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In a message dated 11/25/2004 8:17:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Wvyorkies@... writes:

> My Dr. is no help. I am on synthroid. He refuses to do anything else

> because the test show that my thyroid is in the normal range now

Have you told him you'd like to switch to armour?

cindi

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In a message dated 11/25/2004 8:17:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Wvyorkies@... writes:

> My Dr. is no help. I am on synthroid. He refuses to do anything else

> because the test show that my thyroid is in the normal range now

Have you told him you'd like to switch to armour?

cindi

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In a message dated 11/25/2004 8:17:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Wvyorkies@... writes:

> My Dr. is no help. I am on synthroid. He refuses to do anything else

> because the test show that my thyroid is in the normal range now

Have you told him you'd like to switch to armour?

cindi

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In a message dated 11/25/2004 1:37:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Wvyorkies@... writes:

> I was suppose to have a test for Adrenal Fatigue, but I heard that the

> blood test was not that accurate. I am looking for someone that does the

salvia

> test, are they better??

>

a blood test is not good for adrenal fatigue. The saliva test from ZRT labs

is good. but your symptoms are all hypo. do you have your lab results? if

not, call the office and have them mailed to you and post them here.

Cindi

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In a message dated 11/25/2004 1:37:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Wvyorkies@... writes:

> I was suppose to have a test for Adrenal Fatigue, but I heard that the

> blood test was not that accurate. I am looking for someone that does the

salvia

> test, are they better??

>

a blood test is not good for adrenal fatigue. The saliva test from ZRT labs

is good. but your symptoms are all hypo. do you have your lab results? if

not, call the office and have them mailed to you and post them here.

Cindi

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In a message dated 11/25/2004 1:37:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Wvyorkies@... writes:

> I was suppose to have a test for Adrenal Fatigue, but I heard that the

> blood test was not that accurate. I am looking for someone that does the

salvia

> test, are they better??

>

a blood test is not good for adrenal fatigue. The saliva test from ZRT labs

is good. but your symptoms are all hypo. do you have your lab results? if

not, call the office and have them mailed to you and post them here.

Cindi

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Zoloft, Prozac, Paxil, Celexa, Lexapro, and all the SSRIs are all vexors of

the thyroid hormones. Another type of antidepressant would be a better

choice than these. These are always reccommended by doctors now because

those are the ones that are doing the best sales for the pharmaceutical

companies (they're " hot " merchandise), so those are the ones that the

salesmen talk the doctors into treating with. Whatever is popular at the

moment, sort of like new fashionable clothing. Wellbutrin is a better

choice for a hypo person, if it's even tolerated at all, as so many hypo

people don't seem to be able to tolerate antidepressants, particularly those

with high blood pressure or other coronary issues. I've heard a few people

say that they've even had a not so good reaction to it. If a person has

suddenly developed problems with T4 to T3 conversion, when they had no

problem already, and they've been taking an SSRI, they needn't wonder why.

IMO the SSRIs are some of the most dangerous things to come out on the

market.

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>

> Mel, my son is on Armour and he is still taking his prozac (as well

> as geodon and clomipramine). When he feels better as a result of the

> thyroid treatment, we will evaluate whether he needs to continue

> taking the psychotropic drugs. His doctor does not see any conflict

> between the antidepressent and the armour, so I don't see why there

> would be a problem with the zoloft. In fact, you may need to

> continue it for awhile even after the armour arrives. There is no

> reason to suffer with depression if you have something that will help

> alleviate it.

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Have you ever hand delivered the proof of power of attorney to the nursing

home?

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> Holiday blahs.. Yes, I get them horribly. After just going through my half

century birthday with NO calls of even a card from any family member, and

now yesterday having an argument with the director of my grandmother's

nursing home when I tried opt reach her, I am having my usual holiday blahs.

I hate them as I have NO family to spend them with. Holidays are alot of

work for a groomer, I had an overload of dogs today and was so tired when I

got home I laid down for one of those now rare naps. Slept for 4 hours!

Nursing home said my grandmother was " in activities " and unavailable for a

phone call. I asked if she was spending holidays with my sister, well they

can;t tell me that. Even though they have a copy of my Power of Attorney,

which they say they don't have on record. Frustration is just a small thing,

and my fury with these people is getting larger. Guess I better go watch a

movie and pet my cats, and just be glad I am alive and semi well.

> I HATE holidays! LOL

> *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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Have you ever hand delivered the proof of power of attorney to the nursing

home?

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> Holiday blahs.. Yes, I get them horribly. After just going through my half

century birthday with NO calls of even a card from any family member, and

now yesterday having an argument with the director of my grandmother's

nursing home when I tried opt reach her, I am having my usual holiday blahs.

I hate them as I have NO family to spend them with. Holidays are alot of

work for a groomer, I had an overload of dogs today and was so tired when I

got home I laid down for one of those now rare naps. Slept for 4 hours!

