Guest guest Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Here I am again, trying to make sense of my symptoms/labs... rT3 cleared about two months ago and so far haven't been able to find my T3 dose and I have great difficulties to " read " my body. As far as I can tell I have rather severe hypo symptoms, but my hart is racing far too much (right now, sitting peacefully in front of the computer for a while my hart rate is 100, but it gets sometimes to 120), and it seems to go faster as I rise T3... I am now taking 62.5 mg T3 and 22.5 HC. I had a blood draw this morning and this is the result (11,30 hours after last T3 dose): Free T3 : 4.65 pmol/L (2.63-5.7) Some weeks ago I was taking 37.5 mg T3 and 27.5 HC, and the results were (12/13 hours after last T3 dose): Free T3 : 3.88 pmol/L (2.63-5.7) It seems I am still a bit hypo (which will agree with most of my symptoms) but, what can I do with my hart, it acctually scares me when it races this way. My ferritin after clearance was 120, so I don't think this is the problem. I tested electrolites today as well and the results were: Sodium: 145 mEq/L (135-155) Potassium: 4.2 mEq/L (3.5-5.5) (I am supplementong !200 potassium, and half teaspoon of salt twice a day) I do need all the help I can get! Many, many thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 I would do a full iron panel. If that turns up nothign it usually means oyu need mroe HC. -- http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 I would do a full iron panel. If that turns up nothign it usually means oyu need mroe HC. -- http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 I would do a full iron panel. If that turns up nothign it usually means oyu need mroe HC. -- http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 So, do you think the high hart rate is because I'm not tolerating T3? But my free T3 has been much higher before (even when I was on Armour) and I didn't have this fast hart beat... Also my ferritin is higher now that it has been since I started thyroid replacement... I have been reducing HC lately (after clearance) following your suggestion. Actually one peculiar thing is that before clearance I was loosing weight by the day (becoming even too thin) and after clearance, from one day to the next, I started putting on weight quite rapidly. I interpreted this as my adrenals being in a better shape but I have to say I am right now completely lost. Is it possible at all that the fast hart beat is caused by too much HC? Many thanks, > > I would do a full iron panel. If that turns up nothign it usually means > oyu need mroe HC. > > -- > > http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://faqhelp.webs.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I guess is not low salt (latest labs: Sodium: 145 mEq/L (135-155)) and I don't think is adrenaline (because I think I recognize how that feels). Is there a way for me to distinguish between intolerance to T3 and high cortisol (I am now taking 22.5 HC)? Many, many thanks, > Fast heart rate is caused by several things. Intolerance to T3, > adrenaline, high cortiosl or low salt. > > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I guess is not low salt (latest labs: Sodium: 145 mEq/L (135-155)) and I don't think is adrenaline (because I think I recognize how that feels). Is there a way for me to distinguish between intolerance to T3 and high cortisol (I am now taking 22.5 HC)? Many, many thanks, > Fast heart rate is caused by several things. Intolerance to T3, > adrenaline, high cortiosl or low salt. > > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I guess is not low salt (latest labs: Sodium: 145 mEq/L (135-155)) and I don't think is adrenaline (because I think I recognize how that feels). Is there a way for me to distinguish between intolerance to T3 and high cortisol (I am now taking 22.5 HC)? Many, many thanks, > Fast heart rate is caused by several things. Intolerance to T3, > adrenaline, high cortiosl or low salt. > > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Absolutely NO pro here, but what ARE your symptoms? I've been looking closely at hypo symptoms and adrenal fatigue symptoms, and they seem to intertwine a lot. In my case, I know I have bad adrenals due to the huge amount of stress and my inability to deal with it over the past 10 years. Are you taking anything besides the HC for the adrenals? Dr. Lam's office suggests a LOT of vitamin C. I'm taking it in 3 different forms. If it weren't for this nagging shortness of breath I've been having for two months, so many of my symptoms have disappeared. I was told last week I was reversing, so