Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 NOTE: I know this is super long, but once i started writing. . . I'm really upset about this whole thing and would really, really appreciate any thoughts/info that anyone might have. Thanks!! Here's the background: After decades of bladder and, later, vulvar pain as well that waxed and waned (and didn't get attended to because of other more pressing health issues and because nothing i tried would help) i was finally motivated to make an appointment with the vulvar specialist, Kellogg-Spadt, in Philly last summer. I was involved with someone at the time -- my first sexual relationship in decades after years of serious ill-health which had dramatically improved enough to be able to think about such things. . . . We took it slowly, didn't have intercourse immediately, and after a few months were having great sex, albeit with some occasional mild initial penetration pain and post-sex irritation that were far outweighed by the bliss. This continued for about a year and a half, but in February 2005, that all changed: intercourse was suddenly far too painful to have and we stopped, switching to non-penetrative sexual activities. It was the threatened end of the relationship that finally got me to make the appointment, which, sadly, didn't stop the relationship from dissolving in July (for reasons not just having to do with the sex stuff, though i feel that it definitely was a factor) after almost four years. At my intial -- and, to date, only -- appointment in August, took one look at me and literally within seconds said, " I want to do a biopsy. " She wasn't positive, but she felt i might have Lichens Planus, which came as a shock, since from the little reading i had done on it and Lichens Schlerosis, i really didn't think they were possibilities. I shrieked, " No, i don't want one! " and we struck a deal: if, after three months of capsaicin treatment (what i really wanted to try and was really excited about doing) didn't improve things, then i would agree to the biopsy. I got my capsaicin Rx from her compounding pharmacist and waited for the follow-up appointment the next month, when she would do the initial application to double-check my reaction before i used it on my own. Then in September, before the date of the appointment, i completely freaked out one night when i realized that the lower portion of my inner labia appeared to be fusing. Flaps that i would have sworn had been there a short while ago just weren't anymore. . . . Under normal circumstances i would have been in a rush to get back to have her look at it, but things are never normal with me: i have very severe reactive hyperacusis (collapsed tolerance to sound/can't handle sounds that most people would consider fine) due to Lyme disease and had had a horrible set-back triggered by a too loud and long phone call earlier in the month. I hoped that i would improve enough to be able to make the trip, but when it came to crunch time, i was still in such ear/head agony that there was simply no way i could even contemplate leaving my apartment to go cross town, let alone making a two day, eight hour trip and all that would involve. I spoke (painfully) to on the phone and she said that, from my description, it did indeed sound as if i had one or perhaps both of the Lichens, but that i was really " between and rock and a hard place " because she absolutely required a biopsy before treatment. She told me to continue with the estradiol i had been using faithfully for over a year (sure didn't stop this from happening. . . ) and the Traumeel crushed into emu oil, which she claimed, though not as potent as the steroids, could quell the inflammation. And suggested that i reschedule for December (3 months later) and hope for the best in the meantime. The capsaicin, she said, was now totally out. Well, four months later, the fusion is still evident and is, from what i can tell, progressing. Two rescheduled follow-up appointments had to be re-rescheduled because of periods and/or a period which would have come immediately after the biopsy, which i didn't want to deal with during recovery. I now have yet another appointment coming up a week from tomorrow, but am facing a huge dilemma that i hope any of you who are still with me here can help with: In the last week or so i've come to the realization that i REALLY, REALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE A BIOPSY AND DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. This is not because i'm afraid of the pain that can be involverd with and immediately after the procedure; i actually have a high pain threshold and dealing with short-term pain isn't a big deal for me. (I once had a tooth drilled for a filling without anesthetic at my urging. My dentist thought i was nuts but did it.) My concern is what would happen AFTER the procedure -- and into the future. Because of the Lyme messing big-time with my nerves, i am now SUPER hyper-sensitive. herself, when she conducted the test that shows how quickly you can sense vibration at various points around the vulva, said, " You're not imagining it. You are INCREDIBLY hypersensitive! It's impressive!! " I already knew this. And the more i think about it, the