Re: stephanie, please help

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi please help me... I can't make out what the results of the test

> mean... I got the hair test done from GDX.

> I'm confused about the bismuth results. Are bismuth and mercury

> toxicity similar?

> heres a scan of the results... i don't know how to do the color and

> pct conversion. i looked over some old posts with results and got

> really confused. Thanks.

>

> http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g84/callmeinvincible/test.jpg

Thanks for the link to the jpg. Very helpful.

I think you meet counting rule 1 with only 3 elements above the

midline. This indicates deranged mineral transport and a high

probability of mercury toxicity. The all low presentaton usually

indicates absorption problems. I suggest looking into betaine hcl

to improve this. If you tolerate cider vinegar, this is another

way to improve stomach acid levels (take before meals).

The bismuth can be real or it can be a false elevation. It can also

be due to contamination. If it is real, DMSA or DMPS will chelate

it.

With an undetectable level of lithium, a supplement of 5 mg lithium

orotate or aspartate is recommended.

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[Guest guest]

Ty. I seem to show signs of bismuth toxicity I think. I used to take

stomach medicine for diarrhea every other day or so. Now I'm suffering

from constipation problems and dark stool color, which I read was

common with Pepto-Bismol use. Sorry for tmi and thanks again for your

analysis and suggestions.

> >

> > Hi please help me... I can't make out what the results of the test

> > mean... I got the hair test done from GDX.

> > I'm confused about the bismuth results. Are bismuth and mercury

> > toxicity similar?

> > heres a scan of the results... i don't know how to do the color and

> > pct conversion. i looked over some old posts with results and got

> > really confused. Thanks.

> >

> > http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g84/callmeinvincible/test.jpg

>

>

> Thanks for the link to the jpg. Very helpful.

>

> I think you meet counting rule 1 with only 3 elements above the

> midline. This indicates deranged mineral transport and a high

> probability of mercury toxicity. The all low presentaton usually

> indicates absorption problems. I suggest looking into betaine hcl

> to improve this. If you tolerate cider vinegar, this is another

> way to improve stomach acid levels (take before meals).

>

> The bismuth can be real or it can be a false elevation. It can also

> be due to contamination. If it is real, DMSA or DMPS will chelate

> it.

>

> With an undetectable level of lithium, a supplement of 5 mg lithium

> orotate or aspartate is recommended.

>

> --

>

[Guest guest]

I think there are 4 elements above midway (Phosphorous, Selenium,

Vanadium, Potassium) no? (correct me if I'm wrong)

This test is presumably from GSDL? In any case there are only 17

essential elements, so using the modified counting rules (from HTI,

p268) we need 3 or less elements above midway to satisfy rule 1. So

this test doesn't appear to meet the counting rules. However it is

highly suspicious and I think Steph is right - you may well have

deranged mineral transport indicative of mercury poisoning.

You might want to do a DDI test and post back.

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> >

> > Hi please help me... I can't make out what the results of the test

> > mean... I got the hair test done from GDX.

> > I'm confused about the bismuth results. Are bismuth and mercury

> > toxicity similar?

> > heres a scan of the results... i don't know how to do the color and

> > pct conversion. i looked over some old posts with results and got

> > really confused. Thanks.

> >

> > http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g84/callmeinvincible/test.jpg

>

>

> Thanks for the link to the jpg. Very helpful.

>

> I think you meet counting rule 1 with only 3 elements above the

> midline. This indicates deranged mineral transport and a high

> probability of mercury toxicity. The all low presentaton usually

> indicates absorption problems. I suggest looking into betaine hcl

> to improve this. If you tolerate cider vinegar, this is another

> way to improve stomach acid levels (take before meals).

>

> The bismuth can be real or it can be a false elevation. It can also

> be due to contamination. If it is real, DMSA or DMPS will chelate

> it.

>

> With an undetectable level of lithium, a supplement of 5 mg lithium

> orotate or aspartate is recommended.

>

> --

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I think there are 4 elements above midway (Phosphorous, Selenium,

> Vanadium, Potassium) no? (correct me if I'm wrong)

My eyes say the potassium is in the middle, but I didn't use a

ruler. (And my eyes are not perfect.)

Also lithium is undetectable, and the mercury is high enough to

make me wonder where it's coming from.