I guess I'm waiting for the rt3 to clear now. The doctor took me off of the Naturethroid, so I'm on HC, but no thyroid right now. Said she would put me on t3 later. I also take other adrenal support. Since I'm on NO thyroid right now, and my labs show that my free t3 to rt3 ratio is like 10.00, I am taking iodine in hopes it will at least boost my throid some. (Is this a good or bad idea, )? I also have low b-12, and high thyroglobulin antibodies. She hasn't checked my iron levels yet, so not sure where I am on that. > > Here I am again, trying to make sense of my symptoms/labs... rT3 cleared about two months ago and so far haven't been able to find my T3 dose and I have great difficulties to " read " my body. As far as I can tell I have rather severe hypo symptoms, but my hart is racing far too much (right now, sitting peacefully in front of the computer for a while my hart rate is 100, but it gets sometimes to 120), and it seems to go faster as I rise T3... > > > I am now taking 62.5 mg T3 and 22.5 HC. I had a blood draw this morning and this is the result (11,30 hours after last T3 dose): > Free T3 : 4.65 pmol/L (2.63-5.7) > > > Some weeks ago I was taking 37.5 mg T3 and 27.5 HC, and the results were (12/13 hours after last T3 dose): > Free T3 : 3.88 pmol/L (2.63-5.7) > > It seems I am still a bit hypo (which will agree with most of my symptoms) but, what can I do with my hart, it acctually scares me when it races this way. > > My ferritin after clearance was 120, so I don't think this is the problem. I tested electrolites today as well and the results were: > Sodium: 145 mEq/L (135-155) > Potassium: 4.2 mEq/L (3.5-5.5) > (I am supplementong !200 potassium, and half teaspoon of salt twice a day) > > I do need all the help I can get! > Many, many thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Absolutely NO pro here, but what ARE your symptoms? I've been looking closely at hypo symptoms and adrenal fatigue symptoms, and they seem to intertwine a lot. In my case, I know I have bad adrenals due to the huge amount of stress and my inability to deal with it over the past 10 years. Are you taking anything besides the HC for the adrenals? Dr. Lam's office suggests a LOT of vitamin C. I'm taking it in 3 different forms. If it weren't for this nagging shortness of breath I've been having for two months, so many of my symptoms have disappeared. I was told last week I was reversing, so I guess I'm waiting for the rt3 to clear now. The doctor took me off of the Naturethroid, so I'm on HC, but no thyroid right now. Said she would put me on t3 later. I also take other adrenal support. Since I'm on NO thyroid right now, and my labs show that my free t3 to rt3 ratio is like 10.00, I am taking iodine in hopes it will at least boost my throid some. (Is this a good or bad idea, )? I also have low b-12, and high thyroglobulin antibodies. She hasn't checked my iron levels yet, so not sure where I am on that. > > Here I am again, trying to make sense of my symptoms/labs... rT3 cleared about two months ago and so far haven't been able to find my T3 dose and I have great difficulties to " read " my body. As far as I can tell I have rather severe hypo symptoms, but my hart is racing far too much (right now, sitting peacefully in front of the computer for a while my hart rate is 100, but it gets sometimes to 120), and it seems to go faster as I rise T3... > > > I am now taking 62.5 mg T3 and 22.5 HC. I had a blood draw this morning and this is the result (11,30 hours after last T3 dose): > Free T3 : 4.65 pmol/L (2.63-5.7) > > > Some weeks ago I was taking 37.5 mg T3 and 27.5 HC, and the results were (12/13 hours after last T3 dose): > Free T3 : 3.88 pmol/L (2.63-5.7) > > It seems I am still a bit hypo (which will agree with most of my symptoms) but, what can I do with my hart, it acctually scares me when it races this way. > > My ferritin after clearance was 120, so I don't think this is the problem. I tested electrolites today as well and the results were: > Sodium: 145 mEq/L (135-155) > Potassium: 4.2 mEq/L (3.5-5.5) > (I am supplementong !200 potassium, and half teaspoon of salt twice a day) > > I do need all the help I can get! > Many, many thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Absolutely NO pro here, but what ARE your symptoms? I've been looking closely at hypo symptoms and adrenal fatigue symptoms, and they seem to intertwine a lot. In my case, I know I have bad adrenals due to the huge amount of stress and my inability to deal with it over the past 10 years. Are you taking anything besides the HC for the adrenals? Dr. Lam's office suggests a LOT of vitamin C. I'm