more convinced i am that having a biopsy would be a terrible mistake. Here are some examples of why i think this: 1. Years ago i had a nerve conduction study done on my leg. The pain was so horrendous that i refused to have the second part of the study done and it took days, with a lot of erratic spasming, before the muscles and nerves calmed down. I was told that this was " highly unusual. " 2. I later had a muscle biopsy done on my upper thigh. Besides the fun of initially being cut into without any anesthetic (it didn't take effect as it should have when it should have), i didn't recover the way i was supposed to. I was told that most people go back to work the next day. I spent weeks with my quadracep going into sudden violent and painful spasm that would leave me unable to walk (This was when i was still mobile; now i'm unable to walk much at all, largely due to just this kind of hypersensitivity/muscle and nerve intolerance). Not to mention the fact that it literally took years for the scar to heal. And closer to vulvar home. . . 3. Sometime last year, in a kind of oh why not mood, i tried Dee's Q-tip swirl one night. What a terrible mistake that was! Almost instantly i experienced throbbing, burning, shooting nerve pain that intensified over the next hours. The following few days were absolute hell and it took a good month before the severe nerve pain, which included a bad bladder flare-up (with me, any irritation of the nerves in one area of the pelvis will most likely activate nerves in another, secondarily), subsided. And, just as i was trying to convince myself that i really needed to bite the bullet, think nice positive thoughts and just get the biopsy done so i know what's happening, this happened last week: 4. In what was my second round of boric acid caps at night for the c. Krusei infection that found, the oily capsule got waylaid and wedged in a nook and cranny, requiring me to dig a little to pull it out and get it realigned and properly inserted. Just that little bit of fumbling and pressure it took to extricate it set everything off yet again (the very same thing happened to me last year). I had to stop using the caps since i couldn't bear to touch the area at all, have had shooting pain, clitoral/vaginal pain and aching, and a lovely bladder/urethral flare-up that still hasn't calmed down after a week. 5. And the one time i accidentally nicked myself very slightly on my outer labia when trimming my pubic hair a few years ago, i went from no pain to severe days of sharp shooting pain and throbbing aching. So, the bottom line is that my body has very little tolerance for being bonked, let alone cut into and can take a LONG, LONG, LONG time to calm down when it does. This is the unfortunate result of decades of undiagnosed and untreated (until recently) neurological Lyme disease and is why i have acute sound and light sensitivity, as well as why i can't lift more than a matter of ounces, if my arms aren't supported, without horrendous pain and spasming. And when i really think about what get a biopsy in my labia would mean i, who usually doesn't freak out about medical procedures, am now freaking out big-time. I have contemplated faxing and asking her, given this history and my fears, if there is ANY WAY she would be willing to make an exception and forego the biopsy. I just don't think i can handle it on top of all the other chronic pain issues i have and the fact that, because i use a wheelchair and have limited standing ability, the potential devastating effect it could have on my functioning for who knows how long into the future. I realize that i may be catastrophizing here and that maybe that recovery from a biopsy would be far easier than i'm envisioning -- which is why i posted a few weeks ago soliciting people's experiences, but in my heart of hearts (and based on all my past experiences) i really don't think so. And the stories of biopsies that HAVEN'T gone well and my unique screwed up neurological responses have made me feel more and more strongly that i just can't go through with it. As a reality check, could anyone who's still reading this, tell me: 1. Has anyone experienced anywhere near the kind of way out-of-normal-range pain reactions to something like a Q-tip swirl that i've described? Has anyone here who has Lyme with neurological involvement had a biopsy? What was your experience? 2. Is there ANY difference at all in how LP and LS is approached as far as meds go??? 3. For those of you who have had negative biopsies for LP or LS, did your physician go ahead and treat you with steroids anyway, based on your clinical symptoms? 4. I'm going to make some phone calls, but. . . Does anyone know any other vulvar specialists in Philly or any other place in Pennsylvania (or DC, for that matter) who treats LP/LS without requiring a biopsy? I hate to have to postpone getting treatment even longer by having to switch to another doctor if will not budge, but if she doesn't, i'm afraid that's what i'll have to do. Any or all comments/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for letting me vent at such great length!! Hollis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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