Re: Results from NPTech (UK) - sorry, one more question

[Guest guest]

Thanks Val - I wake up very suddenly feeling short of breath and

nervous and can hear my heart pounding in my ears... my mind starts

racing on these endless negative feedback loops about how I can't cope

and I'll never get better, etc... it usually takes at least an hour

before I can calm down enough to sleep (sometimes I can't sleep and

just stay awake until the alarm goes off).

If it is my high-ish cortisol at night, is there a way of lowering it

without further lowering my low AM cortisol?

- (in England, not the other on this board )

> Usually it is adrenaline thta causes th panic attacks,sleepless ness

can

> be high cortiol low cortils or adrenaline, but for a full blown panic I

> aouldthnk adrenaline.

[Guest guest]

The heart pounding tells me it is most liekly hypoglycemia that is the

main cause as this makes your body produce excess adrenaline. I would

try not eatign ANY carbs after about 5PM and eating a LARGE high protein

snack at bedtime. Thsi is usually wiht LOW cortisol and not high.

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[Guest guest]

Also, have you had a sleep study? Apart from what said (I didn't have

adrenal help back in the 90s), I ask because I had awakenings with fast HR and

after I started on a C-PAP that all went away.

Re: Results from NPTech (UK) - sorry, one more

question

Thanks Val - I wake up very suddenly feeling short of breath and

nervous and can hear my heart pounding in my ears... my mind starts

racing on these endless negative feedback loops about how I can't cope and

I'll never get better, etc... it usually takes at least an hour

before I can calm down enough to sleep (sometimes I can't sleep and

just stay awake until the alarm goes off).

If it is my high-ish cortisol at night, is there a way of lowering it

without further lowering my low AM cortisol?

- (in England, not the other on this board )

> Usually it is adrenaline thta causes th panic attacks,sleepless ness

can be high cortiol low cortils or adrenaline, but for a full blown panic I

> aouldthnk adrenaline.

[Guest guest]

What causes the adrenaline? Is it low cortisol?

Arem says hypoT causes panic attacks and agoraphobia which I currently have, but

the only thing that comes up on this board about causing this is ADRENALS.

Re: Results from NPTech (UK) - sorry, one more

question

Thanks Val - I wake up very suddenly feeling short of breath and

nervous and can hear my heart pounding in my ears... my mind starts

racing on these endless negative feedback loops about how I can't cope

and I'll never get better, etc... it usually takes at least an hour

before I can calm down enough to sleep (sometimes I can't sleep and

just stay awake until the alarm goes off).

If it is my high-ish cortisol at night, is there a way of lowering it

without further lowering my low AM cortisol?

- (in England, not the other on this board )

> Usually it is adrenaline thta causes th panic attacks,sleepless ness

can

> be high cortiol low cortils or adrenaline, but for a full blown panic I

> aouldthnk adrenaline.

[Guest guest]

But the panic attacks of hypoT could be due to low cortisol preventing

thyroid from getting into the cells, which IS an adrenal issue because it

isn't the thyroid causing it but the adrenaline kicking in because the

adrenals cannot handle the assault from thyroid (like increased doses or RT3

issues).

Check Dr. Rind's site again. Panic attacks are a classic adrenal symptom. A

lot of docs confuse this when a person has both thyroid and adrenal issues.

Having both myself, I believe it is an adrenal issue complicated by thyroid

issues.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

What causes the adrenaline? Is it low cortisol?

Arem says hypoT causes panic attacks and agoraphobia which I currently

have, but the only thing that comes up on this board about causing this is

ADRENALS.

.

[Guest guest]

Then why is my anxiety disoder/panic now to the point of agoraphobia when I am

taking 30 mgs. of cortef per day. I would think that should be enough, and this

wasn't happening for the two years I was only on 15 mgs. of Cortef and was fully

functional and back to work and school. Can somebody have an anxiety disorder

for other reasons?

RE: Re: Results from NPTech (UK) - sorry, one more

question

But the panic attacks of hypoT could be due to low cortisol preventing

thyroid from getting into the cells, which IS an adrenal issue because it

isn't the thyroid causing it but the adrenaline kicking in because the

adrenals cannot handle the assault from thyroid (like increased doses or RT3

issues).

Check Dr. Rind's site again. Panic attacks are a classic adrenal symptom. A

lot of docs confuse this when a person has both thyroid and adrenal issues.

Having both myself, I believe it is an adrenal issue complicated by thyroid

issues.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

What causes the adrenaline? Is it low cortisol?

Arem says hypoT causes panic attacks and agoraphobia which I currently

have, but the only thing that comes up on this board about causing this is

ADRENALS.

.

[Guest guest]

Well, anything that disrupts the HPA can trigger panic attacks, but

ultimately the " attack " is adrenaline rush so the adrenals will be involved

at some point. All adrenaline comes from the adrenals. The triggers can be

all sorts of things.

I remember having one over an emotional issue, however, now that my cortisol

levels have improved my panic issues have dramatically improved. It may be

because the same triggers no longer cause adrenaline rushes but use up

cortisol like they are supposed to...because enough cortisol is there.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

Then why is my anxiety disoder/panic now to the point of agoraphobia when

I am taking 30 mgs. of cortef per day. I would think that should be enough,

and this wasn't happening for the two years I was only on 15 mgs. of Cortef

and was fully functional and back to work and school. Can somebody have an

anxiety disorder for other reasons?

.

[Guest guest]

Yes, it definitely stops apneas. If you snore or wake up feeling unrefreshed,

these " should' be enough to let your doctor know that you have a possible sleep

issue. All I said to my doctor was that I couldn't remember when I'd had a good

night's sleep. I hope you can check further.

>>>No sleep study - I am in the UK and my NHS doc is utterly useless. Does a

CPAP address apnea problems?

[Guest guest]

Yes, it definitely stops apneas. If you snore or wake up feeling unrefreshed,

these " should' be enough to let your doctor know that you have a possible sleep

issue. All I said to my doctor was that I couldn't remember when I'd had a good

night's sleep. I hope you can check further.

>>>No sleep study - I am in the UK and my NHS doc is utterly useless. Does a

CPAP address apnea problems?

[Guest guest]

Yes, it definitely stops apneas. If you snore or wake up feeling unrefreshed,

these " should' be enough to let your doctor know that you have a possible sleep

issue. All I said to my doctor was that I couldn't remember when I'd had a good

night's sleep. I hope you can check further.

>>>No sleep study - I am in the UK and my NHS doc is utterly useless. Does a

CPAP address apnea problems?