Re: O/T Had Amalgam removal appt: Trouble, Need Help! (Long)

July 28, 2007

>

> I had my amalgams removed yesterday (no problem there). But since the

> gaps were rather large the dentist decided to place provisional crowns

> and bridges over the teeth, instead of placing temproray fillings as

> first planned. This is because he did not want to drill the fillings

> all over again and put unnecessary strain on the teeth. Now, whatever

> ceramic material was used (Cool Temp A2) - I had the most AWFUL

> reaction to it - according to them it was to the white color - my

> mouth started burning horribly - I was in tears!

I don't know anything about dental materials, but the fact that

they knew there could be an issue with the white color suggests

they have seen problems before. Seems to me they should have

known better than to place this without some type of testing,

or they just shouldn't use it.

> I HAD to use chlorella tablets in my mouth, they gave them I really

> had no choice I was feeling so wretched - kept them there massaging

> them in the mouth till they became paste - 3 minutes -then spat it

> out, rinsed thoroughly, and only after a while the burning stopped.

> Then since the teeth had been shaved down to adjust the bridge to be

> placed, and the huge gaps I had in my teeth, they insisted they had to

> finish the job, so used the least bothersome (Cool Temp A1) material

> for the provisional (did not have that white coloring). The problem is

> the left side of the mouth still has problems (it starts to burn again

> if I eat ANYTHING - the right side luckily is not bothering (today one

> of the tiny provisionl 'crowns' over part of the tooth that had an

> amalgam removed, just fell out, so now I am just rinsing very well

> with water after I eat with the right side of the mouth).

>

> The amalgam removals did not bother me but the allergic reaction to

> the ceramic left me completely exhausted (I must have sat thru that

> session for at least half an hour before I insisted on speaking with

> the dentist himself - it was his assistant who handled the provisionals.

>

> (Later on I did get the IV Vit C with nothing added to it).

>

> Has anyone heard of such a thing happening before? I was very, very

Allergic or sensitivity reactions are not uncommon. Mercury messes

up your immune system, including the allergic part of it.

> upset. DH and I had to travel out of town for this appointment. We

> went to eat some dinner that evening. I did not eat a morsel for my

> mouth started to burn and I literally just sat in the restaurant and

> cried my eyes out, right there in front of the other guests and dinner

> being served - I just could not stop. At this point I did not know if

> it was the mercury moving around in my system or just the entire

> episode that did a huge, gigantic number on my emotions. I had to do

> some deep breathing exercises to get myself to calm down before going

This is very mercury-related. Did they use proper protective

measures with removal? Outside breathing source?

Even with safe removal protocol, you will get some exposure.

Take lots of vitamin C, zinc, magnesium. Adrenal support might

be a good idea if you're not using any.

> to sleep. I was very, very depressed! And I was scared throughout my

> hazy sleep - felt very weird - almost as if I needed to conciously

> stay calm or I would go whacko. Was that the mercury - the little bit

It is the mercury.

> of chlorella - just the episode - a little bit of everything? I was

> relieved to get out of bed in the morning and see the sky.

>

> Today, the burning is not on the right side (work was down on both

> sides). But the left side (2 amalgams removed Lower Left and bridge

> work provisional done on Upper Left),burns even if I try to eat a

> boiled potato! This is happening only if I try to eat something on the

> left side. I don't know if the tissues of the palate and gums, cheek

> etc have been burnt and are hence sensitive right now - I don't know

> if just time will fix it or I need to take something for it.

I don't know.

> The dentist said she had never heard of such a thing happening before,

> it is an allergic reaction, I should have Vitamin E, drink lots of

> water, take Chlorella (to which I now said NO), take the aminos etc.

> But according to her I have to wait it out!

If it is true allergic reaction, then antihistamines might help.

If there is some trace of the substance left in your mouth causing

the burning, maybe try a solution of activated charcoal and water

and swish it around in your mouth and spit out. Be careful as

this will be messy (black stuff).

> Please anyone with more info, I need help. Now I don't know if I can

> go to another dentist to finish the job, since these guys have already

> made the impressions etc and just have to tell the lab when I decide

> to get the permanent crowns placed. If I use another dentist, does

> this mean I will have to go thru the whole procedure again? That

> seems like sheer torture and goodness knows what other harm I would be

> doing to my body. And here I was just focussing on the mercury issue!!