taking it in 3 different forms. If it weren't for this nagging shortness of breath I've been having for two months, so many of my symptoms have disappeared. I was told last week I was reversing, so I guess I'm waiting for the rt3 to clear now. The doctor took me off of the Naturethroid, so I'm on HC, but no thyroid right now. Said she would put me on t3 later. I also take other adrenal support. Since I'm on NO thyroid right now, and my labs show that my free t3 to rt3 ratio is like 10.00, I am taking iodine in hopes it will at least boost my throid some. (Is this a good or bad idea, )? I also have low b-12, and high thyroglobulin antibodies. She hasn't checked my iron levels yet, so not sure where I am on that. > > Here I am again, trying to make sense of my symptoms/labs... rT3 cleared about two months ago and so far haven't been able to find my T3 dose and I have great difficulties to " read " my body. As far as I can tell I have rather severe hypo symptoms, but my hart is racing far too much (right now, sitting peacefully in front of the computer for a while my hart rate is 100, but it gets sometimes to 120), and it seems to go faster as I rise T3... > > > I am now taking 62.5 mg T3 and 22.5 HC. I had a blood draw this morning and this is the result (11,30 hours after last T3 dose): > Free T3 : 4.65 pmol/L (2.63-5.7) > > > Some weeks ago I was taking 37.5 mg T3 and 27.5 HC, and the results were (12/13 hours after last T3 dose): > Free T3 : 3.88 pmol/L (2.63-5.7) > > It seems I am still a bit hypo (which will agree with most of my symptoms) but, what can I do with my hart, it acctually scares me when it races this way. > > My ferritin after clearance was 120, so I don't think this is the problem. I tested electrolites today as well and the results were: > Sodium: 145 mEq/L (135-155) > Potassium: 4.2 mEq/L (3.5-5.5) > (I am supplementong !200 potassium, and half teaspoon of salt twice a day) > > I do need all the help I can get! > Many, many thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 My temps are not too high, only heart rate is high. I just wonder if it could be high cortisol instead of T3 intolerance what is causing the high pulse. Would it be a way to tell apart T3 intolerance from high cortisol? Many thanks, > > Body temps! If low it is not too much T3 but intolerance. > > -- > > http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://faqhelp.webs.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 My temps are not too high, only heart rate is high. I just wonder if it could be high cortisol instead of T3 intolerance what is causing the high pulse. Would it be a way to tell apart T3 intolerance from high cortisol? Many thanks, > > Body temps! If low it is not too much T3 but intolerance. > > -- > > http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://faqhelp.webs.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 My temps are not too high, only heart rate is high. I just wonder if it could be high cortisol instead of T3 intolerance what is causing the high pulse. Would it be a way to tell apart T3 intolerance from high cortisol? Many thanks, > > Body temps! If low it is not too much T3 but intolerance. > > -- > > http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://faqhelp.webs.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 My eyes are dry like sandpaper (mostly when I wake up) and I have back pain (which went away both with synthroid and Armour). I am very tired and depressed also (but these never went away with any previous thyroid medication so I am not sure they are thyroid symptoms for me... who knows. > > Absolutely NO pro here, but what ARE your symptoms? I've been looking closely at hypo symptoms and adrenal fatigue symptoms, and they seem to intertwine a lot. In my case, I know I have bad adrenals due to the huge amount of stress and my inability to deal with it over the past 10 years. Are you taking anything besides the HC for the adrenals? Dr. Lam's office suggests a LOT of vitamin C. I'm taking it in 3 different forms. If it weren't for this nagging shortness of breath I've been having for two months, so many of my symptoms have disappeared. I was told last week I was reversing, so I guess I'm waiting for the rt3 to clear now. The doctor took me off of the Naturethroid, so I'm on HC, but no thyroid right now. Said she would put me on t3 later. I also take other adrenal support. Since I'm on NO thyroid right now, and my labs show that my free t3 to rt3 ratio is like 10.00, I am taking iodine in hopes it will at least boost my throid some. (Is this a good or bad idea, )? I also have low b-12, and high thyroglobulin