Need suggestions..cannot handle Armour anymore

[Guest guest]

I've tried it for over about 2 weeks now and just can't do it anymore.

I feel like absolute crap on this stuff! I jumped in with the full 1

grain dose that I was prescribed and that was a rough couple of days. I

then learned on this site to back off, which I have done, but I still

feel so horrible. I started with 1/4 of a grain and I guess that was

bearable but not great. Started other things at the same time so I

thought problems might have been from that but the more I read, the

more I'm sure it's just the Armour.

I'm now taking 1/4 in a.m. and 1/4 in afternoon and feel miserable. I'm

foggy-headed, feel very spacey, tired, headachey and just plain icky.

Should I try something else?? Is it possible and worthwhile to try and

even smaller dose? I'm so looking forward to tomorrow when I don't take

ANY! I need a good day!

[Guest guest]

>>I'm now taking 1/4 in a.m. and 1/4 in afternoon and feel miserable. I'm

foggy-headed, feel very spacey, tired, headachey and just plain icky.<<

How much adrenal support areyou taking, can you send in your saliva labs you had

done, how lng on adrenal support? Temp graphing? Does your BP rise form sitting

to standing?

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[Guest guest]

I would say your adrenal support is ineffective. You will probably need

HC and that will lwoer your estrogen. High estrogen is one of my best

markers I look for when deciding if a person;s cortiosl is bqd enough ot

nmeed supplemental HC.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

Started other things at the same time so I

> thought problems might have been from that but the more I read, the

> more I'm sure it's just the Armour.

>

>

What else are you taking?

This is why its recommended to never try too many different things at

once. Whenever Im given something new, I will skip everything else and

only take that, and give myself at least twelve hours to see how it

does. Well, aside from the thyroid med I have to take daily.

Try, not taking the Armour for a day and see how you do.

If you still feel the same, then try not taking the other things for

the next day. This way you can tell what is causing this.

Yes, you should look into adrenal testing and ferritan levels. These

being low would make for a yucky reaction too armour.

Also, consider where you are at with your menstrual cycle if anywhere,

this can interfere with feelings of 'yuckiness' as all women know of.

Good Luck

[Guest guest]

Started other things at the same time so I

> thought problems might have been from that but the more I read, the

> more I'm sure it's just the Armour.

>

>

What else are you taking?

This is why its recommended to never try too many different things at

once. Whenever Im given something new, I will skip everything else and

only take that, and give myself at least twelve hours to see how it

does. Well, aside from the thyroid med I have to take daily.

Try, not taking the Armour for a day and see how you do.

If you still feel the same, then try not taking the other things for

the next day. This way you can tell what is causing this.

Yes, you should look into adrenal testing and ferritan levels. These

being low would make for a yucky reaction too armour.

Also, consider where you are at with your menstrual cycle if anywhere,

this can interfere with feelings of 'yuckiness' as all women know of.

Good Luck

[Guest guest]

Started other things at the same time so I

> thought problems might have been from that but the more I read, the

> more I'm sure it's just the Armour.

>

>

What else are you taking?

This is why its recommended to never try too many different things at

once. Whenever Im given something new, I will skip everything else and

only take that, and give myself at least twelve hours to see how it

does. Well, aside from the thyroid med I have to take daily.

Try, not taking the Armour for a day and see how you do.

If you still feel the same, then try not taking the other things for

the next day. This way you can tell what is causing this.

Yes, you should look into adrenal testing and ferritan levels. These

being low would make for a yucky reaction too armour.

Also, consider where you are at with your menstrual cycle if anywhere,

this can interfere with feelings of 'yuckiness' as all women know of.

Good Luck

[Guest guest]

So where should I start? Should I stick w/ the supplements I'm on and

consider adding hc? No, I haven't had ferritin tested. Don't know much

about that (ok...I know nothing) so I'll read about it tonight in some

old posts.

[Guest guest]

I would add HC.

Cheri

Re: Need suggestions..cannot handle Armour anymore

So where should I start? Should I stick w/ the supplements I'm on and

consider adding hc? No, I haven't had ferritin tested. Don't know much

about that (ok...I know nothing) so I'll read about it tonight in some

old posts.