Nursing home said my grandmother was " in activities " and unavailable for a

phone call. I asked if she was spending holidays with my sister, well they

can;t tell me that. Even though they have a copy of my Power of Attorney,

which they say they don't have on record. Frustration is just a small thing,

and my fury with these people is getting larger. Guess I better go watch a

movie and pet my cats, and just be glad I am alive and semi well.

> I HATE holidays! LOL

> *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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Have you ever hand delivered the proof of power of attorney to the nursing

home?

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>

> Holiday blahs.. Yes, I get them horribly. After just going through my half

century birthday with NO calls of even a card from any family member, and

now yesterday having an argument with the director of my grandmother's

nursing home when I tried opt reach her, I am having my usual holiday blahs.

I hate them as I have NO family to spend them with. Holidays are alot of

work for a groomer, I had an overload of dogs today and was so tired when I

got home I laid down for one of those now rare naps. Slept for 4 hours!

Nursing home said my grandmother was " in activities " and unavailable for a

phone call. I asked if she was spending holidays with my sister, well they

can;t tell me that. Even though they have a copy of my Power of Attorney,

which they say they don't have on record. Frustration is just a small thing,

and my fury with these people is getting larger. Guess I better go watch a

movie and pet my cats, and just be glad I am alive and semi well.

> I HATE holidays! LOL

> *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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No they are in NJ & I am in WV. An 8 hour drive with a car that won't make

it. I did send them a copy by registered mail, which SHOULD have been enough,

but they say now they never saw it...

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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No they are in NJ & I am in WV. An 8 hour drive with a car that won't make

it. I did send them a copy by registered mail, which SHOULD have been enough,

but they say now they never saw it...

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

---

Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

Version: 6.0.799 / Virus Database: 543 - Release Date: 11/20/2004

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Did you get the return reciept back showing who signed for it? If so

you could fax them a copy of that saying - well this person signed

for it so ask them.

Maybe find out the name of someone with power and send them directly

registered return reciept another copy.

Louise

-- In NaturalThyroidHormones , " T "

<artisticgroom@v...> wrote:

> No they are in NJ & I am in WV. An 8 hour drive with a car

that won't make it. I did send them a copy by registered mail, which

SHOULD have been enough, but they say now they never saw it...

> *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

> Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

>

>

>

>

> ---

> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> Version: 6.0.799 / Virus Database: 543 - Release Date: 11/20/2004

>

>

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Did you get the return reciept back showing who signed for it? If so

you could fax them a copy of that saying - well this person signed

for it so ask them.

Maybe find out the name of someone with power and send them directly

registered return reciept another copy.

Louise

-- In NaturalThyroidHormones , " T "

<artisticgroom@v...> wrote:

> No they are in NJ & I am in WV. An 8 hour drive with a car

that won't make it. I did send them a copy by registered mail, which

SHOULD have been enough, but they say now they never saw it...

> *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

> Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

>

>

>

>

> ---

> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> Version: 6.0.799 / Virus Database: 543 - Release Date: 11/20/2004

>

>

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Did you get the return reciept back showing who signed for it? If so

you could fax them a copy of that saying - well this person signed

for it so ask them.

Maybe find out the name of someone with power and send them directly

registered return reciept another copy.

Louise

-- In NaturalThyroidHormones , " T "

<artisticgroom@v...> wrote:

> No they are in NJ & I am in WV. An 8 hour drive with a car

that won't make it. I did send them a copy by registered mail, which

SHOULD have been enough, but they say now they never saw it...

> *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

> Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

>

>

>

>

> ---

> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> Version: 6.0.799 / Virus Database: 543 - Release Date: 11/20/2004

>

>

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>>Did you get the return reciept back showing who signed for it? If so

you could fax them a copy of that saying - well this person signed

for it so ask them.

Maybe find out the name of someone with power and send them directly

registered return receipt another copy. <<

Thanks for the suggestions, but I am afraid anything I send by either fax or

mail will be the same results. I still have to get through their desk staff to

even talk to her,and the one time I visited she was not even allowed out of the

building to walk me to my car due to things my sister (who is NOW working there)

has told them. They are doing illegal things in their treatment of ME, but

nothing I can do about it unless I can get up there in person, which I just

can't afford to do, so ???? I can't afford to pay an attorney up there to hand

deliver this paper, or I would do that, though they would probably say they have

no proof it is ME on the phone. If they want to be difficult to me, and it seems

they do, there is little I can do from a distance. They just tell me I have to

go through my sister. Well my sister will not even receive my phone calls. She

has refused to talk to me since right after she put her in this nursing home and

I suggested there might have been other alternatives, like assisted living IF

she had consulted ME about this. But then SHE wouldn;t have complete control

like she does and like she wants. She has managed to screw me out of anything my

Grandmother wanted me to have of her belongings and the only thing I got was her

cat which no one wanted. Not even any of her old photos of us growing up which I

would have loved to have SOME of. Sorry but this has been going on for a year

now and my hands are tied but it doesn;t make it any easier to deal with to know

there is nothing I can do.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

---

Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

Version: 6.0.801 / Virus Database: 544 - Release Date: 11/24/2004

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>>Did you get the return reciept back showing who signed for it? If so

you could fax them a copy of that saying - well this person signed

for it so ask them.