antibodies. She hasn't checked my iron levels yet, so not sure where I am on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 My eyes are dry like sandpaper (mostly when I wake up) and I have back pain (which went away both with synthroid and Armour). I am very tired and depressed also (but these never went away with any previous thyroid medication so I am not sure they are thyroid symptoms for me... who knows. > > Absolutely NO pro here, but what ARE your symptoms? I've been looking closely at hypo symptoms and adrenal fatigue symptoms, and they seem to intertwine a lot. In my case, I know I have bad adrenals due to the huge amount of stress and my inability to deal with it over the past 10 years. Are you taking anything besides the HC for the adrenals? Dr. Lam's office suggests a LOT of vitamin C. I'm taking it in 3 different forms. If it weren't for this nagging shortness of breath I've been having for two months, so many of my symptoms have disappeared. I was told last week I was reversing, so I guess I'm waiting for the rt3 to clear now. The doctor took me off of the Naturethroid, so I'm on HC, but no thyroid right now. Said she would put me on t3 later. I also take other adrenal support. Since I'm on NO thyroid right now, and my labs show that my free t3 to rt3 ratio is like 10.00, I am taking iodine in hopes it will at least boost my throid some. (Is this a good or bad idea, )? I also have low b-12, and high thyroglobulin antibodies. She hasn't checked my iron levels yet, so not sure where I am on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 My eyes are dry like sandpaper (mostly when I wake up) and I have back pain (which went away both with synthroid and Armour). I am very tired and depressed also (but these never went away with any previous thyroid medication so I am not sure they are thyroid symptoms for me... who knows. > > Absolutely NO pro here, but what ARE your symptoms? I've been looking closely at hypo symptoms and adrenal fatigue symptoms, and they seem to intertwine a lot. In my case, I know I have bad adrenals due to the huge amount of stress and my inability to deal with it over the past 10 years. Are you taking anything besides the HC for the adrenals? Dr. Lam's office suggests a LOT of vitamin C. I'm taking it in 3 different forms. If it weren't for this nagging shortness of breath I've been having for two months, so many of my symptoms have disappeared. I was told last week I was reversing, so I guess I'm waiting for the rt3 to clear now. The doctor took me off of the Naturethroid, so I'm on HC, but no thyroid right now. Said she would put me on t3 later. I also take other adrenal support. Since I'm on NO thyroid right now, and my labs show that my free t3 to rt3 ratio is like 10.00, I am taking iodine in hopes it will at least boost my throid some. (Is this a good or bad idea, )? I also have low b-12, and high thyroglobulin antibodies. She hasn't checked my iron levels yet, so not sure where I am on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Val, Why did you suggest to do a full iron panel? Do you think my ferritin (120 after clearance, about two months ago) may be " falsely " high?... you see, I don't think so because it has been rising gradually as I supplemented iron. It was 40 at the beginning, then 70 and last time it was 120. Many thanks, > > I would do a full iron panel. If that turns up nothign it usually means > oyu need mroe HC. > > -- > > http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://faqhelp.webs.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Val, Why did you suggest to do a full iron panel? Do you think my ferritin (120 after clearance, about two months ago) may be " falsely " high?... you see, I don't think so because it has been rising gradually as I supplemented iron. It was 40 at the beginning, then 70 and last time it was 120. Many thanks, > > I would do a full iron panel. If that turns up nothign it usually means > oyu need mroe HC. > > -- > > http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://faqhelp.webs.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Brrrrr!!! pulse was 80/85 for two days after reducing cortisol, which was great, but now is up again to 100/120... I have reduced cortisol again but so far no change. Pulse went up suddently yesteday at midday and has stayed high since... Yesterday my temps during the day where high even up to 99.2 (post.ovulation) and that makes me wonder if I am actually hyper... but I still have hypo symptoms... I feel sooo lost... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Brrrrr!!! pulse was 80/85 for two days after reducing cortisol, which was great, but now is up again to 100/120... I have reduced cortisol again but so far no change. Pulse went up suddently yesteday at midday and has stayed high since... Yesterday my temps during the day where high even up to 99.2 (post.ovulation) and that makes me wonder if I am actually hyper... but I still have hypo symptoms... I feel sooo lost... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Many thanks Nick, But I don't know how I feel (apart from bad). It is difficult for me to read my body, I do not feel so " responsive " to small changes in meds. I certainly do not feel better or worse after a few hours of changing cortisol dose. I feel sooo depressed this morning, I slept horribly with nightmares and cramps in my calves. It seems nothing is working and I don't feel particularly better than 2 year ago when I started treating thyroid. Sometimes I have even started to regret I took the self treating route instead of staffing myself with antidepresants as doctor suggested... Sorry but I feel so low. I think that one of the things that is making me feel so low is the thought that things are not working and, who knows, may never work. This though is dragging me down. Nightmares can be a low cortisol symptom, isn't it? However (although is too early in the morning to say for sure) pulse seems to have gone down. Maybe I'm lowering cortisol too fast. Basal temperatures are still all over the place, even if I wake up at similar hours, To tell the truth all this high pulse problems started a few days (3-4) after I upped my T3 dose from 56,25 to 62.5. But can one be hyper and have hypo symptoms like very dry eyes and back pain. Also my latest labs didn't show hyper: Free T3 : 4.65 pmol/L (2.63-5.7) (11,30 hours after last T3 dose) It may sound ridiculous but I somehow feel that to lower T3 is to give up, because what will happen then to the hypo symptoms... still have hypo symptoms... I feel sooo lost... > > You might be hyper, it's more likely from the way you describe it that > you are low cortisol and producing some adrenaline, do you feel wired > and jittery??? > > Yof can play with it 2 ways, strass dose cortisol, say and extra 5mg, > and see if it relieves symptoms, the other way you can try is to lower > T3, say by 20% of your dose and see what happens. > > The HC will be almost immediate, 30 mins or so, and the T3 it will be > several hours before you feel the difference, maybe not till the next > day. > > Nick > > -- > > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to > > www.thyroid-rt3.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Many thanks Nick, But I don't know how I feel (apart from bad). It is difficult for me to read my body, I do not feel so " responsive " to small changes in meds. I certainly do not feel better or worse after a few hours of changing cortisol dose. I feel sooo depressed this morning, I slept horribly with nightmares and cramps in my calves. It seems nothing is working and I don't feel particularly better than 2 year ago when I started treating thyroid. Sometimes I have even started to regret I took the self treating route instead of staffing myself with antidepresants as doctor suggested... Sorry but I feel so low. I think that one of the things that is making me feel so low is the thought that things are not working and, who knows, may never work. This though is dragging me down. Nightmares can be a low cortisol symptom, isn't it? However (although is too early in the morning to say for sure) pulse seems to have gone down. Maybe I'm lowering cortisol too fast. Basal temperatures are still all over the place, even if I wake up at similar hours, To tell the truth all this high pulse problems started a few days (3-4) after I upped my T3 dose from 56,25 to 62.5. But can one be hyper and have hypo symptoms like very dry eyes and back pain. Also my latest labs didn't show hyper: Free T3 : 4.65 pmol/L (2.63-5.7) (11,30 hours after last T3 dose) It may sound ridiculous but I somehow feel that to lower T3 is to give up, because what will happen then to the hypo symptoms... still have hypo symptoms... I feel sooo lost... > > You might be hyper, it's more likely from the way you describe it that > you are low cortisol and producing some adrenaline, do you feel wired > and jittery??? > > Yof can play with it 2 ways, strass dose cortisol, say and extra 5mg, > and see if it relieves symptoms, the other way you can try is to lower > T3, say by 20% of your dose and see what happens. > > The HC will be almost immediate, 30 mins or so, and the T3 it will be > several hours before you feel the difference, maybe not till the next > day. > > Nick > > -- > > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to > > www.thyroid-rt3.