Another dentist would have to remove the temporaries and make new

impressions. Perhaps you could find out more about what caused the

problem with the A2 material, look into other materials, and get

compatibility testing done to be sure you will tolerate the

material.

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> Instead of celebrating that the amalgams are finally out I am feeling

> pretty low about all of this and very confused.

>

July 28, 2007

>

> (Later on I did get the IV Vit C with nothing added to it).

>

> Has anyone heard of such a thing happening before? I was very, very

> upset. DH and I had to travel out of town for this appointment. We

> went to eat some dinner that evening. I did not eat a morsel for my

> mouth started to burn and I literally just sat in the restaurant and

> cried my eyes out, right there in front of the other guests and dinner

> being served - I just could not stop. At this point I did not know if

> it was the mercury moving around in my system

IMR>>Almost sounds like it

> or just the entire

> episode that did a huge, gigantic number on my emotions. I had to do

> some deep breathing exercises to get myself to calm down before going

> to sleep. I was very, very depressed! And I was scared throughout my

> hazy sleep - felt very weird - almost as if I needed to conciously

> stay calm or I would go whacko. Was that the mercury -

IMR>>>>>Probably......mercury can do whacky awful things to you.

While chelating, if I miss a dose and then take some more, I can

go almost suicidal or simply crazy for a day, even though in

general, I consider myself fairly stable, from a mental/emotional

standpoint. This is even after it has been years since I had my

amalgams out.

> the little bit

> of chlorella

IMR>>Could be, It is not recommended

> - just the episode - a little bit of everything?

IMR>>>Mercury.....

> I was

> relieved to get out of bed in the morning and see the sky.

>

> Today, the burning is not on the right side (work was down on both

> sides). But the left side (2 amalgams removed Lower Left and bridge

> work provisional done on Upper Left),burns even if I try to eat a

> boiled potato! This is happening only if I try to eat something on the

> left side. I don't know if the tissues of the palate and gums, cheek

> etc have been burnt and are hence sensitive right now - I don't know

> if just time will fix it or I need to take something for it.

>

> The dentist said she had never heard of such a thing happening before,

> it is an allergic reaction, I should have Vitamin E, drink lots of

> water, take Chlorella (to which I now said NO), take the aminos etc.

> But according to her I have to wait it out!

>

> Please anyone with more info, I need help. Now I don't know if I can

> go to another dentist to finish the job, since these guys have already

> made the impressions etc and just have to tell the lab when I decide

> to get the permanent crowns placed. If I use another dentist, does

> this mean I will have to go thru the whole procedure again? That

> seems like sheer torture and goodness knows what other harm I would be

> doing to my body. And here I was just focussing on the mercury issue!!

IMR>>>>>>Well, I don't know that they did anything wrong enough to

warrant changing dentists. Mercury can have nasty effects, and iike

suggested, you may indeed be reacting to the materials used

and they need to address that.

I had a really, really neat dentist do my work, and he had special

titanium crowns made for me because I tested allergic to EVERYTHING

else, even gold. He tested in all sorts of ways too. Well, when the

titanium crowns got put into my mouth, I began having these brain

seizure-like attacks almost immediately. These went away as soon as

the crowns were removed a week later. The one thing that had been

different was that he switched to a new lab, and I was the first

recipient of anything titanium form there. Apparently, the titanium

had not been pure, and I reacted almost as badly as I did to the

mercury amalgams that had been in my mouth. (They gave me brain

seizures too, which stopped as soon as they were removed)

IMR>>>>>>>Please excuse me if this is out of order...my mail program

is reacting weirdly to this post, I just wanted to add that a couple

of things that have helped me are taking baking soda (or better yet,

Alka Selzter Gold) to help alkalinize and minimize allergic reaction

symptoms. The other thing that helps me is taking activated charcoal.

(Starwest Botanicals for bulk is less money) , but you can find it at

most (but not all) health food stores. Sometimes pharmacies have it

too, but often behind the counter where you have to ask for it.

Everybody is so different, these are just ideas to see if they might

help. They have helped me a lot, but you could be very different.

Worth a try. Take lots of C too. Sodium ascorbate would be good if

you can find it. Otherwise, just take plenty of baking soda to help

neutralize acidity.

>

> Instead of celebrating that the amalgams are finally out I am feeling

> pretty low about all of this and very confused.

