too. We need to know the

numbers for TSH and T4, and you should have at least T3 and RT3

tested as well, and antibody tests for autoimmune hypothyroidism (TPO

antibody and anti-thyroid antibody). Even if all the thyroid

hormones are normal, without cortisol, cells can't use them. The

ranges are crap Normal TSH is somewhere between 1 and 2. Mine

was at 5.9 and my endo said it was " borderline " .

A saliva test really needs to be done to determine the degree of

adrenal insufficiency, and how much cortisol support is needed. This

should be done before you start any cortisol support AT ALL. I

started support with IsoCort, without a saliva test, and now I'm

" paying for it " - in the form of a wean my body doesn't really like.

It seems like AF feels a LOT worse if you've been on some support

before than if you haven't. With your stress reactions I'd expect

the low-cortisol/adrenaline reactions to a cortisol wean to be worse.

DON'T see an endo if you can avoid it - they are expensive and

arrogant unless you find a good one (rare and hard to find). You'll

probably get better treatment with any other kind of doctor. But

very few doctors know how to deal with adrenal problems. If you are

autoimmune, selenium supplementation can help reduce autoantibodies,

and might help with other things as well.

I'm not sure if how naturopaths approach thyroid/adrenal issues. Val?

All your symptoms could be related to thyroid and/or adrenal. The

anxiety is probably some degree of PTSD, but AF can probably make

that worse. I'm have no real experience with severe anxiety or PTSD,

but I know that beta-blockers are in trials for " cutting off " at

least some kinds of PTSD (by breaking the and over-strong adrenaline

link to memory formation in the brain, they think). I'm not sure how

beta-blockers interact with thyroid/adrenal problems - I think there

are some issues here. Keep in mind that this treatment is

experimental, and I'm not sure how you could find someone who would

know how use it for such " off-label " use.

Jim

> I am certain i have adrenal fatigue and wonder where should i start. I

> had my T4 and TSH levels tested and they both were in the normal

> range.

> I left an abusive partner and fled with 5 children and no belongings

> and have been through a lot. Now i am experiencing debilitating

> anxiety

> attacks (happen randomly) fatigue, night waking, sugar cravings, can

> not lose weight, loss of concentration, poor memory, brain fog. I

> don't

> have the money to seek naturopathic help but i am considering the

> saliva test. So where should i start?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info. There is a lady here in town who tests through

diagnostics so i will contact her this week. My TSH was 1.769 and T4

was 1.01 i asked for a complete THyroid with T3 included but

apparently they didn't do that. The last time, a few years ago, that

i did have the T3 tested it was below normal. I was given a beta

blocker by a Dr but have not taken it. It is a new attempt to treat

PTSD.I did just start taking Mag calm and it has been helping my

irritability and anger issues. I will update when i get my saliva

test!

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> I am certain i have adrenal fatigue and wonder where should i

start. I

> had my T4 and TSH levels tested and they both were in the normal

range.

> I left an abusive partner and fled with 5 children and no

belongings

> and have been through a lot. Now i am experiencing debilitating

anxiety

> attacks (happen randomly) fatigue, night waking, sugar cravings,

can

> not lose weight, loss of concentration, poor memory, brain fog. I

don't

> have the money to seek naturopathic help but i am considering the

> saliva test. So where should i start?

>