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Nick, many thanks for your answer! Let's see, electrolites were a bit low, but I am supplementing and last times I have tested were very good. Vitamin B12 and D were low but I have been supplementing and are quite good now. Ferritin was 120 one month ago or so (have supplemented iron as well). Aldosterone was actually quite high (way above range) last month. I asked my doctor and he said is not so uncommon to have high aldosterone when supplementing HC... As for cortisol, I don't really know, I have been reducing the dose little by little since clearance (almost 3 months ago) and I have not noticed clear adverse reactions. So, this is now my situation 15 HC, 62.5 T3, I feel tired, particularly I can't face to be standing up, my BP is quite low (10.2/5.9 or lower), heart rate is high. I still feel hypo symptoms (like dry eyes, back pain, and, of course, depresion, etc). Basal temps are changing quite a bit but I can't say much about daily average temps because I haven't been cheking regularly lately. I feel even less resistant to stress now than before I started any treatment... It is really hot weather now where I live, 36/37 C and I am having a very bad time coping with that, my legs hurt and just can't face life right now... So, I guess everything should be O.K. now, except T3 dose or adrenals. But I have been trying going up and down both with cortisol and T3 and I can't find any clear improvements. > > >I think that one of the things that is making me feel so low is the thought that things are not working and, who knows, may never work. This though is dragging me down. > > If you are not feeling the effect of small changes then the chances > are that you are a fair way away from the sweet spot. > > The FT3 lab looks reasonable, this tends to suggest that Cortisol, > Aldosterone, electrolytes, vitamin D, or vitamin B12 might be > involved. > > Adverse effects increasing T3 are often cortisol or ferritin related > and cortisol in particular can lead to a drop in temperature after > taking T3. > > Has anything shown from previous labs?? > > Nick > > -- > > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to > > www.thyroid-rt3.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Nick, many thanks for your answer! Let's see, electrolites were a bit low, but I am supplementing and last times I have tested were very good. Vitamin B12 and D were low but I have been supplementing and are quite good now. Ferritin was 120 one month ago or so (have supplemented iron as well). Aldosterone was actually quite high (way above range) last month. I asked my doctor and he said is not so uncommon to have high aldosterone when supplementing HC... As for cortisol, I don't really know, I have been reducing the dose little by little since clearance (almost 3 months ago) and I have not noticed clear adverse reactions. So, this is now my situation 15 HC, 62.5 T3, I feel tired, particularly I can't face to be standing up, my BP is quite low (10.2/5.9 or lower), heart rate is high. I still feel hypo symptoms (like dry eyes, back pain, and, of course, depresion, etc). Basal temps are changing quite a bit but I can't say much about daily average temps because I haven't been cheking regularly lately. I feel even less resistant to stress now than before I started any treatment... It is really hot weather now where I live, 36/37 C and I am having a very bad time coping with that, my legs hurt and just can't face life right now... So, I guess everything should be O.K. now, except T3 dose or adrenals. But I have been trying going up and down both with cortisol and T3 and I can't find any clear improvements. > > >I think that one of the things that is making me feel so low is the thought that things are not working and, who knows, may never work. This though is dragging me down. > > If you are not feeling the effect of small changes then the chances > are that you are a fair way away from the sweet spot. > > The FT3 lab looks reasonable, this tends to suggest that Cortisol, > Aldosterone, electrolytes, vitamin D, or vitamin B12 might be > involved. > > Adverse effects increasing T3 are often cortisol or ferritin related > and cortisol in particular can lead to a drop in temperature after > taking T3. > > Has anything shown from previous labs?? > > Nick > > -- > > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to > > www.thyroid-rt3.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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