These signs of mercury, along with the elevated bismuth, and

symptoms, are good reasons to try chelation.

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> This test is presumably from GSDL? In any case there are only 17

> essential elements, so using the modified counting rules (from HTI,

> p268) we need 3 or less elements above midway to satisfy rule 1. So

> this test doesn't appear to meet the counting rules. However it is

> highly suspicious and I think Steph is right - you may well have

> deranged mineral transport indicative of mercury poisoning.

>

> You might want to do a DDI test and post back.

>

> .

>

[Guest guest]

You may have both bismuth and mercury toxicity. Either way,

I suggest you remove amalgams if you haven't yet, stop eating

fish if you are doing that, and then try some chelation. Use

DMSA or DMPS and add ALA after a few months. See the files and

Andy's book for more information on how to chelate safely and

effectively.

Of course, stop the stomach medicine if it contains bismuth or

other toxins. I suggest you check the ingredients to see what

was in there. Bismuth can cause neurological problems and

various other symptoms which overlap with mercury toxicity

symptoms, so it may be hard to distinguish.

Andy recommends alkalinization of the urine to pH 7 for the

first few months when you are chelating bismuth.

There are many other things you can try for diarrhea and

constipation. If dysbiosis is the source of the problems,

treating pathogens with diet, probiotics, etc will help.

Otherwise, psyllium, triphala, and various other measures

can be helpful.

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> Ty. I seem to show signs of bismuth toxicity I think. I used to take

> stomach medicine for diarrhea every other day or so. Now I'm suffering

> from constipation problems and dark stool color, which I read was

> common with Pepto-Bismol use. Sorry for tmi and thanks again for your

> analysis and suggestions.

[Guest guest]

lol i took a rule and made markings from calcium to potassium. the

short line in the middle of the circle is where i count right? if so i

have 3 nutrients above the midway point. thanks again guys! i really

appreciate the help and i'm regaining hope that maybe my health can

come back.

on another note, can i do a parasite cleanse and what not while

chelating? i was thinking about ozone, diatomaceous earth and/or some

herbs. if not should i make sure my problems are not do to pathogens

first or should i chelate first?

> >

> > I think there are 4 elements above midway (Phosphorous, Selenium,

> > Vanadium, Potassium) no? (correct me if I'm wrong)

>

>

>

> My eyes say the potassium is in the middle, but I didn't use a

> ruler. (And my eyes are not perfect.)

>

> Also lithium is undetectable, and the mercury is high enough to

> make me wonder where it's coming from.

>

> These signs of mercury, along with the elevated bismuth, and

> symptoms, are good reasons to try chelation.

>

> --

>

>

> > This test is presumably from GSDL? In any case there are only 17

> > essential elements, so using the modified counting rules (from HTI,

> > p268) we need 3 or less elements above midway to satisfy rule 1. So

> > this test doesn't appear to meet the counting rules. However it is

> > highly suspicious and I think Steph is right - you may well have

> > deranged mineral transport indicative of mercury poisoning.

> >

> > You might want to do a DDI test and post back.

> >

> > .

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> lol i took a rule and made markings from calcium to potassium. the

> short line in the middle of the circle is where i count right?

Yep.

if so i

> have 3 nutrients above the midway point. thanks again guys! i really

> appreciate the help and i'm regaining hope that maybe my health can

> come back.

Good! Optimism is good for your body and mind.

> on another note, can i do a parasite cleanse and what not while

> chelating? i was thinking about ozone, diatomaceous earth and/or some

> herbs. if not should i make sure my problems are not do to pathogens

> first or should i chelate first?

There is no problem with treating for parasites if you have good

reason to believe this is a problem. From what I have read, it

seems best to test for pathogen sensitivity to various agents and

use something that will do a good job of clearing them.

I don't know much about ozone or diatomaceous earth. I suggest

careful investigation of these and of herbs to be sure these are

safe and effective treatments for your purposes.

Any treatments for parasites may cause additional stress and

chelating at the same time may be more than your body can handle.

You are the only one who can decide if the pathogen issue should

have temporary priority over chelating.

Since you are unsure whether mercury is a problem, you may want

to try some chelation first to help you determine one way or

another whether mercury is an issue.

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