.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Cheri. Can you point me to any articles, books or even files on

this site that talk about the benefits of this, as well as the risks

and how to start it. While I see it mentioned on here a million times a

day, I still don't understand it.

>

>

[Guest guest]

What are you asking for? Sorry, I am not clear by what you wrote below.

Articles on what?

How to start what?

You can also use the keyword box in this Yahoo group when you click on

" messages " . It will give you all the history of our discussions about Armour

intolerance after a period of time, HC and how it can help, reverse T3

issues and clearing out with T3, cellular resistance, etc.

Not sure if articles are there...some links may be provided, but if you need

articles in order to work with your doctor you best bet is to Google for

that info. That is normally where I find what I need.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

Thanks, Cheri. Can you point me to any articles, books or even files on

this site that talk about the benefits of this, as well as the risks

and how to start it. While I see it mentioned on here a million times a

day, I still don't understand it.

.

[Guest guest]

What are you asking for? Sorry, I am not clear by what you wrote below.

Articles on what?

How to start what?

You can also use the keyword box in this Yahoo group when you click on

" messages " . It will give you all the history of our discussions about Armour

intolerance after a period of time, HC and how it can help, reverse T3

issues and clearing out with T3, cellular resistance, etc.

Not sure if articles are there...some links may be provided, but if you need

articles in order to work with your doctor you best bet is to Google for

that info. That is normally where I find what I need.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

Thanks, Cheri. Can you point me to any articles, books or even files on

this site that talk about the benefits of this, as well as the risks

and how to start it. While I see it mentioned on here a million times a

day, I still don't understand it.

.

[Guest guest]

What are you asking for? Sorry, I am not clear by what you wrote below.

Articles on what?

How to start what?

You can also use the keyword box in this Yahoo group when you click on

" messages " . It will give you all the history of our discussions about Armour

intolerance after a period of time, HC and how it can help, reverse T3

issues and clearing out with T3, cellular resistance, etc.

Not sure if articles are there...some links may be provided, but if you need

articles in order to work with your doctor you best bet is to Google for

that info. That is normally where I find what I need.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

Thanks, Cheri. Can you point me to any articles, books or even files on

this site that talk about the benefits of this, as well as the risks

and how to start it. While I see it mentioned on here a million times a

day, I still don't understand it.

.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Cheri. You really have been great since I joined the list. I do

feel better today knowing I have more direction. The temping and trial

and error business ahead makes me nervous and seems to be a big

undertaking but I need to do it. I shared some of the info with my

hubby last night who really has no idea what I've been dealing with. I

think it was pretty eye-opening and maybe, just maybe, he finally has a

better idea of what a big deal this all is. Anyway, really just wanted

to say thanks!

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Cheri. You really have been great since I joined the list. I do

feel better today knowing I have more direction. The temping and trial

and error business ahead makes me nervous and seems to be a big

undertaking but I need to do it. I shared some of the info with my

hubby last night who really has no idea what I've been dealing with. I

think it was pretty eye-opening and maybe, just maybe, he finally has a

better idea of what a big deal this all is. Anyway, really just wanted

to say thanks!

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Cheri. You really have been great since I joined the list. I do

feel better today knowing I have more direction. The temping and trial

and error business ahead makes me nervous and seems to be a big

undertaking but I need to do it. I shared some of the info with my

hubby last night who really has no idea what I've been dealing with. I

think it was pretty eye-opening and maybe, just maybe, he finally has a

better idea of what a big deal this all is. Anyway, really just wanted

to say thanks!

[Guest guest]

I had a terrible time trying to tolerate Armour too until I started

taking it sublingually (under the tongue). Now it works like a

charm, or rather the way it's supposed to! I started with just 1/4

grain (15 mg.) and increased it by 1/4 every week to 10 days. I'm

still not optimized but I'm only at 45 mg. so I'm on my way!

Di

>

> I've tried it for over about 2 weeks now and just can't do it

anymore.

> I feel like absolute crap on this stuff! I jumped in with the full

1

> grain dose that I was prescribed and that was a rough couple of

days. I

> then learned on this site to back off, which I have done, but I

still

> feel so horrible. I started with 1/4 of a grain and I guess that

was

> bearable but not great. Started other things at the same time so I

> thought problems might have been from that but the more I read,

the

> more I'm sure it's just the Armour.