Maybe find out the name of someone with power and send them directly

registered return receipt another copy. <<

Thanks for the suggestions, but I am afraid anything I send by either fax or

mail will be the same results. I still have to get through their desk staff to

even talk to her,and the one time I visited she was not even allowed out of the

building to walk me to my car due to things my sister (who is NOW working there)

has told them. They are doing illegal things in their treatment of ME, but

nothing I can do about it unless I can get up there in person, which I just

can't afford to do, so ???? I can't afford to pay an attorney up there to hand

deliver this paper, or I would do that, though they would probably say they have

no proof it is ME on the phone. If they want to be difficult to me, and it seems

they do, there is little I can do from a distance. They just tell me I have to

go through my sister. Well my sister will not even receive my phone calls. She

has refused to talk to me since right after she put her in this nursing home and

I suggested there might have been other alternatives, like assisted living IF

she had consulted ME about this. But then SHE wouldn;t have complete control

like she does and like she wants. She has managed to screw me out of anything my

Grandmother wanted me to have of her belongings and the only thing I got was her

cat which no one wanted. Not even any of her old photos of us growing up which I

would have loved to have SOME of. Sorry but this has been going on for a year

now and my hands are tied but it doesn;t make it any easier to deal with to know

there is nothing I can do.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

---

Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

Version: 6.0.801 / Virus Database: 544 - Release Date: 11/24/2004

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>>Did you get the return reciept back showing who signed for it? If so

you could fax them a copy of that saying - well this person signed

for it so ask them.

Maybe find out the name of someone with power and send them directly

registered return receipt another copy. <<

Thanks for the suggestions, but I am afraid anything I send by either fax or

mail will be the same results. I still have to get through their desk staff to

even talk to her,and the one time I visited she was not even allowed out of the

building to walk me to my car due to things my sister (who is NOW working there)

has told them. They are doing illegal things in their treatment of ME, but

nothing I can do about it unless I can get up there in person, which I just

can't afford to do, so ???? I can't afford to pay an attorney up there to hand

deliver this paper, or I would do that, though they would probably say they have

no proof it is ME on the phone. If they want to be difficult to me, and it seems

they do, there is little I can do from a distance. They just tell me I have to

go through my sister. Well my sister will not even receive my phone calls. She

has refused to talk to me since right after she put her in this nursing home and

I suggested there might have been other alternatives, like assisted living IF

she had consulted ME about this. But then SHE wouldn;t have complete control

like she does and like she wants. She has managed to screw me out of anything my

Grandmother wanted me to have of her belongings and the only thing I got was her

cat which no one wanted. Not even any of her old photos of us growing up which I

would have loved to have SOME of. Sorry but this has been going on for a year

now and my hands are tied but it doesn;t make it any easier to deal with to know

there is nothing I can do.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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Hi Cindi,

Yes I did tell him that I have heard many doing well on Armour, but he said that

my test results were to good to switch my medication. I have tingling in my

fingers and my nose will get really cold at times. Just from holding the phone

to my ear, will cause my fingers to go numb. It is being so fatigued and

brainless that drives me up the wall.

I was suppose to have a test for Adrenal Fatigue, but I heard that the blood

test was not that accurate. I am looking for someone that does the salvia test,

are they better??

Thanks,

Kathy

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In a message dated 11/25/2004 8:17:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Wvyorkies@... writes:

> My Dr. is no help. I am on synthroid. He refuses to do anything else

> because the test show that my thyroid is in the normal range now

Have you told him you'd like to switch to armour?

cindi

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Hi Cindi,

Yes I did tell him that I have heard many doing well on Armour, but he said that

my test results were to good to switch my medication. I have tingling in my

fingers and my nose will get really cold at times. Just from holding the phone

to my ear, will cause my fingers to go numb. It is being so fatigued and

brainless that drives me up the wall.

I was suppose to have a test for Adrenal Fatigue, but I heard that the blood

test was not that accurate. I am looking for someone that does the salvia test,

are they better??

Thanks,

Kathy

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In a message dated 11/25/2004 8:17:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Wvyorkies@... writes:

> My Dr. is no help. I am on synthroid. He refuses to do anything else

> because the test show that my thyroid is in the normal range now

Have you told him you'd like to switch to armour?

cindi

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Hi Cindi,

Yes I did tell him that I have heard many doing well on Armour, but he said that

my test results were to good to switch my medication. I have tingling in my

fingers and my nose will get really cold at times. Just from holding the phone

to my ear, will cause my fingers to go numb. It is being so fatigued and

brainless that drives me up the wall.

I was suppose to have a test for Adrenal Fatigue, but I heard that the blood

test was not that accurate. I am looking for someone that does the salvia test,

are they better??

Thanks,

Kathy

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In a message dated 11/25/2004 8:17:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Wvyorkies@... writes:

> My Dr. is no help. I am on synthroid. He refuses to do anything else

> because the test show that my thyroid is in the normal range now

Have you told him you'd like to switch to armour?

cindi

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