>

IMR>>>>>>This is not that uncommon. Just know in your heart and mind

that it won't last forever. You will get better again.

~Inga

>

July 29, 2007

>

> This is very mercury-related. Did they use proper protective

> measures with removal? Outside breathing source?

>

> Even with safe removal protocol, you will get some exposure.

> Take lots of vitamin C, zinc, magnesium. Adrenal support might

> be a good idea if you're not using any.

>

They used the rubber dam and gave me a nose piece to breathe in

oxygen. They did this during the drilling phase. But before they

started to drill, the bigger pieces of amalgam were borken and pulled

out with some sort of equipment placed over the entire tooth. At this

time there was no protection.

>

> > Instead of celebrating that the amalgams are finally out I am feeling

> > pretty low about all of this and very confused.

> >

>

July 29, 2007

>

> >

>

> IMR>>>>>>>Please excuse me if this is out of order...my mail program

> is reacting weirdly to this post, I just wanted to add that a couple

> of things that have helped me are taking baking soda (or better yet,

> Alka Selzter Gold) to help alkalinize and minimize allergic reaction

> symptoms. The other thing that helps me is taking activated charcoal.

> (Starwest Botanicals for bulk is less money) , but you can find it at

> most (but not all) health food stores. Sometimes pharmacies have it

> too, but often behind the counter where you have to ask for it.

>

For how long can one keep taking the activated charcoal?

July 29, 2007

>

> IMR>>>>>>Well, I don't know that they did anything wrong enough to

> warrant changing dentists. Mercury can have nasty effects, and iike

> suggested, you may indeed be reacting to the materials used

> and they need to address that.

Well, I do question if it was the safe thing to follow up amalgam

removals with putting the patient thru the procedure needed for

creating provisionals for crowns and bridges - taking the impressions

involves pushing the metal arches filled with guey stuff right back

into the gum line and teeth areas. This was done at least a dozen

times, including fitting the provisionals over gapped areas to create

the right fit, bite etc. Are they not taking the great risk of

re-embedding any possible traces of leftover amalgam? This was all

done at the same appointment.

Personally I would rather have left with the big gaps in my 3 teeth

than have yet another 2 drilled down to allow for a bridge later on!

All together 6 teeth were worked on instead of the original 3. I was

persuaded that it would save me too many trips out of town.

Somehow I had the feeling it was also a business decision on their

part - I could have decided that since I had my amalgams out I could

go to a local dentist to get the remaining job done - whether inlays,

onlays and no crowns at all. Since they put me thru the whole process

and they have my impressions, I as a patient am more persuaded to go

back to them just to avoid the hassle with another dentist to redo it.

This has created a bit of a mistrust on my part.

When we left we were asked (by the assistant) to pay half the total

bill - ie total amount to get the entire job done. So we have actually

ended up paying more than necessary right now, since not even half the

job is done. When we questioned the dentist about this the next day,

the inital reaction was, send me an email on Monday and I'll look into

it. Then it became, well you know we do have to let the Lab know so

they can work on the premanent crowns, so they will have to be paid.

And I said sure, but let me decide first when I want to get it done

(and if I want to get it done). I think both dh and I felt a bit

pressureized to follow up with them. The goodbye was not very warm and

friendly but rather short.

July 29, 2007

Toowittybird: For how long can you use activated Charcoal?

Kai: I found the following what Dr Huggins says how to use it if it will help.

Regarding your emotional spell, I've always had bad emotional spells

after each dental appointment.

I find it very stressful. Tomorrow I'm having my teeth ozonated for

the 2nd time in 2 weeks and even such a simple procedure has me already nervous

the day before.

Hope this charcoal info helps, there's more info here where I got it from.

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/mercury_amalgam_removal.html

a.. ACTIVATED CHARCOAL is used as a once-off at the time of removal. It only

helps with current ingestion of toxins and is not to be taken regularly.

Charcoal works for ingested toxins and not inhaled vapours. Inhaled mercury

vapour is still present in a dentist offices that use mercury/or removes

mercury. Activated charcoal literally soaks up poison in the gut in case of

accidental swallowing. It is not to be taken regularly. Take 5 grams fifteen

minutes before the dental appointment starts and another 5 grams after. Expect

black coloured stools. Activated charcoal is not absorbed nor digested

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