Manganese etc - okay to take?

[Guest guest]

My hair analysis report (Great Plains Lab) shows Manganese in the low

red area. But the urine analysis report (not done at Great Plains Lab)

shows Manganese to be within range (range of 0.1 - 3, shows my level

at 0.8).

Should I be supplementing with Manganese? I should mention that I have

had progressive tinnitus problem over the last few years (it is a

constant high pitched sound that is audible throughout my waking

state, louder in the left ear). I read in Andy's book that low

Manganese can cause tinnitus too. But he also cautions use of

Manganese supplementation in mercury toxic persons. So I am not sure

what I need to do.

I must mention that according to the counting rules I do not have

mercury toxicity. I fall into the category of the 1% of the people

with all the toxic elements in the green area. Also I do not show up

with deranged mineral transport. But the fact that I fell ill with

Crohn's barely a year after the first amalgam placement, and that I

have had a total of 12 amalgams (!) placed in my mouth, leads me to

believe I do have mercury toxicity issues. Only my urine analysis

report shows mercury, lead and Indium to be in excess. It also shows

Molybdenum and zinc to be in excess (can I take these latter two

supplements anyways?).

[Guest guest]

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> My hair analysis report (Great Plains Lab) shows Manganese in the low

> red area. But the urine analysis report (not done at Great Plains Lab)

> shows Manganese to be within range (range of 0.1 - 3, shows my level

> at 0.8).

I am not sure if the urine analysis is useful since I don't think

it tells you anything about body inventory.

When you see low red manganese on the hair test and you have symptoms

that can go with manganese deficiency (AND you don't have symptoms

that go with toxicity), it is very reasonable to try some to see if

it helps. 5-10 mg seems sensible. I take some.

> Should I be supplementing with Manganese? I should mention that I have

> had progressive tinnitus problem over the last few years (it is a

> constant high pitched sound that is audible throughout my waking

> state, louder in the left ear). I read in Andy's book that low

> Manganese can cause tinnitus too. But he also cautions use of

> Manganese supplementation in mercury toxic persons. So I am not sure

> what I need to do.

I think if you notice any problems with manganese supplementation

you should stop. I also think that if the tinnitus does not

improve after a reasonable period of time (a month or so?) then

low manganese may not be the cause and there may be no point in

continuing to supplement. Another possibility, if it does not

resolve, is that you are not absorbing it, but you would probably

have other indications if that were so.

> I must mention that according to the counting rules I do not have

> mercury toxicity. I fall into the category of the 1% of the people

> with all the toxic elements in the green area. Also I do not show up

If the mercury is largely in your brain, the hair test will not

reflect it. Also, sometimes the counting rules are not met, but the

test appears abnormal (see p. 27-33 of HTI for some normal-looking

tests).

> with deranged mineral transport. But the fact that I fell ill with

> Crohn's barely a year after the first amalgam placement, and that I

> have had a total of 12 amalgams (!) placed in my mouth, leads me to

> believe I do have mercury toxicity issues. Only my urine analysis

> report shows mercury, lead and Indium to be in excess. It also shows

> Molybdenum and zinc to be in excess (can I take these latter two

> supplements anyways?).

If the urine test says you are excreting excess amounts of molybdenum

and zinc, it could be that your body is not able to use all of it or

it is more than you are able to absorb. Even so, if you are mercury

toxic, these are important minerals and you need to be sure you are

getting enough.

The excessive amounts of mercury and lead are not conclusive about

anything, but do make a person wonder where that amount of toxins

is coming from.

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[Guest guest]

While no one can tell you what to do, I too have tinnitus which is

also a symptom of mercury poisoning. Which I have, so I have not

taken any manganese yet.

Hair levels of this may not be an accurate reflection of body levels

when you have mercury. It can make it look low when it's not.

You had amalgams..you have a mercury problem, no matter what the

test says. Yes you can take the latter two supplements anyway,

mercury would cause you to be wasting them in your urine. You need

zinc and molybdenum. And just for the record..I didn't meet rules

either but had 14 amalgams for 20 years! I was close to rule one,

missed it by one. I had other markers though like no hair lithium!

High aluminum, silver and tin. Some people do not meet rules until

they begin chelation. My son didn't meet them until after 20 rounds

of dmsa/ala. But I knew he had an Hg problem because I carried him

with a mouth full of metal.

>

> My hair analysis report (Great Plains Lab) shows Manganese in the

low

> red area. But the urine analysis report (not done at Great Plains

Lab)

> shows Manganese to be within range (range of 0.1 - 3, shows my

level

> at 0.8).

>

> Should I be supplementing with Manganese? I should mention that I

have

> had progressive tinnitus problem over the last few years (it is a

> constant high pitched sound that