>

> I'm now taking 1/4 in a.m. and 1/4 in afternoon and feel

miserable. I'm

> foggy-headed, feel very spacey, tired, headachey and just plain

icky.

>

> Should I try something else?? Is it possible and worthwhile to try

and

> even smaller dose? I'm so looking forward to tomorrow when I don't

take

> ANY! I need a good day!

>

[Guest guest]

I had a terrible time trying to tolerate Armour too until I started

taking it sublingually (under the tongue). Now it works like a

charm, or rather the way it's supposed to! I started with just 1/4

grain (15 mg.) and increased it by 1/4 every week to 10 days. I'm

still not optimized but I'm only at 45 mg. so I'm on my way!

Di

>

> I've tried it for over about 2 weeks now and just can't do it

anymore.

> I feel like absolute crap on this stuff! I jumped in with the full

1

> grain dose that I was prescribed and that was a rough couple of

days. I

> then learned on this site to back off, which I have done, but I

still

> feel so horrible. I started with 1/4 of a grain and I guess that

was

> bearable but not great. Started other things at the same time so I

> thought problems might have been from that but the more I read,

the

> more I'm sure it's just the Armour.

>

> I'm now taking 1/4 in a.m. and 1/4 in afternoon and feel

miserable. I'm

> foggy-headed, feel very spacey, tired, headachey and just plain

icky.

>

> Should I try something else?? Is it possible and worthwhile to try

and

> even smaller dose? I'm so looking forward to tomorrow when I don't

take

> ANY! I need a good day!

>

[Guest guest]

I had a terrible time trying to tolerate Armour too until I started

taking it sublingually (under the tongue). Now it works like a

charm, or rather the way it's supposed to! I started with just 1/4

grain (15 mg.) and increased it by 1/4 every week to 10 days. I'm

still not optimized but I'm only at 45 mg. so I'm on my way!

Di

>

> I've tried it for over about 2 weeks now and just can't do it

anymore.

> I feel like absolute crap on this stuff! I jumped in with the full

1

> grain dose that I was prescribed and that was a rough couple of

days. I

> then learned on this site to back off, which I have done, but I

still

> feel so horrible. I started with 1/4 of a grain and I guess that

was

> bearable but not great. Started other things at the same time so I

> thought problems might have been from that but the more I read,

the

> more I'm sure it's just the Armour.

>

> I'm now taking 1/4 in a.m. and 1/4 in afternoon and feel

miserable. I'm

> foggy-headed, feel very spacey, tired, headachey and just plain

icky.

>

> Should I try something else?? Is it possible and worthwhile to try

and

> even smaller dose? I'm so looking forward to tomorrow when I don't

take

> ANY! I need a good day!

>

[Guest guest]

The only difference this should make is in better absorption. If

your problem is actually because of low ferritin or low cortisol,

this might make you worse. I recommend fixing the cortisol/ferritin

problem first.

Barb

" peachydeva " wrote:

>

> I had a terrible time trying to tolerate Armour too until I started

> taking it sublingually (under the tongue). Now it works like a

> charm, or rather the way it's supposed to! I started with just 1/4

> grain (15 mg.) and increased it by 1/4 every week to 10 days. I'm

> still not optimized but I'm only at 45 mg. so I'm on my way!

>

> Di

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I've tried it for over about 2 weeks now and just can't do it

> anymore.

> > I feel like absolute crap on this stuff! I jumped in with the

full

> 1

> > grain dose that I was prescribed and that was a rough couple of

> days. I

> > then learned on this site to back off, which I have done, but I

> still

> > feel so horrible. I started with 1/4 of a grain and I guess that

> was

> > bearable but not great. Started other things at the same time so

I

> > thought problems might have been from that but the more I read,

> the

> > more I'm sure it's just the Armour.

> >

> > I'm now taking 1/4 in a.m. and 1/4 in afternoon and feel

> miserable. I'm

> > foggy-headed, feel very spacey, tired, headachey and just plain

> icky.

> >

> > Should I try something else?? Is it possible and worthwhile to

try

> and

> > even smaller dose? I'm so looking forward to tomorrow when I

don't

> take

> > ANY! I need a good day!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The only difference this should make is in better absorption. If

your problem is actually because of low ferritin or low cortisol,

this might make you worse. I recommend fixing the cortisol/ferritin

problem first.

Barb

" peachydeva " wrote:

>

> I had a terrible time trying to tolerate Armour too until I started

> taking it sublingually (under the tongue). Now it works like a

> charm, or rather the way it's supposed to! I started with just 1/4

> grain (15 mg.) and increased it by 1/4 every week to 10 days. I'm

> still not optimized but I'm only at 45 mg. so I'm on my way!

>

> Di

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I've tried it for over about 2 weeks now and just can't do it

> anymore.

> > I feel like absolute crap on this stuff! I jumped in with the

full

> 1

> > grain dose that I was prescribed and that was a rough couple of

> days. I

> > then learned on this site to back off, which I have done, but I

> still

> > feel so horrible. I started with 1/4 of a grain and I guess that

> was

> > bearable but not great. Started other things at the same time so

I

> > thought problems might have been from that but the more I read,

> the

> > more I'm sure it's just the Armour.

> >

> > I'm now taking 1/4 in a.m. and 1/4 in afternoon and feel

> miserable. I'm

> > foggy-headed, feel very spacey, tired, headachey and just plain

> icky.

> >

> > Should I try something else?? Is it possible and worthwhile to

try

> and

> > even smaller dose? I'm so looking forward to tomorrow when I

don't

> take

> > ANY! I need a good day!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The only difference this should make is in better absorption. If

your problem is actually because of low ferritin or low cortisol,

this might make you worse. I recommend fixing the cortisol/ferritin

problem first.

Barb

" peachydeva " wrote:

>

> I had a terrible time trying to tolerate Armour too until I started

> taking it sublingually (under the tongue). Now it works like a

> charm, or rather the way it's supposed to! I started with just 1/4

> grain (15 mg.) and increased it by 1/4 every week to 10 days. I'm

> still not optimized but I'm only at 45 mg. so I'm on my way!

>

> Di

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I've tried it for over about 2 weeks now and just can't do it

> anymore.

> > I feel like absolute crap on this stuff! I jumped in with the

full

> 1

> > grain dose that I was prescribed and that was a rough couple of

> days. I

> > then learned on this site to back off, which I have done, but I

> still

> > feel so horrible. I started with 1/4 of a grain and I guess that

> was

> > bearable but not great. Started other things at the same time so

I

> > thought problems might have been from that but the more I read,

> the

> > more I'm sure it's just the Armour.

> >

> > I'm now taking 1/4 in a.m. and 1/4 in afternoon and feel

> miserable. I'm

> > foggy-headed, feel very spacey, tired, headachey and just plain

> icky.

> >

> > Should I try something else?? Is it possible and worthwhile to

try

> and

> > even smaller dose? I'm so looking forward to tomorrow when I

don't

> take

> > ANY! I need a good day!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your response. When I went to 1/4 grain, it was

tolerable...I guess...but I still did not feel well. I kept forgetting

to try it under my tounge though. So does that mean you take a regular

tablet and just let it dissolve under your tounge?

I do think I need to hold off on the Armour though. I'm taking some

adrenal support supplements and I'm looking into hc this week.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your response. When I went to 1/4 grain, it was

tolerable...I guess...but I still did not feel well. I kept forgetting

to try it under my tounge though. So does that mean you take a regular

tablet and just let it dissolve under your tounge?

I do think I need to hold off on the Armour though. I'm taking some

adrenal support supplements and I'm looking into hc this week.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your response. When I went to 1/4 grain, it was

tolerable...I guess...but I still did not feel well. I kept forgetting

to try it under my tounge though. So does that mean you take a regular

tablet and just let it dissolve under your tounge?

I do think I need to hold off on the Armour though. I'm taking some

adrenal support supplements and I'm looking into hc this week.

[Guest guest]

Yep...super low cortisol. Haven't had the other tested but I'm going to

research more on that today and ask my doc about it next time we chat.

Thank you!